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Re: [GMCnet] What has left you stranded on the side of the road [message #239287 is a reply to message #239281] Sun, 09 February 2014 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeh.  Locally called '305' presumably for outdoing Ford.  According to both pit crews in '68 at Sebring (Penske and Grant, I believe, it's been a long time) the ford product produced somewhat more power due to the port design of the heads - 'Tunnel Port'.  Donohue produced better lap tim,es though and won the Trans-Am.
 
--johnny


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Beg to differ but 1967-69 Z28's had 302's I had one still kicking myself these were basically a 327 with a 283 crank and were well under rated in horsepower to make trans am rules at the time.

k2gkk wrote on Sun, 09 February 2014 11:19
> Ford has 302, Chev had 305
>
> Mac in OKC
> Money Pit
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 9, 2014, at 10:10, "Johnny Bridges" <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Was not the Z28 a sales version of the COPO cars coded Z280 which got you (if your name was Donahue) a trans-am racer?  All discs, 305 CID screamer, bench seats, no insulation, etc.  We flew down to Sebring in '68 and watched (I believe) Donahue beat George Follmer in a Mustang.  The tunnel port car had substantial power on the Chev, and easily went past it on the back straight, but didn't stick nearly as well and lost it back in the crookeds. 
> .
> .  A 1955 Z28??  1967 seems about the year I remember for the Z28 302 I believe but I'm not a hardcore Chevy guy.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] What has left you stranded on the side of the road [message #239289 is a reply to message #239280] Sun, 09 February 2014 10:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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I believe that the original 1976 Camaro was equipped with a 327 cubic inch
2 main bearing engine. When you ordered the copo option #Z-28, you got the
high performance Chev truck 327 with a 283 forged crankshaft, a special
Duntov cam and liters that were mechanical. .030/.030 lash. Also included
an aluminum high rise intake, headers, different sized alternator pulley,
corvette brake parts, heavy duty u joints, The engine block, borrowed from
the truck division was a special 4 bolt main bearing piece. This
combination with a stock bore was listed as a 302 cubic inch. I became
familiar with that combo because that was what we did with our C gasser.
Engine would rev until something broke. Advertised horsepower was 295 at
3200 rpm. If you turned it to 7500 which it would easily do, it made in
excess of 500 hp. in good race tune. A real factory hot rod for sure. In 68
they refined it with light weight hood and grill and bumpers, and if you
had the right connections at the factory, you could get the "special"
editions that the sports car guys ordered with the quick steering, huge
brakes, etc. They had special options for the drag racers too. All gone by
1969, when the big block cars emerged. Great drag cars, but they would not
stop or turn like the small block cars. This was the year that Mary asked
the question, "Do you want to keep racing, or do you want to be married?"
We stayed married for 50 years. I made the right choice. Both of my
brothers are at Pomona at the Winternationals. They went over to the dark
side and race special mustang cobra factory racers. Man those things are
fast and quick. 156 mph in 8.53 sec. Faster than we went with our C Gasser
for sure. Long time ago. Still miss it and her too.
Jim Hupy
Salem,Or
78 GMC Royale 403
On Feb 9, 2014 8:19 AM, "D C _Mac_ Macdonald" <k2gkk@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Ford has 302, Chev had 305
>
> Mac in OKC
> Money Pit
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 9, 2014, at 10:10, "Johnny Bridges" <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Was not the Z28 a sales version of the COPO cars coded Z280 which got you
> (if your name was Donahue) a trans-am racer? All discs, 305 CID screamer,
> bench seats, no insulation, etc. We flew down to Sebring in '68 and
> watched (I believe) Donahue beat George Follmer in a Mustang. The tunnel
> port car had substantial power on the Chev, and easily went past it on the
> back straight, but didn't stick nearly as well and lost it back in the
> crookeds.
> .
> . A 1955 Z28?? 1967 seems about the year I remember for the Z28 302 I
> believe but I'm not a hardcore Chevy guy.
>
> --johnny
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Re: [GMCnet] What has left you stranded on the side of the road [message #239291 is a reply to message #239274] Sun, 09 February 2014 11:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gcbgold is currently offline  gcbgold   United States
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I experienced ignition switch failure in our coach. I was very lucky it happened when we were going to leave Gene Fisher's place. He just goes out to his shop and finds a push button switch and had me going in no time. I foolishly did not replace the ignition switch for a while and then had it lock up in the on position with the coach running. I have a mechanical fuel pump so I just pinched the rubber fuel line and the coach soon shut off. I took a pair of plies and twisted the switch until the key would turn on an off again.

I ended up pulling the steering column because of other issues and boy was I glad I did. I took it to steering column rebuilder and he found multiple problems.

I had rebuilt the front end of coach several years ago, but still had a slight wander problem. What I found out was the snap ring in the plastic ball inside the column had one ear pop out of its groove. It then started rubbing metal to metal putting a groove into the top steering shaft causing looseness in the column. That caused the coach to have a minor wander problem. There were other problems in the column besides the ignition switch, bad bearing, and tilt mechanism. Works like brand new now. No minor wander problem anymore either!

Anyone looking to have their column rebuilt I would recommend Steering Column Unlimited in Hayward, CA. The owner is very friendly and knowledgeable. He took the time to describe in great detail the different parts that can fail and showed me examples. He also gave me all the old broken parts from my column so I could see what failed in mine . $200 labor plus whatever parts are needed. I have no affiliation with this company.

Gary Bovee
Red Bluff, CA
1978 Royale
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Re: What has left you stranded on the side of the road [message #239296 is a reply to message #197434] Sun, 09 February 2014 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
roy1 is currently offline  roy1   United States
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It would be hard to top Emery's fun memorys and I doubt many could. In the 70,000 miles I've had mine( 27 years)I had to have it towed once about 3 years ago due to a mistake on my part. I spun #8 rod bearing due to over revving the engine. Fortunately it happened 30 miles from home and I had it towed to my garage (under my house) where I removed and rebuilt the engine. Once I cracked the left cylinder head due to an exhaust seat that was done wrong at a head shop. I replaced the head in a camp ground in a few days. I had the pick up coil go bad in the HEI distributor another time. I installed my spare distributor on the side of the road. I have replaced the distributor module on the side of the road another time.. I had the ignition coil go out just as I was starting up the notorious California grape vine that was real scary trying to figure out what was wrong with my wife crying and screaming we would be killed as I was tight to the guardrail with semi trucks rocking the motor home as they passed inches away but I had the needed spare coil on board.it was the longest 1/2 hour of my life. When I built my 1st engine back in 1987 I didn't get the transmission in right so it wiped out the front pump in around 20 miles ,I barely made it back to my driveway. I called my brother to come over we pulled the trans and rebuilt it in my drive way. Another time a Champion spark plugs porcelain blew off the #4 cylinder and dropped part of it into the cylinder messing up the intake valve I had to climb 3 8000 ft mountain passes in the California Sierra Nevada towing a Toyota pickup running on 7 cylinders to get home my wife didn't feel comfortable driving the pickup in the mountain. I was down to 5 miles an hour in 1st gear going over Conway summit. Thanks Jim K for those 3:70 gears. So I agree with Emery and Jim H lots or spare parts and the necessary tools are a good thing when you live and travel in the western outback.
The only 305 Chevy I am aware of came out around 1973 to replace the dirty 307 engine.. Both were good engines.


Roy Keen Minden,NV 76 X Glenbrook
Re: [GMCnet] What has left you stranded on the side of the road [message #239299 is a reply to message #239289] Sun, 09 February 2014 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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James Hupy wrote on Sun, 09 February 2014 10:58

I believe that the original 1976 Camaro was equipped with a 327 cubic inch
2 main bearing engine. When you ordered the copo option #Z-28, you got the
high performance Chev truck 327 with a 283 forged crankshaft, a special
Duntov cam and liters that were mechanical. .030/.030 lash. Also included
an aluminum high rise intake, headers, different sized alternator pulley,
corvette brake parts, heavy duty u joints, The engine block, borrowed from
the truck division was a special 4 bolt main bearing piece. This
combination with a stock bore was listed as a 302 cubic inch. I became
familiar with that combo because that was what we did with our C gasser.
Engine would rev until something broke. Advertised horsepower was 295 at
3200 rpm. If you turned it to 7500 which it would easily do, it made in
excess of 500 hp. in good race tune. A real factory hot rod for sure. In 68
they refined it with light weight hood and grill and bumpers, and if you
had the right connections at the factory, you could get the "special"
editions that the sports car guys ordered with the quick steering, huge
brakes, etc. They had special options for the drag racers too. All gone by
1969, when the big block cars emerged. Great drag cars, but they would not
stop or turn like the small block cars. This was the year that Mary asked
the question, "Do you want to keep racing, or do you want to be married?"
We stayed married for 50 years. I made the right choice. Both of my
brothers are at Pomona at the Winternationals. They went over to the dark
side and race special mustang cobra factory racers. Man those things are
fast and quick. 156 mph in 8.53 sec. Faster than we went with our C Gasser
for sure. Long time ago. Still miss it and her too.
Jim Hupy
Salem,Or
78 GMC Royale 403



I worked at a Hot Rod shop....a place called " The High Performance Center" located in Milwaukee Wi. I did all of the balancing and a lot of short block assembly for them over a 1 1/2 yr. period. I balanced everything including the Chevy HP302, BB Chevys, Pontiac, Olds, Buick, Ford big and small block....etc...etc. Of all of the engines that I balanced, the Chevy 302 very rarely needed additional work to balance. Factory balance was...in every case...very close or right on. Worst was Pontiac followed by Olds.

I left that job because it was part time. My full time job was Teaching industrial arts at one of the public schools. The High Performance Center's motto was "We sell Speed". Sixteen months after I started there, I found out that automotive "Speed" wasn't the only "Speed" that they were selling. They were also selling the narcotic speed and other drugs out of the back room right next to me. I was young then..never saw it. I could just see the place getting raided and my teaching license going up in smoke, so I quit. Two months later, the place got raided and took everyone out in handcuffs. I dodged a bullet there.


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: [GMCnet] What has left you stranded on the side of the road [message #239309 is a reply to message #239289] Sun, 09 February 2014 15:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim,

One slight correction. The Z-28 motor was actually the Corvette 365 HP
327 with the 283 crank and appropriate pistons. Everything else was
pretty much the same.
I was selling parts in the Chevy dealership, so I didn't have any money,
but I sure did love playing with the racers Oddly, all my friends from
those days are all gone. Nothing left but memories.

Gary Kosier
77 PB w/500 Cad
Newark, Oh

-----Original Message-----
From: James Hupy
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 11:58 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] What has left you stranded on the side of the road

I believe that the original 1976 Camaro was equipped with a 327 cubic inch
2 main bearing engine. When you ordered the copo option #Z-28, you got the
high performance Chev truck 327 with a 283 forged crankshaft, a special
Duntov cam and liters that were mechanical. .030/.030 lash. Also included
an aluminum high rise intake, headers, different sized alternator pulley,
corvette brake parts, heavy duty u joints, The engine block, borrowed from
the truck division was a special 4 bolt main bearing piece. This
combination with a stock bore was listed as a 302 cubic inch. I became
familiar with that combo because that was what we did with our C gasser.
Engine would rev until something broke. Advertised horsepower was 295 at
3200 rpm. If you turned it to 7500 which it would easily do, it made in
excess of 500 hp. in good race tune. A real factory hot rod for sure. In 68
they refined it with light weight hood and grill and bumpers, and if you
had the right connections at the factory, you could get the "special"
editions that the sports car guys ordered with the quick steering, huge
brakes, etc. They had special options for the drag racers too. All gone by
1969, when the big block cars emerged. Great drag cars, but they would not
stop or turn like the small block cars. This was the year that Mary asked
the question, "Do you want to keep racing, or do you want to be married?"
We stayed married for 50 years. I made the right choice. Both of my
brothers are at Pomona at the Winternationals. They went over to the dark
side and race special mustang cobra factory racers. Man those things are
fast and quick. 156 mph in 8.53 sec. Faster than we went with our C Gasser
for sure. Long time ago. Still miss it and her too.
Jim Hupy
Salem,Or
78 GMC Royale 403
On Feb 9, 2014 8:19 AM, "D C _Mac_ Macdonald" <k2gkk@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Ford has 302, Chev had 305
>
> Mac in OKC
> Money Pit
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 9, 2014, at 10:10, "Johnny Bridges" <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Was not the Z28 a sales version of the COPO cars coded Z280 which got you
> (if your name was Donahue) a trans-am racer? All discs, 305 CID screamer,
> bench seats, no insulation, etc. We flew down to Sebring in '68 and
> watched (I believe) Donahue beat George Follmer in a Mustang. The tunnel
> port car had substantial power on the Chev, and easily went past it on the
> back straight, but didn't stick nearly as well and lost it back in the
> crookeds.
> .
> . A 1955 Z28?? 1967 seems about the year I remember for the Z28 302 I
> believe but I'm not a hardcore Chevy guy.
>
> --johnny
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Re: [GMCnet] What has left you stranded on the side of the road [message #239315 is a reply to message #239309] Sun, 09 February 2014 15:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why y'all want to scare all of these new guys? No way I would ever mention the two times I blew engines 2,000 miles from home. Laughing
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] What has left you stranded on the side of the road [message #239318 is a reply to message #239309] Sun, 09 February 2014 16:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary, we took the 365hp 327cu in engines as a starting point. Needed the
283 crank to make the right displacement for the NHRA class that we were
running which was C gas normally aspirated. Started out with a stock GM
fuel injection, then modified the air horn assembly by sawing it in two and
enlarging the port runners and reshaping and matching it to the heads. Lot
of work for almost no gain in HP. Switched to Hilborn injection and vertex
magneto to get away from the cable drive from the distributor to the fuel
injection. Twisted off several drives and never was able to solve that so
the Hilborn replaced it. Once I learned how to tune the Hilborn system it
was a bit easier. Threw away the Duntov 30/30 and had Ed Iskendarian grind
a roller tappet camshaft that he later marketed as the 505 super LeGuerra
cam. All Isky valve gear, including the rev kit that featured the extra
valve springs in the engine valley. Complicated, but no more valve float at
9700 rpm. Boy would that thing honk. 2997 pounds, don't have any idea how
much horsepower it made but it was a lot for the day. Tube chassis with a
39 chev body. 25% engine setback. Door slammer, full cage roll bar, chev 4
speed, Parham Quick Change rear end. No end to the amount of rent money you
could spend on that thing. I never did own a Z-28, but lusted after them.
1969 and then 1970 EPA and Insurance rates through the roof kinda killed
the factory hot rods. But, it is good to remember now and then. Oh, I could
be kinda fuzzy memory wise, but Woody, the parts tech at Capitol Chev
always told me that Chevrolet made some mighty fast trucks well into the
80's. Last time I heard anything about him, he was a NHRA Tech Inspector on
the West Coast. You are right, most of us are long gone now.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403


On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Kosier <gkosier@roadrunner.com> wrote:

> Jim,
>
> One slight correction. The Z-28 motor was actually the Corvette 365 HP
> 327 with the 283 crank and appropriate pistons. Everything else was
> pretty much the same.
> I was selling parts in the Chevy dealership, so I didn't have any money,
> but I sure did love playing with the racers Oddly, all my friends from
> those days are all gone. Nothing left but memories.
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77 PB w/500 Cad
> Newark, Oh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Hupy
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 11:58 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] What has left you stranded on the side of the road
>
> I believe that the original 1976 Camaro was equipped with a 327 cubic inch
> 2 main bearing engine. When you ordered the copo option #Z-28, you got the
> high performance Chev truck 327 with a 283 forged crankshaft, a special
> Duntov cam and liters that were mechanical. .030/.030 lash. Also included
> an aluminum high rise intake, headers, different sized alternator pulley,
> corvette brake parts, heavy duty u joints, The engine block, borrowed from
> the truck division was a special 4 bolt main bearing piece. This
> combination with a stock bore was listed as a 302 cubic inch. I became
> familiar with that combo because that was what we did with our C gasser.
> Engine would rev until something broke. Advertised horsepower was 295 at
> 3200 rpm. If you turned it to 7500 which it would easily do, it made in
> excess of 500 hp. in good race tune. A real factory hot rod for sure. In 68
> they refined it with light weight hood and grill and bumpers, and if you
> had the right connections at the factory, you could get the "special"
> editions that the sports car guys ordered with the quick steering, huge
> brakes, etc. They had special options for the drag racers too. All gone by
> 1969, when the big block cars emerged. Great drag cars, but they would not
> stop or turn like the small block cars. This was the year that Mary asked
> the question, "Do you want to keep racing, or do you want to be married?"
> We stayed married for 50 years. I made the right choice. Both of my
> brothers are at Pomona at the Winternationals. They went over to the dark
> side and race special mustang cobra factory racers. Man those things are
> fast and quick. 156 mph in 8.53 sec. Faster than we went with our C Gasser
> for sure. Long time ago. Still miss it and her too.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem,Or
> 78 GMC Royale 403
> On Feb 9, 2014 8:19 AM, "D C _Mac_ Macdonald" <k2gkk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ford has 302, Chev had 305
> >
> > Mac in OKC
> > Money Pit
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Feb 9, 2014, at 10:10, "Johnny Bridges" <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Was not the Z28 a sales version of the COPO cars coded Z280 which got you
> > (if your name was Donahue) a trans-am racer? All discs, 305 CID
> screamer,
> > bench seats, no insulation, etc. We flew down to Sebring in '68 and
> > watched (I believe) Donahue beat George Follmer in a Mustang. The tunnel
> > port car had substantial power on the Chev, and easily went past it on
> the
> > back straight, but didn't stick nearly as well and lost it back in the
> > crookeds.
> > .
> > . A 1955 Z28?? 1967 seems about the year I remember for the Z28 302 I
> > believe but I'm not a hardcore Chevy guy.
> >
> > --johnny
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Re: What has left you stranded on the side of the road [message #239356 is a reply to message #197434] Sun, 09 February 2014 22:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ultravan Owners is currently offline  Ultravan Owners   Canada
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I think one can end up planning for that possible break down(s) that they never truly enjoy the time - trips. And some might even talk them selves out of RVing altogether.

Keep your PM schedule up to date.
Plan for what might be the norm in the way of break downs and not too costly to carry as inventory.

Carry things like an extra fuel filter(s), belts, hose clamps, cap, rotor, and whatnot.

Other wise there are part stores and mechanics nation wide - go enjoy yourself and deal with whatever happens when it does.

It is just another part of RVing. Heck, do you think they were so worried about losing a wheel or even a horse back in the day of covered wagons. Smile

Or as Wilma and Betty would say - Charrrrrrge it!
(Just make sure you have that plastic when you travel.) Laughing


Tony (Ontario Canada)
Marie and I are blessed to have had a 2nd chance to buy our farm.
Still hoping and more importantly praying to be able to build a garage.
Our 1970 Ultravan #520 has an Olds Toronado 455 in back.

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Re: What has left you stranded on the side of the road [message #239368 is a reply to message #239356] Mon, 10 February 2014 03:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Loffen is currently offline  Loffen   Norway
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Old fuel lines, had 10 or more stops on the first trip with my GMC, used 15 hours on a distance that normally would take 4 hours.

My last brakedown was just before christmas with my suburban, broken oil pump gears in the transmission, I have never seen that before..


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Re: [GMCnet] What has left you stranded on the side of the road [message #239390 is a reply to message #239255] Mon, 10 February 2014 10:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ray Erspamer is currently offline  Ray Erspamer   United States
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Ran out of gas ONCE!
Went to leave a campground after a vacation, engine would not start, switched out the distributor and away we went.
Fried my final drive......we won't talk about this one !!!  I obviously ate a bowl of STUPID for breakfast THAT morning !




 
Ray
78 Royale - "The Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
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Rob,How do you say? "Good On Ya! Once on a long trip in my 68 Eldo NY to Ft. Lauderdale,in the middle of Georgia,speedo goes to 0 and the car shifted down to second and then locked up totally.Spent 1200 on a new rebuilt tranny,only to find out later it was a $10 nylon on the governor.I carry a spare in the car and will transfer it into the coach next trip!!!!!
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Re: [GMCnet] What has left you stranded on the side of the road [message #239427 is a reply to message #239390] Mon, 10 February 2014 14:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Ray Erspamer wrote on Mon, 10 February 2014 10:13

Ran out of gas ONCE!
Went to leave a campground after a vacation, engine would not start, switched out the distributor and away we went.
Fried my final drive......we won't talk about this one !!!  I obviously ate a bowl of stupid.


 
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A spare distributor takes up very little room. I had to rob the cap off mine one day out on 101.
BUT, I refuse to Carry a spare final drive. Very Happy Laughing Very Happy

Dan


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I could add one other notable failure.

Leaving Cayucos (just north of Morrow Bay) on a Sunday, blew the high side power steering hose. Miguel got a hold of Jim K WHO TOLD ME HIS SHOP WAS TWO HOURS AWAY and he had a used hose. Took out the big Harley from the trailer, rode 4 hours to Jim's shop, 4 hours back, changed the hose and drove home that night.


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Hey Ray,

Looks like Dan IS feeling better! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Gregg

A spare distributor takes up very little room. I had to rob the cap off mine one day out on 101.
BUT, I refuse to Carry a spare final drive. :d :lol: :d

Dan

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Neil wrote on Mon, 10 February 2014 14:53

I could add one other notable failure.

Leaving Cayucos (just north of Morrow Bay) on a Sunday, blew the high side power steering hose. Miguel got a hold of Jim K WHO TOLD ME HIS SHOP WAS TWO HOURS AWAY and he had a used hose. Took out the big Harley from the trailer, rode 4 hours to Jim's shop, 4 hours back, changed the hose and drove home that night.


I'll bet Jim could have done it in 4 hours round trip.
Ask him.


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WD0AFQ wrote on Mon, 10 February 2014 14:17



A spare distributor takes up very little room. I had to rob the cap off mine one day out on 101.
BUT, I refuse to Carry a spare final drive. Very Happy Laughing Very Happy

Dan

Is that because your spare engine took up all of the storage space?

Bert and Faye showed up at a rally with their spare engine under the table. I brought a Manny trans home and some wheels for Chuck Boyd that way.

I did later loose a radiator for Chuck that took about a year to make it to 10C. The engine made it there but the radiator took up residence in my hangar.

Just shove that engine over to the side a bit and a final drive should easily fit.


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Ouchhhhhhhhh, I felt that jab on the final drive Dan !



 
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Ray Erspamer wrote on Mon, 10 February 2014 10:13
> Ran out of gas ONCE!
> Went to leave a campground after a vacation, engine would not start, switched out the distributor and away we went.
> Fried my final drive......we won't talk about this one !!!  I obviously ate a bowl of stupid.
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A spare distributor takes up very little room. I had to rob the cap off mine one day out on 101.
BUT, I refuse to Carry a spare final drive. :d  :lol:  :d

Dan
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Ignition two times in 5.5 years.

First time it was a Springfield Ignition module. I had a spare and had it changed out and on the way in less than 10 minutes.

Second time, exact same symptoms, more dangerous position (on a freeway overpass in Phoenix). After getting pushed over the overpass by a highway patrolman, and getting safely parked, I figured out that the new MSD ignition control box had failed. I had the old module and harness under the seat and was able to re-install it back to the stock configuration and get going again.

I removed the MSD box, sent it to them in El Paso for repair, received it back from them in a few weeks, reinstalled it, and haven't had a problem since.


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For those of you with 16.5's.I carry a loose tire extra besides my mounted spare,so If I get a flat I have a tire to mout and still have a spare.

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This thread has been going on so long that some of us have commented at least twice. I just read through it again. Let's close it now. I am tired. We now know every way a GMC can leave us on the side of the road.
Dan


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