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Re: [GMCnet] So it begins... [message #169249 is a reply to message #169247] Fri, 11 May 2012 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sean is currently offline  Sean   United States
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On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Sean <wsfulmer@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Managed to get it running again and crept back into town at 15-20mph. Fuel filters (also just replaced) were both full of sludge, so I'm having them drop the tanks, flush the entire fuel system, fix my fuel level gauges, and whatever else is needed to get the coach running reliably.

On that subject, is there anything else that I should consider having
done while the tanks are down?

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Re: [GMCnet] So it begins... [message #169251 is a reply to message #169249] Fri, 11 May 2012 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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While the tanks are down all of the rubber hoses should be replaced with the newer rubber that stands up to ethanol. Someone else here on the net should have the hose designation.

Another thing that you could do would be to replace the rubber hoses on the top of the tanks with steel lines that lead to the sides of the tank so that it would be easy to replace rubber hoses connected to the steel lines in the future without having to drop the tanks. You connect the steel hoses by cutting off the small flared ends of the pickups and use a brass compression connector to fasten the steel lines to the pickups.

Emery Stora

On May 11, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Sean F wrote:

> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Sean <wsfulmer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Managed to get it running again and crept back into town at 15-20mph. Fuel filters (also just replaced) were both full of sludge, so I'm having them drop the tanks, flush the entire fuel system, fix my fuel level gauges, and whatever else is needed to get the coach running reliably.
>
> On that subject, is there anything else that I should consider having
> done while the tanks are down?
>
> --
> Sean
> 1973 260 Painted Desert
> Luna County, NM
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Re: [GMCnet] So it begins... [message #169261 is a reply to message #169251] Fri, 11 May 2012 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
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Sean,

You want to use the SAEJ30R9 Barrier hose for all your fuel lines. It
is listed as a fuel injection hose and it has a liner that is
impervious to the newer fuels today. It is made by both Goodyear,
Dayco and Gates among others.

http://www.goodyearep.com/productsdetail.aspx?id=5144

<http://www.daycoproducts.com/daycoweb.nsf/cf652a4feb630ad0862571a4005ae40c/1f110345eb637790862571aa006e7b5c!OpenDocument
>

Do not let your Mechanic substitute an SAEJ30R7 because he says it is
just as good and cheaper. You will be changing it out in a few
years. The R9 hose will give you much better service.

You could replace the lines on top of the tank with steel tubing and
remove the hose issue there altogether!

Photo site search for fuel tank repairs.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/search.php?searchid=47648

JR Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMC Eastern States
GMCMHI
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan

On May 11, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Emery Stora wrote:

> While the tanks are down all of the rubber hoses should be replaced
> with the newer rubber that stands up to ethanol. Someone else here
> on the net should have the hose designation.
>
> Another thing that you could do would be to replace the rubber hoses
> on the top of the tanks with steel lines that lead to the sides of
> the tank so that it would be easy to replace rubber hoses connected
> to the steel lines in the future without having to drop the tanks.
> You connect the steel hoses by cutting off the small flared ends of
> the pickups and use a brass compression connector to fasten the
> steel lines to the pickups.
>
> Emery Stora
>
> On May 11, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Sean F wrote:
>
>> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Sean <wsfulmer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Managed to get it running again and crept back into town at
>>> 15-20mph. Fuel filters (also just replaced) were both full of
>>> sludge, so I'm having them drop the tanks, flush the entire fuel
>>> system, fix my fuel level gauges, and whatever else is needed to
>>> get the coach running reliably.
>>
>> On that subject, is there anything else that I should consider having
>> done while the tanks are down?
>>
>> --
>> Sean
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Re: [GMCnet] So it begins... [message #169286 is a reply to message #169261] Fri, 11 May 2012 17:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Emery, John - thanks for the advice! Passed that along to the mechanic :)
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Re: [GMCnet] So it begins... [message #169288 is a reply to message #169286] Fri, 11 May 2012 17:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sean

forgot to tell you to use pieces of 3/8" steel brake tubing that you can buy at any autoparts store in various lengths.

Emery Stora

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> Emery, John - thanks for the advice! Passed that along to the mechanic :)
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Re: [GMCnet] So it begins... [message #169301 is a reply to message #164345] Fri, 11 May 2012 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sean, If it was my coach that got towed, I think I would be VERY upset at the tow truck driver. From what you said about following the coach while it was being towed, it sounded like it was towed on the rear wheels. I thought it was a rear that was smoking ? Yes I know you probably CANNOT and should not tow a GMC MH backwards with the front wheels on the ground. I would have thought the tow truck driver would have said you needed a low boy flat bed trailer to take your coach to the repair garage.
I wondered who would have paid for the repiar if the wheel had come off due to the bad bearing or snapped off the spindle ??

DAVE KING


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Re: [GMCnet] So it begins... [message #169305 is a reply to message #169301] Fri, 11 May 2012 20:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Dave King <kingd@sympatico.ca> wrote:
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> Sean, If it was my coach that got towed, I think I would be VERY upset at the tow truck driver. From what you said about following the coach while it was being towed, it sounded like it was towed on the rear wheels. I thought it was a rear that was smoking ? Yes I know you probably CANNOT and should not tow a GMC MH backwards with the front wheels on the ground. I would have thought the tow truck driver would have said you needed a low boy flat bed trailer to take your coach to the repair garage.
> I wondered who would have paid for the repiar if the wheel had come off due to the bad bearing or snapped off the spindle ??

Dave - I discussed that with the tow truck driver before he hooked up.
I think at that point, most of the damage had already been done.
Flatbed wasn't available, but the tow was less than a mile, so we took
it nice and slow, towing rear-down, and made it to the shop without
letting out too much extra smoke.

Sure, if a wheel fell off I would have raised all kinds of hell, but
it was my call, and it turned out OK in the end :)
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Re: [GMCnet] So it begins... [message #169308 is a reply to message #169301] Fri, 11 May 2012 20:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,

FYI

http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Mueller_GMC-Towing-Guide.pdf

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave King

Sean, If it was my coach that got towed, I think I would be VERY upset at
the tow truck driver. From what you said about following the coach while it
was being towed, it sounded like it was towed on the rear wheels. I thought
it was a rear that was smoking ? Yes I know you probably CANNOT and should
not tow a GMC MH backwards with the front wheels on the ground. I would have
thought the tow truck driver would have said you needed a low boy flat bed
trailer to take your coach to the repair garage.
I wondered who would have paid for the repiar if the wheel had come off due
to the bad bearing or snapped off the spindle ??

DAVE

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Re: [GMCnet] So it begins... [message #169339 is a reply to message #169247] Sat, 12 May 2012 09:44 Go to previous message
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As long as the tanks are off, cosider replacing the hoses with alcohol - proof ones if it hasn't already been done.  The labor is mostly in removing the tanks, which you're doing anyway.
 
--johnny
 
'76 23' transmiode norris
'76 palm beach
 

From: Sean <wsfulmer@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] So it begins...



Almost two months later, I got a call that my coach is finally repaired! (delay was due to a family emergency for one of the mechanics)

The brake issue turned out to be a bad master cylinder. The smoking wheel was caused by a disintegrated bearing.

That's all fixed, so I picked the coach up at the shop a couple of hours ago and started driving home, but it sputtered, lost power, and died about 5 miles into the trip.

Managed to get it running again and crept back into town at 15-20mph. Fuel filters (also just replaced) were both full of sludge, so I'm having them drop the tanks, flush the entire fuel system, fix my fuel level gauges, and whatever else is needed to get the coach running reliably.

I was really looking forward to having my coach back - hopefully this next round of repairs won't take so long, and I'll be able to get it back home and start working on stuff myself :)
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