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| Re: [GMCnet] Reviving the Cad 500 [message #163311 is a reply to message #163309] |
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ljdavick
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Ken,
I'll bet I speak for others when I say how much I enjoy your posts. The way you clearly convey your thought process and discoveries leads us all along with you. Like a great mystery novel we know the hero will win in the end, though some chapters may leave us wondering...
I'm guessing the private correspondence between you and Stick must be publish worthy. We're lucky to have so many really good writers here, but even luckier still to have all us others who are so willing to share! Some people's writing is a mystery, but we usually know what our friend Jim means ;-)
Thanks for sharing.
Larry Davick
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 17, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Ken,
>
> You've warmed the cockles of my heart (whatever the heck that means!).
> Now I don't feel nearly as bad about my week with all it's
> defugalties.
>
> Today went a little better:
>
> I tackled the shorted VSS. Turns out, I'd had to work on it once
> before. There are 3 leads (+12VDC, Gnd, Output) coming out of a small
> molded plastic housing which contains the Hall Effect sensor and
> whatever other circuitry. Those wires have VERY heat sensitive
> insulation and are of larger than necessary gauge. When I worked on
> it before, the length of the accessible wires was left at about 5/16".
> There is no residual insulation on any one of the 3 wires -- just one
> glob through which the wires run. I was able to spread the wires 120*
> apart and solder new long leads to them without creating a new short
> -- at least for now. Then I covered the whole mess with Shoe Goop
> (Yes, that's what I said -- it's good stuff for lots of things and
> sets up fast). Then put a couple of layers of shrink tube over each
> wire, extending down into the Goop. Finally, several layers of shrink
> tube over all 3 wires and the exposed portion of the housing. MAYBE
> it will hold up down there under the exhaust manifold. Or maybe I'll
> soon re-install a short speedometer cable to position the VSS in a
> cooler area.
>
> For the first time, I disassembled the whole VSS. Its housing
> consists of two shells sealed with a gasket and held together with 4
> machine screws. In one half is a wheel containing magnets oriented
> perpendicular to the above mentioned sealed module. As one pole of a
> magnet passes the Hall Effect sensor, the output line is Set. When a
> pole of the opposite polarity passes, the output line is Reset. So,
> the establishment of the "2-pulse" or "4-pulse" or other rating is
> determined by the number of magnets in the molded magnet wheel -- sort
> of like the Pertronix ignition modules. It's easy to test -- don't
> need the 'scope or rotary driver I've used in the past: Just supply
> power and monitor the output with an analog meter -- or possibly a
> test lamp or LED.
>
> Another good event today: I installed the E8094 fuel pump. 17psi max
> vs the 125 psi max E8228. I'd expected to have to touch up the
> regulator setting. Nope. It runs just fine as-is. During a
> subsequent test drive, I even did a full-throttle hill climb which
> called for 96% injector duty cycle -- no sign of any starvation. I'm
> happy.
>
> We'll be making a 200 mile test run tomorrow for Jerry Holloway's
> birthday party. If all goes well, we'll head for Shawnee on Tuesday
> AM.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Ken Burton wrote:
>>
>>
>> It is always something extra going wrong.
>>
>> I went out today to replace the engine battery in my airplane and take a flight of about 100 miles. It should ave been a 15 minute job. I immediately got stuck working on two chain saws for a friend who showed up unannounced which put me a several hours behind schedule.
> ...
>> So, Do not feel bad Ken. Nothing ever goes right for me either.
>> --
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reviving the Cad 500 [message #163313 is a reply to message #163309] |
Sat, 17 March 2012 20:25 |
Kosier
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Ken, Ken, Ken......
Don't you know all Goop is the same. So, if no one sees your
tube, then
it is definitely Mechanic's Goop. Maybe, you could even claim
Engineer's
Goop. Worth a try!
Gary Kosier
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Henderson" <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Reviving the Cad 500
> Ken,
>
> You've warmed the cockles of my heart (whatever the heck that
> means!).
> Now I don't feel nearly as bad about my week with all it's
> defugalties.
>
> Today went a little better:
>
> I tackled the shorted VSS. Turns out, I'd had to work on it
> once
> before. There are 3 leads (+12VDC, Gnd, Output) coming out of
> a small
> molded plastic housing which contains the Hall Effect sensor
> and
> whatever other circuitry. Those wires have VERY heat sensitive
> insulation and are of larger than necessary gauge. When I
> worked on
> it before, the length of the accessible wires was left at about
> 5/16".
> There is no residual insulation on any one of the 3 wires --
> just one
> glob through which the wires run. I was able to spread the
> wires 120*
> apart and solder new long leads to them without creating a new
> short
> -- at least for now. Then I covered the whole mess with Shoe
> Goop
> (Yes, that's what I said -- it's good stuff for lots of things
> and
> sets up fast). Then put a couple of layers of shrink tube over
> each
> wire, extending down into the Goop. Finally, several layers of
> shrink
> tube over all 3 wires and the exposed portion of the housing.
> MAYBE
> it will hold up down there under the exhaust manifold. Or
> maybe I'll
> soon re-install a short speedometer cable to position the VSS
> in a
> cooler area.
>
> For the first time, I disassembled the whole VSS. Its housing
> consists of two shells sealed with a gasket and held together
> with 4
> machine screws. In one half is a wheel containing magnets
> oriented
> perpendicular to the above mentioned sealed module. As one
> pole of a
> magnet passes the Hall Effect sensor, the output line is Set.
> When a
> pole of the opposite polarity passes, the output line is Reset.
> So,
> the establishment of the "2-pulse" or "4-pulse" or other rating
> is
> determined by the number of magnets in the molded magnet
> wheel -- sort
> of like the Pertronix ignition modules. It's easy to test --
> don't
> need the 'scope or rotary driver I've used in the past: Just
> supply
> power and monitor the output with an analog meter -- or
> possibly a
> test lamp or LED.
>
> Another good event today: I installed the E8094 fuel pump.
> 17psi max
> vs the 125 psi max E8228. I'd expected to have to touch up the
> regulator setting. Nope. It runs just fine as-is. During a
> subsequent test drive, I even did a full-throttle hill climb
> which
> called for 96% injector duty cycle -- no sign of any
> starvation. I'm
> happy.
>
> We'll be making a 200 mile test run tomorrow for Jerry
> Holloway's
> birthday party. If all goes well, we'll head for Shawnee on
> Tuesday
> AM.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Ken Burton wrote:
>>
>>
>> It is always something extra going wrong.
>>
>> I went out today to replace the engine battery in my airplane
>> and take a flight of about 100 miles. Â It should ave been a
>> 15 minute job. Â I immediately got stuck working on two chain
>> saws for a friend who showed up unannounced which put me a
>> several hours behind schedule.
> ...
>> So, Do not feel bad Ken. Â Nothing ever goes right for me
>> either.
>> --
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reviving the Cad 500 [message #163330 is a reply to message #163261] |
Sat, 17 March 2012 22:48 |
Ernest Dankert
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I will offer the root cause for the interior corrosion to be the result of electrical arcing causing nitrous oxides and the formation of nitric acid with moisture.
1977 Eleganza II
Ogden NY
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reviving the Cad 500 [message #163351 is a reply to message #163313] |
Sun, 18 March 2012 07:44 |
Ken Henderson
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Gary,
If my Mechanic's Goop stands up as well on the VSS as it does on the
soles of the Medicare shoes I wear in the shop, all will be well. :-)
Ken H.
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Kosier wrote:
> Ken, Ken, Ken......
>
> Don't you know all Goop is the same. Â So, if no one sees your
> tube, then
> it is definitely Mechanic's Goop. Â Maybe, you could even claim
> Engineer's
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reviving the Cad 500 [message #163352 is a reply to message #163311] |
Sun, 18 March 2012 07:49 |
Ken Henderson
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Larry,
Thanks for the kind words and encouragement. My purpose in post all
this stuff is to hopefully same someone some of the agony I seem to be
so adept at finding.
You'd be surprised how curt the notes between Stick and me are. Since
we live about 3 miles apart, we save the verbosity for oral.
Maybe someday I'll master Ornamentalese and won't have to waste so
many electrons to tell my tales.
Ken H.
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Larry Davick wrote:
> Ken,
>
> I'll bet I speak for others when I say how much I enjoy your posts...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reviving the Cad 500 [message #163441 is a reply to message #163354] |
Sun, 18 March 2012 20:31 |
Ken Henderson
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Today was not a good day. I don't even want to think about it, much
less write about it. But in the interest of completeness, I'll try
to write it up rationally -- then retire to pout.
We cranked-'er-up this morning and scooted the <90 miles up to Griffin
to old man Jerry Holloway's birthday party (he's REALLY old -- 5 days
older'n me!). The coach ran great. SHE kept commenting on how much
quieter it ran (mostly because of the exhaust repairs I did). Smooth
as silk except for slightly rough idle, which I haven't yet attempted
to correct.
The party was great; finally got to meet Jerry & Audrey's great family
and some other friends. Had a wonderful buffet lunch at the
Barnstormer Grille, at a small airport where the party was held.
The afternoon trip home was uneventful. Even with the full stomach, I
managed to stay awake all the way.
I put HER off at the auto driveway and took the GMC to the other drive
which leads to its home. As soon as I'd swapped the party clothes for
work clothes, I drained the oil and pulled the filter I installed
after the first 75 miles or so. This now had about 250 miles on it.
I expected this to be the final change before we leave for Shawnee on
Tuesday.
The oil was darker than I expected after so few miles -- quite black.
Then I cut the filter open. Wow! The entire inside of the can
adjacent to the two FilterMags I had attached was covered in black
fuzz! I should have stopped right there and made photos, but I didn't
-- I just had to stick my fingers in there and feel that stuff. Very
smooth and VERY black. And lots of it -- more like after 5000+++
miles.
Then I looked at the thin film of oil dumped into the tray where I was
working on the filter. If I'd been panning for gold, I'd have been
excited. Instead, I was depressed -- lots of tiny shiny specks. :-(
Woe is me!
Baffled, desperate, sad, disgruntled, upset,..., all that stuff, I
started trying to figure what to do. Wound up pulling the starter,
flywheel lower cover, and inspection hole cover. Then disconnected
the torque converter from the new flex plate. Sure 'nuff, the TC
slides fore and aft easily about 1/8" -- just like it should, and did
when installed last Sunday -- it didn't push on the crankshaft. But
something did: With a pry bar I made sure the crank end play (0.008"
when assembled) was all taken up toward the rear to verify the TC free
travel. Then I pried from the rear to the front -- Kerplunk! With a
dial indicator on the flex plate, I found that the crankshaft now has
0.062" end play! :-(( That's almost half of the 0.125" I accumulated
in the 11,000 miles before the oil analysis identified the problem
before. And this time it took only about 300 miles!!!
I have no idea WHY. Nor WHAT to do. And I don't want to talk about
it or even think about it for a while. Y'All figure it out; I'm gonna
go pout. Too bad I'm not a drinking man -- I could really do it up
right tonight; me & Ken Murphy could really hang one on!
Oh yeah -- We will NOT be at Shawnee. :-(
Ken H.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reviving the Cad 500 [message #163444 is a reply to message #163441] |
Sun, 18 March 2012 20:51 |
Bob de Kruyff
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""I have no idea WHY. Nor WHAT to do. And I don't want to talk about
it or even think about it for a while. Y'All figure it out; I'm gonna
go pout. Too bad I'm not a drinking man -- I could really do it up
right tonight; me & Ken Murphy could really hang one on!
Oh yeah -- We will NOT be at Shawnee. 
Ken H.
""
Ken, I'm amazed you can even write about it. I'm sure the entire community is feeling your frustration. Thankfully I am a drinking man if that's any help. Many of us will be straining our brain cells trying to figure this out!
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reviving the Cad 500 [message #163448 is a reply to message #163441] |
Sun, 18 March 2012 21:16 |
Kosier
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Ken,
This is truly the curse to end all curses. I've known that sick
feeling.
We manic-depressives just walk out, slamming the door, and don't
go
back in for a long time. It doesn't help, of course.
Well, you've got to find the cause or scrap that motor and start
with
another unit. There's something basically wrong somewhere.
I'll offer any help that I can, of course. Remember, big boys
don't cry!
They get revenge!
Gary Kosier
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Henderson" <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Reviving the Cad 500
> Today was not a good day. I don't even want to think about it,
> much
> less write about it. But in the interest of completeness,
> I'll try
> to write it up rationally -- then retire to pout.
>
> We cranked-'er-up this morning and scooted the <90 miles up to
> Griffin
> to old man Jerry Holloway's birthday party (he's REALLY old --
> 5 days
> older'n me!). The coach ran great. SHE kept commenting on how
> much
> quieter it ran (mostly because of the exhaust repairs I did).
> Smooth
> as silk except for slightly rough idle, which I haven't yet
> attempted
> to correct.
>
> The party was great; finally got to meet Jerry & Audrey's great
> family
> and some other friends. Had a wonderful buffet lunch at the
> Barnstormer Grille, at a small airport where the party was
> held.
>
> The afternoon trip home was uneventful. Even with the full
> stomach, I
> managed to stay awake all the way.
>
> I put HER off at the auto driveway and took the GMC to the
> other drive
> which leads to its home. As soon as I'd swapped the party
> clothes for
> work clothes, I drained the oil and pulled the filter I
> installed
> after the first 75 miles or so. This now had about 250 miles
> on it.
> I expected this to be the final change before we leave for
> Shawnee on
> Tuesday.
>
> The oil was darker than I expected after so few miles -- quite
> black.
>
> Then I cut the filter open. Wow! The entire inside of the can
> adjacent to the two FilterMags I had attached was covered in
> black
> fuzz! I should have stopped right there and made photos, but I
> didn't
> -- I just had to stick my fingers in there and feel that stuff.
> Very
> smooth and VERY black. And lots of it -- more like after
> 5000+++
> miles.
>
> Then I looked at the thin film of oil dumped into the tray
> where I was
> working on the filter. If I'd been panning for gold, I'd have
> been
> excited. Instead, I was depressed -- lots of tiny shiny
> specks. :-(
> Woe is me!
>
> Baffled, desperate, sad, disgruntled, upset,..., all that
> stuff, I
> started trying to figure what to do. Wound up pulling the
> starter,
> flywheel lower cover, and inspection hole cover. Then
> disconnected
> the torque converter from the new flex plate. Sure 'nuff, the
> TC
> slides fore and aft easily about 1/8" -- just like it should,
> and did
> when installed last Sunday -- it didn't push on the crankshaft.
> But
> something did: With a pry bar I made sure the crank end play
> (0.008"
> when assembled) was all taken up toward the rear to verify the
> TC free
> travel. Then I pried from the rear to the front -- Kerplunk!
> With a
> dial indicator on the flex plate, I found that the crankshaft
> now has
> 0.062" end play! :-(( That's almost half of the 0.125" I
> accumulated
> in the 11,000 miles before the oil analysis identified the
> problem
> before. And this time it took only about 300 miles!!!
>
> I have no idea WHY. Nor WHAT to do. And I don't want to talk
> about
> it or even think about it for a while. Y'All figure it out;
> I'm gonna
> go pout. Too bad I'm not a drinking man -- I could really do
> it up
> right tonight; me & Ken Murphy could really hang one on!
>
> Oh yeah -- We will NOT be at Shawnee. :-(
>
> Ken H.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reviving the Cad 500 [message #163459 is a reply to message #163448] |
Sun, 18 March 2012 22:09 |
midlf
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| Kosier wrote on Sun, 18 March 2012 21:16 |
Ken,
This is truly the curse to end all curses. I've known that sick
feeling.
We manic-depressives just walk out, slamming the door, and don't
go
back in for a long time. It doesn't help, of course.
Well, you've got to find the cause or scrap that motor and start
with
another unit. There's something basically wrong somewhere.
I'll offer any help that I can, of course. Remember, big boys
don't cry!
They get revenge!
Gary Kosier
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Geez you guys are scaring me. I just got the 455 pulled out of the front clip and going to take it over to the engine guy this week. Now I've got those thoughts in my mind.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=43254
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=43255
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reviving the Cad 500 [message #163461 is a reply to message #163441] |
Sun, 18 March 2012 22:18 |
Marsh Wilkes
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Hi Ken,
Sure sorry to hear it!
Marsh Wilkes
Perry Florida
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Henderson" <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Reviving the Cad 500
> Today was not a good day. I don't even want to think about it, much
> less write about it. But in the interest of completeness, I'll try
> to write it up rationally -- then retire to pout.
>
> We cranked-'er-up this morning and scooted the <90 miles up to Griffin
> to old man Jerry Holloway's birthday party (he's REALLY old -- 5 days
> older'n me!). The coach ran great. SHE kept commenting on how much
> quieter it ran (mostly because of the exhaust repairs I did). Smooth
> as silk except for slightly rough idle, which I haven't yet attempted
> to correct.
>
> The party was great; finally got to meet Jerry & Audrey's great family
> and some other friends. Had a wonderful buffet lunch at the
> Barnstormer Grille, at a small airport where the party was held.
>
> The afternoon trip home was uneventful. Even with the full stomach, I
> managed to stay awake all the way.
>
> I put HER off at the auto driveway and took the GMC to the other drive
> which leads to its home. As soon as I'd swapped the party clothes for
> work clothes, I drained the oil and pulled the filter I installed
> after the first 75 miles or so. This now had about 250 miles on it.
> I expected this to be the final change before we leave for Shawnee on
> Tuesday.
>
> The oil was darker than I expected after so few miles -- quite black.
>
> Then I cut the filter open. Wow! The entire inside of the can
> adjacent to the two FilterMags I had attached was covered in black
> fuzz! I should have stopped right there and made photos, but I didn't
> -- I just had to stick my fingers in there and feel that stuff. Very
> smooth and VERY black. And lots of it -- more like after 5000+++
> miles.
>
> Then I looked at the thin film of oil dumped into the tray where I was
> working on the filter. If I'd been panning for gold, I'd have been
> excited. Instead, I was depressed -- lots of tiny shiny specks. :-(
> Woe is me!
>
> Baffled, desperate, sad, disgruntled, upset,..., all that stuff, I
> started trying to figure what to do. Wound up pulling the starter,
> flywheel lower cover, and inspection hole cover. Then disconnected
> the torque converter from the new flex plate. Sure 'nuff, the TC
> slides fore and aft easily about 1/8" -- just like it should, and did
> when installed last Sunday -- it didn't push on the crankshaft. But
> something did: With a pry bar I made sure the crank end play (0.008"
> when assembled) was all taken up toward the rear to verify the TC free
> travel. Then I pried from the rear to the front -- Kerplunk! With a
> dial indicator on the flex plate, I found that the crankshaft now has
> 0.062" end play! :-(( That's almost half of the 0.125" I accumulated
> in the 11,000 miles before the oil analysis identified the problem
> before. And this time it took only about 300 miles!!!
>
> I have no idea WHY. Nor WHAT to do. And I don't want to talk about
> it or even think about it for a while. Y'All figure it out; I'm gonna
> go pout. Too bad I'm not a drinking man -- I could really do it up
> right tonight; me & Ken Murphy could really hang one on!
>
> Oh yeah -- We will NOT be at Shawnee. :-(
>
> Ken H.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reviving the Cad 500 [message #163462 is a reply to message #163458] |
Sun, 18 March 2012 22:27 |
James Hupy
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Ken, W.T. Heck is wrong with this picture? .062" endplay in 180 miles.
Doesn't seem possible, but...Dial indicators seldom lie. With all that
metal in the engine, I would not run it until I removed the engine and
completely disassembled it, including the cam gallery plugs as well as all
the oil passages in the rest of the engine. I know that you are thorough
and careful, but did you clean the drilled passages in the crankshaft
before you reassembled the engine? I use rifle bore brushes followed by
bore patches when I clean a crankshaft and I am always amazed by the amount
of junk that I find there. What a miserable thing to have happen. I have a
1968 Cadillac 472 from an Eldorado that is presently on an engine stand in
my shop. I was planning on replacing my 403 with the Cad when it expires,
but I think I will roll it over and double check the condition of the
thrust faces on the mains. I might rethink using the Cad if we can't
pinpoint a cause for that problem. I have had many Cadillacs throughout the
years, starting with a 331 out of a 49 sedanette that broke cylinder heads,
a 390 in a 61 Coupe de Ville that was a 345 hp. Man was that a great
engine. I also had a 394 in a 77 Sedan de Ville that went over 200,000
miles. That 394 was very similar in design to the 472-500 engines, with the
external oil pump in the front cover. I think Jim K had some difficulty in
engine oiling with his monster too. Did you look carefully at the cam
bearings to see if the oil holes lined up with the passages? Not being
critical here, just trying to help solve the problem.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:
> Ken,
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> AW S#!T!
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> Regards,
> Rob M.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Henderson
>
> Today was not a good day. I don't even want to think about it, much
> less write about it. But in the interest of completeness, I'll try
> to write it up rationally -- then retire to pout.
>
> Oh yeah -- We will NOT be at Shawnee. :-(
>
> Ken H.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reviving the Cad 500 [message #163470 is a reply to message #163441] |
Sun, 18 March 2012 23:35 |
Ken Burton
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Ken,
I have been watching your saga closely without commenting because I know that you know more about what you are doing that I do.
I do not understand what the hell is going on here. I feel bad for you and your frustration with this engine. I do not know what else to say. I'm sorry this is happening.
Take a break from it, get in your Honda and come to Shawnee anyway. What you save in gas will pay for a motel room there.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reviving the Cad 500 [message #163483 is a reply to message #163441] |
Mon, 19 March 2012 06:50 |
jhbridges
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Some days it's the elevator. Some days, it's the shaft. You may be down to RF&RA (Rage, Frustration, and Random Actions). If the transmission isn't pushing against the shaft, what are the other possibilities? Slightly bent cionnecting rod? Out of line cam drive? The diety doesn't like you?
--johnny
'76 23' transmode
'76 palm beach
From: Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Reviving the Cad 500
I have no idea WHY. Nor WHAT to do. And I don't want to talk about
it or even think about it for a while. Y'All figure it out; I'm gonna
go pout. Too bad I'm not a drinking man -- I could really do it up
right tonight; me & Ken Murphy could really hang one on!
Oh yeah -- We will NOT be at Shawnee. :-(
Ken H.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reviving the Cad 500 [message #163490 is a reply to message #163483] |
Mon, 19 March 2012 07:05 |
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Johnny,
I was wondering if it is possible in a V-8 engine to have enough couple
imbalance in the crankshaft to cause it to move forward and aft?
For those of you who don't know what couple imbalance is:
http://www.azimadli.com/Vibman/coupleimbalance.htm
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Johnny Bridges
Some days it's the elevator. Some days, it's the shaft. You may be down to
RF&RA (Rage, Frustration, and Random Actions). If the transmission isn't
pushing against the shaft, what are the other possibilities? Slightly bent
cionnecting rod? Out of line cam drive? The diety doesn't like you?
--johnny
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
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