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Wanted Dual Pully Part Number [message #161251] Thu, 23 February 2012 17:14 Go to next message
Bob Raef is currently offline  Bob Raef   United States
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Rob Mueller
Do you have the AutoZone or NAPA part number of the alternator dual pully that you installed last summer?

Thank you in advance,


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Re: [GMCnet] Wanted Dual Pully Part Number [message #161272 is a reply to message #161251] Thu, 23 February 2012 19:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You might not want to do that
as you see here:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=42824&title=single-belt-3d-full-wrap&cat=5950

you get almost a full wrap on the PS pump with a single belt.

with a dual belt to the alternator

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=42823&title=dual-beltno-wrap&cat=5950

you get almost no wrap to the PS pump.

and

the alternator does not need two belts it the belts are correct, tight ,
and aligned.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=41720&title=alternatorbelt-maint-&cat=5950

gene



Do you have the AutoZone or NAPA part number of the alternator dual pully
> that you installed last summer?
>

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Re: [GMCnet] Wanted Dual Pully Part Number [message #161286 is a reply to message #161272] Thu, 23 February 2012 19:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mr ERFisher wrote on Thu, 23 February 2012 19:02

You might not want to do that as you see here:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=42824&title=single-belt-3d-full-wrap&cat=5950

you get almost a full wrap on the PS pump with a single belt. with a dual belt to the alternator

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=42823&title=dual-beltno-wrap&cat=5950

you get almost no wrap to the PS pump. and the alternator does not need two belts it the belts are correct, tight, and aligned.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=41720&title=alternatorbelt-maint-&cat=5950

gene

Do you have the AutoZone or NAPA part number of the alternator dual pully
> that you installed last summer?>

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Bob the NAPA part number is 13-494P. I got mine same day, if they have to order it JimK will probably get it to you sooner.

I too was concerned about lack of wrap on the power steering but wanted to try it.

Gene Thanks for the pictures of the tensioner. what a great little tool!
Its been four months since I bought the coach and I finally found a round tuit to fix the belt problem. The alternator pulley was not correctly aligned and the belts were put on wrong when the alternator was replaced. Belt broke on the way home from PO.

I decided to go with the double pulley (NAPA 13-494P) and tried to find Gatorbacks to do it up right and for once and for hopefully a long time. Dallas is not a small town so I thought surely someone would have them. Not so and no one was interested in ordering for me. After a week looking locally I found them on Amazon, arrived in another week. One pretty good, one really beat up and one really old faded one from before they were called Gatorbacks. Returned same day.

Gave up and went with just plain ole belts from Autozone. I went with longer 15580 not 15570 because that was what was on before, easy on and still plenty of slot for more tightening. Also only 10mm wide, written on the package and verified with a wrench, but they still ride above the edge of the sheave.

I made up the tensioner from two coupling nuts, a 4 1/2” bolt and a 1 ½” bolt to replace the one on the bottom of the alternator.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=42825&title=belt-tensioner&cat=5992

Easier to readjust in a couple hundred miles and then again if the cheaper and available belts give up. I decided to not bother cutting threads, just drilled the holes and stuck a nut between them. Turned out to be a big help maneuvering the bolt in after mounting the nuts. I don’t have the room that Gene’s pictures show. Two pipes for the out the front dipsticks and a couple bundles of cables run up the nearby brace. So without threads the bolt can slide back and forth going in around the interference.

I have decided to just leave the coupling nuts in to replace the original. Once the other tightening bolt on the bottom and the pivot bolt are tight I tighten up the coupling nuts and just leave them there.


Don Adams Dallas, TX
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rebuilt by R Archer, powered by J Bounds, Koba
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Re: [GMCnet] Wanted Dual Pully Part Number [message #161332 is a reply to message #161286] Thu, 23 February 2012 23:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I got my double pulley off an alternator I pulled from an early 70's Buick with a 455. I think it was an Electra. Most of the Big block Buick's I have seen in the yards seem to have the double pulleys on them as the factory setup.

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Re: [GMCnet] Wanted Dual Pully Part Number [message #161342 is a reply to message #161251] Fri, 24 February 2012 00:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob,

Below is a message I sent to my Aussie Mate Peter.

Alternator Double Pulley
Source: NAPA
Part Number: 13-494P
Price: $13.29
Net: $7.99
Purchased in Humble, TX

https://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?R=RAL13494P_000654
1015

When I put the dual pulley and belts on Double Trouble I:

1) pushed the alternator as far towards the engine block as I could
2) pushed the power steering pump as far towards the engine as I could
3) put the belts on
4) pushed the power steering pump as far out as I could and snugged it down
5) pushed the alternator out from the block to obtain the correct tension on
the belts

That gave me the maximum belt contact with the power steering pump and the
maximum range of adjustment using the alternator.

I bought Duralast belts from AutoZone. I just looked up '75 Toronado and
came up with:

http://tinyurl.com/3pn9pj9

If I understand the Duralast measuring system correctly the P/N:

Alternator: 15585 = 58.5" length
Power Steering: 15545 = 45.0" length
A/C Compressor: 15561 = 61.0" length

If Goodyear uses the same system the belt part numbers as listed on Gene's
website are:

Alternator: 15574 = 57.4" length
Power Steering: 15546 = 46.6" length
A/C Compressor: 15621 = 62.1" length

If my assumptions are correct the Duralast belt would be 1.1 inch longer
which would allow the bolt that rides in the power steering pump adjustment
slot to sit at the outboard end of the slot. That is where it's sitting on
Double Trouble. It's been that way for about 8-10,000 miles.

Regards,
Rob M.


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From: Bob Raef

Rob Mueller
Do you have the AutoZone or NAPA part number of the alternator dual pully
that you installed last summer?

Thank you in advance,
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Re: Wanted Dual Pully Part Number [message #161345 is a reply to message #161251] Fri, 24 February 2012 01:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My local Autozone had them under the counter and would swap them for free if you bought a new alternator from them and it had the wrong pulley. You could also ask them if they have them for sale without the new alternator.

As usual I'm sure Jim K. has them. I have seen them on his table at the GMCMI rallies. He stocks just about everything for a GMC.

It is a good change. I did mine about 10 years ago. With the double belt you do not have to run the belts as tight and the 100 amp alternator does not slip and squeal under full load.


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Re: [GMCnet] Wanted Dual Pully Part Number [message #161451 is a reply to message #161345] Fri, 24 February 2012 23:10 Go to previous message
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Ken,
Your correct, we have more different parts for the GMC than anyone.
It is a fact that some hate to realize.
We are approached by several vendors to stock and sell them as they do
not want the hassle.
We have in stock 12ea. of the double grove alternator pulley.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> My local Autozone had them under the counter and would swap them for free if you bought a new alternator from them and it had the wrong pulley.  You could also ask them if they have them for sale without the new alternator.
>
> As usual I'm sure Jim K. has them.  I have seen them on his table at the GMCMI rallies.  He stocks just about everything for a GMC.
>
> It is a good change. I did mine about 10 years ago.  With the double belt you do not have to run the belts as tight and the 100 amp alternator does not slip and squeal under full load.
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