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Re: [GMCnet] I Need Advice about Air Bag System Leaks [message #159995 is a reply to message #159956] Sat, 11 February 2012 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Barbara Brower is currently offline  Barbara Brower   United States
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Hi, we are new to this site, but have a 76 Glenbrook....
I installed different airbag system which has smaller bags for each wheel.
Now we have no problem with them going down at all...
She stays level & it also helped keeping steering much better as well.
I purchased them & installed them & they are working great...
Will look up the type, info & such information & let you know...
Dick Brower

Michigan



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Re: [GMCnet] I Need Advice about Air Bag System Leaks [message #159996 is a reply to message #159956] Sat, 11 February 2012 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Barbara Brower is currently offline  Barbara Brower   United States
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In regards to your airbag suspension leaking,
I've changed the air bags to a Air Bag Suspesion Kit purchased from
Leigh Harrison
you can go on this site:
www. IDencorpgmc.com

We have no more problems with small leasks as they are individual to the 4 wheels in back...
the hardware to install is included with the kits....

The info on the return address is:
Leigh Harrison
(703)494-9914
Cameron Motor Homes
1520 Woodside Dr.
Woodbridge, Va. 22191
They work sweet & just check airpressure with tire guage & fill with tire pump, gas station air, or your own compressor if you got a hose connect to reach both sides.....in your storage compartment...
Hope this helps, it helped the steering as well by far...
Dick Brower
bd72bowzer@yahoo.com

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Re: [GMCnet] I Need Advice about Air Bag System Leaks [message #227395 is a reply to message #159724] Mon, 28 October 2013 15:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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my drivers side air bag is leaking out of the front around the blocking between the plate and the bag. IN the fold. Why would this

happen, they are the short bags that MGM put in about a year ago or so from Jim K. they have shrader valves how ever you spell it and turn offs that i ordered and had him put them on. With the bags being pumped or filled by the valve they just leak in the front fold.
I have no idea why this started the other side holds air fine. My pump works great and fast. it started leaking out of the front fold?
they are the $650 set from Jim K. I was charged 1200 to put them on and the valves. that is not my problem nor do i care how much at this point in time, I need to fix it so i can move it around. I need someone that is in my area that knows bags and can change one if i order a new one, or if i get another kind that will not do this in this short of a time. What should i do? flat on the drivers side and will not fill with valve or auto pumping, with valve on or off. It has a leak around the front fold some where i have jacked up that side to
get the bag stretched out and in the shape as if it is full but it will not fill at all and leaks out the front fold. Is this a bag that may be exchanged?, it will buy new ones from harrison. i do not know what to do. now and need some one by anaheim to put them on when i get them. mickey anaheim ca. 77 palm beach. John has looked at my air pump inside and it is great. `120 psi in a few minutes.

If anyone wants to help me i shall pay them well. mickey :-) in my area.



On Feb 9, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Bes Brenenstall wrote:

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> Can Someone Please give me some Advice on what to do Next. Keep in Mind that I am too Old and Not Mechanically Inclined to Fix Anything Myself. The Motorhome is Leaking Air. I have taken it to 2 Different Places trying to find the Leaks. Both Places said the Air Bags are Not Leaking. One place told me there was a Very Small Leak in a Plastic Washer close to the Air Bag that didn't amount to much which is on the Drivers side - the Other Place worked on it for a number of hours and said there were 5 Leaks alone on the Drivers Side in the Fittings that they fixed but there was still another leak somewhere because in a 24 hour Period - it was going down 1/2". After they fixed the leaks they found - it does ride higher and I believe drives a little better than it did. On the way home, I left the switch on Auto instead of Hold and the compressor came on several times in 12 miles. I have had it home 10 days now - had the Switch on Hold - and still the back end is sinking.
Th
> e Drivers Side has dropped down 2 1/2" from the measurement I took after the compressor had the air bags full 10 days ago - the Passenger Side is down 5 1/2". The last place that fixerd it said it would be quite expensive to take the whole system out and replace it. I have already spent over $400 chasing Air Leaks. Does Anyone have Any Ideas what I should try next or should I just leave it alone? I want to take a trip in a month or so and am trying to get the problems fixed in advance.
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Re: [GMCnet] I Need Advice about Air Bag System Leaks [message #227408 is a reply to message #227395] Mon, 28 October 2013 16:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am ordering another bag from nick at applied if we can figure out what one MGM ordered?

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On Oct 28, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Mickey Space Ship Shuttle <mickeysss@me.com> wrote:

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> my drivers side air bag is leaking out of the front around the blocking between the plate and the bag. IN the fold. Why would this
>
> happen, they are the short bags that MGM put in about a year ago or so from Jim K. they have shrader valves how ever you spell it and turn offs that i ordered and had him put them on. With the bags being pumped or filled by the valve they just leak in the front fold.
> I have no idea why this started the other side holds air fine. My pump works great and fast. it started leaking out of the front fold?
> they are the $650 set from Jim K. I was charged 1200 to put them on and the valves. that is not my problem nor do i care how much at this point in time, I need to fix it so i can move it around. I need someone that is in my area that knows bags and can change one if i order a new one, or if i get another kind that will not do this in this short of a time. What should i do? flat on the drivers side and will not fill with valve or auto pumping, with valve on or off. It has a leak around the front fold some where i have jacked up that side to
> get the bag stretched out and in the shape as if it is full but it will not fill at all and leaks out the front fold. Is this a bag that may be exchanged?, it will buy new ones from harrison. i do not know what to do. now and need some one by anaheim to put them on when i get them. mickey anaheim ca. 77 palm beach. John has looked at my air pump inside and it is great. `120 psi in a few minutes.
>
> If anyone wants to help me i shall pay them well. mickey :-) in my area.
>
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Bes Brenenstall wrote:
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>> Can Someone Please give me some Advice on what to do Next. Keep in Mind that I am too Old and Not Mechanically Inclined to Fix Anything Myself. The Motorhome is Leaking Air. I have taken it to 2 Different Places trying to find the Leaks. Both Places said the Air Bags are Not Leaking. One place told me there was a Very Small Leak in a Plastic Washer close to the Air Bag that didn't amount to much which is on the Drivers side - the Other Place worked on it for a number of hours and said there were 5 Leaks alone on the Drivers Side in the Fittings that they fixed but there was still another leak somewhere because in a 24 hour Period - it was going down 1/2". After they fixed the leaks they found - it does ride higher and I believe drives a little better than it did. On the way home, I left the switch on Auto instead of Hold and the compressor came on several times in 12 miles. I have had it home 10 days now - had the Switch on Hold - and still the back end is sinking.
Th
>> e Drivers Side has dropped down 2 1/2" from the measurement I took after the compressor had the air bags full 10 days ago - the Passenger Side is down 5 1/2". The last place that fixerd it said it would be quite expensive to take the whole system out and replace it. I have already spent over $400 chasing Air Leaks. Does Anyone have Any Ideas what I should try next or should I just leave it alone? I want to take a trip in a month or so and am trying to get the problems fixed in advance.
>> --
>> Bess Brenenstall
>> Elvaston, Illinois
>> 1976 Birchaven
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Re: [GMCnet] I Need Advice about Air Bag System Leaks [message #227419 is a reply to message #227408] Mon, 28 October 2013 16:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mickeysss wrote on Mon, 28 October 2013 14:09

I am ordering another bag from nick at applied if we can figure out what one MGM ordered?

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On Oct 28, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Mickey Space Ship Shuttle <mickeysss@me.com> wrote:

>
> my drivers side air bag is leaking out of the front around the blocking between the plate and the bag. IN the fold. Why would this
>
> happen, they are the short bags that MGM put in about a year ago or so from Jim K. they have shrader valves how ever you spell it and turn offs that i ordered and had him put them on. With the bags being pumped or filled by the valve they just leak in the front fold.
> I have no idea why this started the other side holds air fine. My pump works great and fast. it started leaking out of the front fold?
> they are the $650 set from Jim K. I was charged 1200 to put them on and the valves. that is not my problem nor do i care how much at this point in time, I need to fix it so i can move it around. I need someone that is in my area that knows bags and can change one if i order a new one, or if i get another kind that will not do this in this short of a time. What should i do? flat on the drivers side and will not fill with valve or auto pumping, with valve on or off. It has a leak around the front fold some where i have jacked up that side to
> get the bag stretched out and in the shape as if it is full but it will not fill at all and leaks out the front fold. Is this a bag that may be exchanged?, it will buy new ones from harrison. i do not know what to do. now and need some one by anaheim to put them on when i get them. mickey anaheim ca. 77 palm beach. John has looked at my air pump inside and it is great. `120 psi in a few minutes.
>
> If anyone wants to help me i shall pay them well. mickey Smile in my area.
>
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Bes Brenenstall wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Can Someone Please give me some Advice on what to do Next. Keep in Mind that I am too Old and Not Mechanically Inclined to Fix Anything Myself. The Motorhome is Leaking Air. I have taken it to 2 Different Places trying to find the Leaks. Both Places said the Air Bags are Not Leaking. One place told me there was a Very Small Leak in a Plastic Washer close to the Air Bag that didn't amount to much which is on the Drivers side - the Other Place worked on it for a number of hours and said there were 5 Leaks alone on the Drivers Side in the Fittings that they fixed but there was still another leak somewhere because in a 24 hour Period - it was going down 1/2". After they fixed the leaks they found - it does ride higher and I believe drives a little better than it did. On the way home, I left the switch on Auto instead of Hold and the compressor came on several times in 12 miles. I have had it home 10 days now - had the Switch on Hold - and still the back end is sinking.
Th
>> e Drivers Side has dropped down 2 1/2" from the measurement I took after the compressor had the air bags full 10 days ago - the Passenger Side is down 5 1/2". The last place that fixerd it said it would be quite expensive to take the whole system out and replace it. I have already spent over $400 chasing Air Leaks. Does Anyone have Any Ideas what I should try next or should I just leave it alone? I want to take a trip in a month or so and am trying to get the problems fixed in advance.
>> --
>> Bess Brenenstall
>> Elvaston, Illinois
>> 1976 Birchaven
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Mickey,

I don't know what bags you have on your coach, but in general, they are not hard to change out. Your van mechanic should be able to easily handle the job if you can get the coach to him. You can always put a temporary rod or 4 X 4 wood block in place of the bad bag to get you to his shop.

http://gmcmotorhome.info/rear.html#bagrod


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: [GMCnet] I Need Advice about Air Bag System Leaks [message #227438 is a reply to message #227419] Mon, 28 October 2013 18:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mickey,

Take a few pictures of the bag and send them to me, I am reasonably confident that I can figger out what they are! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.
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Re: [GMCnet] I Need Advice about Air Bag System Leaks [message #227461 is a reply to message #227419] Mon, 28 October 2013 20:03 Go to previous message
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good idea. thanks, Mick, ca. 77palm playa. I ordered one from nick at applied he only had one in stock? thanks to nick and jimK

they called MGm and he told them the one they ordered. I never got a receipt or info to what one it was. But nick figured it out

it was the same time i ordered a valve and filler to the bag like for a tire. It seems to got low and the fold pinched a hole in it

in the front fold from going down. I jacked it up and got it long so it would fill easy and you can hear the air coming out of the front

fold. I have the good one on the other side so i suppose it is easiest to order another one right now. I wanted to get a quad bag

but mgm talked me out of it. live and learn. Now how to get the new one on, inside a storage area without being caught working on it.

I cannot drive it, it is to low. I need to change it there. fast. if anyone knows of a video of how to do it let me know please. THank you m.

On Oct 28, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:

>
>
> mickeysss wrote on Mon, 28 October 2013 14:09
>> I am ordering another bag from nick at applied if we can figure out what one MGM ordered?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Mickey Space Ship Shuttle <mickeysss@me.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> my drivers side air bag is leaking out of the front around the blocking between the plate and the bag. IN the fold. Why would this
>>>
>>> happen, they are the short bags that MGM put in about a year ago or so from Jim K. they have shrader valves how ever you spell it and turn offs that i ordered and had him put them on. With the bags being pumped or filled by the valve they just leak in the front fold.
>>> I have no idea why this started the other side holds air fine. My pump works great and fast. it started leaking out of the front fold?
>>> they are the $650 set from Jim K. I was charged 1200 to put them on and the valves. that is not my problem nor do i care how much at this point in time, I need to fix it so i can move it around. I need someone that is in my area that knows bags and can change one if i order a new one, or if i get another kind that will not do this in this short of a time. What should i do? flat on the drivers side and will not fill with valve or auto pumping, with valve on or off. It has a leak around the front fold some where i have jacked up that side to
>>> get the bag stretched out and in the shape as if it is full but it will not fill at all and leaks out the front fold. Is this a bag that may be exchanged?, it will buy new ones from harrison. i do not know what to do. now and need some one by anaheim to put them on when i get them. mickey anaheim ca. 77 palm beach. John has looked at my air pump inside and it is great. `120 psi in a few minutes.
>>>
>>> If anyone wants to help me i shall pay them well. mickey :) in my area.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 9, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Bes Brenenstall wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can Someone Please give me some Advice on what to do Next. Keep in Mind that I am too Old and Not Mechanically Inclined to Fix Anything Myself. The Motorhome is Leaking Air. I have taken it to 2 Different Places trying to find the Leaks. Both Places said the Air Bags are Not Leaking. One place told me there was a Very Small Leak in a Plastic Washer close to the Air Bag that didn't amount to much which is on the Drivers side - the Other Place worked on it for a number of hours and said there were 5 Leaks alone on the Drivers Side in the Fittings that they fixed but there was still another leak somewhere because in a 24 hour Period - it was going down 1/2". After they fixed the leaks they found - it does ride higher and I believe drives a little better than it did. On the way home, I left the switch on Auto instead of Hold and the compressor came on several times in 12 miles. I have had it home 10 days now - had the Switch on Hold - and still the back end is sinking
> .
>> Th
>>>> e Drivers Side has dropped down 2 1/2" from the measurement I took after the compressor had the air bags full 10 days ago - the Passenger Side is down 5 1/2". The last place that fixerd it said it would be quite expensive to take the whole system out and replace it. I have already spent over $400 chasing Air Leaks. Does Anyone have Any Ideas what I should try next or should I just leave it alone? I want to take a trip in a month or so and am trying to get the problems fixed in advance.
>>>> --
>>>> Bess Brenenstall
>>>> Elvaston, Illinois
>>>> 1976 Birchaven
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> Mickey,
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> I don't know what bags you have on your coach, but in general, they are not hard to change out. Your van mechanic should be able to easily handle the job if you can get the coach to him. You can always put a temporary rod or 4 X 4 wood block in place of the bad bag to get you to his shop.
>
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/rear.html#bagrod
> --
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> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
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