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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob [message #145033 is a reply to message #145016] Thu, 29 September 2011 14:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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JimB has the same thing.


Regards,
Rob

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From: Larry Davick

I'll have to post a picture of my Grandview key chain. Its one of those rubbery plastic things that you'll get at a shop with their
name printed on it. Tom Hampton had theirs made in the profile of a GMC Motorhome.

I love it.
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob [message #145081 is a reply to message #145028] Fri, 30 September 2011 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What part of manufacture are you into this? Did you engrave the coach? What if you were to put in the windows and doors instead of the print... can you make it look believable???

Is it metal or plastic??

Interested....


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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob [message #145084 is a reply to message #145081] Fri, 30 September 2011 12:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The tag is entirely my work. It is engraved (by me) on
standard engravable plastic. Within the realm of the
available resolution, it would look fine with windows.

On 9/30/2011 10:34 AM, Larry C wrote:
>
> What part of manufacture are you into this? Did you engrave the coach? What if you were to put in the windows and doors instead of the print... can you make it look believable???
>
> Is it metal or plastic??
>
> Interested....
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Re: GMC Motorhome Key Fob [message #145111 is a reply to message #144851] Fri, 30 September 2011 17:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No one has mentioned what was available originally, how anout these?


http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=1629&cat=3147

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=40388&title=gadabout-key-fob&cat=3147


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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob [message #145164 is a reply to message #145084] Sat, 01 October 2011 14:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Terry,

I can do a design for you to use with your setup if folks like the "real
thing" better than the GMCer.org inscribed on the fob. Just let me know.
Some of the artwork I have on hand would just need a subtle bit of
tweaking. Driver side or passenger side.

Byron

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From: Terry Taylor <n6mon@pacbell.net>
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:52:34 -0700
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob

>The tag is entirely my work. It is engraved (by me) on
>standard engravable plastic. Within the realm of the
>available resolution, it would look fine with windows.
>
>On 9/30/2011 10:34 AM, Larry C wrote:
>>
>> What part of manufacture are you into this? Did you engrave the coach?
>> What if you were to put in the windows and doors instead of the
>>print... can you make it look believable???
>>
>> Is it metal or plastic??
>>
>> Interested....
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob [message #145165 is a reply to message #145111] Sat, 01 October 2011 14:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Coca-Cola sure knew how to do co-marketing on that GadAbout. All the
"little extras" are fascinating.

Byron

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>
>
>No one has mentioned what was available originally, how anout these?
>
>
>http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=1629&cat=3147
>
>http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=40388&title=gadabout
>-key-fob&cat=3147
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob [message #145178 is a reply to message #145165] Sat, 01 October 2011 18:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Living in their hometown, and having worked with them off and on over the years, I'll tell you.  Coca-Cola is the master marketing company of all time.  They ranks with Disney and a couple of others for watching the miniscule stuff as well as the large.  It is ioncredible to me to observe, and it's effective.
 
--johnny
 


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Coca-Cola sure knew how to do co-marketing on that GadAbout. All the
"little extras" are fascinating.

Byron

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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob

>
>
>No one has mentioned what was available originally, how anout these?
>
>
>http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=1629&cat=3147
>
>http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=40388&title=gadabout
>-key-fob&cat=3147
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob [message #145192 is a reply to message #145178] Sat, 01 October 2011 19:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Johnny,

Sorry I'm going to disagree! I reckon Harley-Davidson wins that prize! I've NEVER seen anyone with a Coca-Cola or Disney tattoo! :-)


Regards,
Rob M.


-----Original Message-----
From: Johnny Bridges

Living in their hometown, and having worked with them off and on over the years, I'll tell you.  Coca-Cola is the master marketing
company of all time.  They ranks with Disney and a couple of others for watching the miniscule stuff as well as the large.  It is
incredible to me to observe, and it's effective.
 
--johnny
 

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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob [message #145216 is a reply to message #145016] Sat, 01 October 2011 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ljdavick wrote on Thu, 29 September 2011 13:46

I'll have to post a picture of my Grandview key chain. Its one of those rubbery plastic things that you'll get at a shop with their name printed on it. Tom Hampton had theirs made in the profile of a GMC Motorhome.

I love it.


Here's a photo of mine;
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=40919&title=grandview-key-fob&cat=500


Mike K. '75 PB Southeast Michigan
Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob [message #145219 is a reply to message #145192] Sat, 01 October 2011 23:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At least folks that drink Coke and go to Disney flicks or properties have
good taste. LOL.

Come to think of it, I did see a Disney tattoo once. It looked Goofy.

Byron

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Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 11:52:47 +1100
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>Johnny,
>
>Sorry I'm going to disagree! I reckon Harley-Davidson wins that prize!
>I've NEVER seen anyone with a Coca-Cola or Disney tattoo! :-)
>
>
>Regards,
>Rob M.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Johnny Bridges
>
>Living in their hometown, and having worked with them off and on over the
>years, I'll tell you. Coca-Cola is the master marketing
>company of all time. They ranks with Disney and a couple of others for
>watching the miniscule stuff as well as the large. It is
>incredible to me to observe, and it's effective.
>
>--johnny
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob [message #145221 is a reply to message #145219] Sun, 02 October 2011 00:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I remember Coca Cola as a kid. But it had a sweeter taste, different than it is today. Today the taste is kinda harsh, or bitter compared to back then.

Pepsi seems to have never changed its taste after all these years. I pack a couple cases of Pepsi when I go to a Disney park since they are only packing Coca Cola products, under contract with Coke.

I'd prefer to have the sweet Coke back rather than what is produced today.


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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob [message #145227 is a reply to message #145219] Sun, 02 October 2011 00:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Byron,

I stand corrected!

You reminded me of a gal I saw out at Sturgis one year, along with her HD tattoo she had one of Minnie Mouse!

Here's a picture of a couple of those no taste Harley bikers:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=26275

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-----Original Message-----
From: Byron Songer

At least folks that drink Coke and go to Disney flicks or properties have good taste. LOL.

Come to think of it, I did see a Disney tattoo once. It looked Goofy.

Byron

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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob [message #145229 is a reply to message #145221] Sun, 02 October 2011 00:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry,

Give Coke Zero a try, it has a sweet taste but NO aftertaste like Diet Coke.

I don't like Pepsi but Pepsi Max is OK.

I damn sure don't need the calories in regular Coke!

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry C

I remember Coca Cola as a kid. But it had a sweeter taste, different than it is today. Today the taste is kinda harsh, or bitter
compared to back then.

Pepsi seems to have never changed its taste after all these years. I pack a couple cases of Pepsi when I go to a Disney park since
they are only packing Coca Cola products, under contract with Coke.

I'd prefer to have the sweet Coke back rather than what is produced today.
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob [message #145231 is a reply to message #145111] Sun, 02 October 2011 01:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bill,

The Gad-A-Bout key fob is neat!

I've been perusing your pictures on the Photosite and noted the wooden GMC with the removable lid, I got one of those off eBay but
have no idea as to it's source, any info would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Rob M.


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Bryant

No one has mentioned what was available originally, how anout these?

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=1629&cat=3147

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=40388&title=gadabout-key-fob&cat=3147
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob [message #145249 is a reply to message #145231] Sun, 02 October 2011 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob

Sun, 02 October 2011 02:16






Robert Mueller



Bill,

The Gad-A-Bout key fob is neat!

I've been perusing your pictures on the Photosite and noted the wooden GMC with the removable lid, I got one of those off eBay but
have no idea as to it's source, any info would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Rob M.
>
>



Rob,
Stamped inside the top cover and on the bottom between the rear axles is; Buds wood barn, San Diego, CA

Will probably have mine on ebay in a couple of weeks.

Bill


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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob [message #145251 is a reply to message #145221] Sun, 02 October 2011 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I Live in Deming, NM and Wal Mart carries Coca Cola in bottles like we use
to get when we were young, they bring it in from Mexico I believe, the
Mexicans buy it, I bough a couple bottles some time back, it is the original
Coca Cola with sugar and all the original ingredient , Guess I'm older now,
tasted way to sweet for me, guess sometimes memories are better than reality







Serge
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From: Larry C
Date: 10/01/11 23:09:43
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob


I remember Coca Cola as a kid. But it had a sweeter taste, different than
it is today. Today the taste is kinda harsh, or bitter compared to back
then.

Pepsi seems to have never changed its taste after all these years. I pack a
couple cases of Pepsi when I go to a Disney park since they are only packing
Coca Cola products, under contract with Coke.

I'd prefer to have the sweet Coke back rather than what is produced today.
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob [message #145252 is a reply to message #145192] Sun, 02 October 2011 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Disnet discourages tattoos overall, and does not allow employees to show them on The Property.  I've not seen any on Coke employees, but I dunno they have a policy or not.  Of course, Harleys are like Corvettes - everybody ought to own one once.  For most of us, one is sufficient - although both are much improved from earlier efforts.
 
--johnny


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Johnny,

Sorry I'm going to disagree! I reckon Harley-Davidson wins that prize! I've NEVER seen anyone with a Coca-Cola or Disney tattoo! :-)


Regards,
Rob M.


-----Original Message-----
From: Johnny Bridges

Living in their hometown, and having worked with them off and on over the years, I'll tell you.  Coca-Cola is the master marketing
company of all time.  They ranks with Disney and a couple of others for watching the miniscule stuff as well as the large.  It is
incredible to me to observe, and it's effective.
 
--johnny
 

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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob [message #145253 is a reply to message #145221] Sun, 02 October 2011 11:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually, you can have it back.  The differernce is a glass container, and the use of cane sugar instead of the current HFCS.  Hit a Mexican supermarket, and buy some Heco de Mejico product.  It's still made with sugar and bottled in glass.
 
--johnny
 


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I remember Coca Cola as a kid.  But it had a sweeter taste, different than it is today.  Today the taste is kinda harsh, or bitter compared to back then. 

Pepsi seems to have never changed its taste after all these years.  I pack a couple cases of Pepsi when I go to a Disney park since they are only packing Coca Cola products, under contract with Coke.

I'd prefer to have the sweet Coke back rather than what is produced today.
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob [message #145257 is a reply to message #145164] Sun, 02 October 2011 12:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks, Byron,

I have already done one as an outline, look here:
http://dldesignstore.com//index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=35
or here
http://dldesignstore.com//index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=35
I can easily do a right side view with a door.

I can send you one to look at, if you like.

These are done on a Roland EGX-20 rotary engraver. I am
somewhat limited on fine detail by the available cutting
blades, but I don't think
that the lower one with the outline looks too bad.

tt

On 10/1/2011 12:09 PM, Byron Songer wrote:
> Terry,
>
> I can do a design for you to use with your setup if folks like the "real
> thing" better than the GMCer.org inscribed on the fob. Just let me know.
> Some of the artwork I have on hand would just need a subtle bit of
> tweaking. Driver side or passenger side.
>
> Byron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Taylor<n6mon@pacbell.net>
> Reply-To:<gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:52:34 -0700
> To:<gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob
>
>> The tag is entirely my work. It is engraved (by me) on
>> standard engravable plastic. Within the realm of the
>> available resolution, it would look fine with windows.
>>
>> On 9/30/2011 10:34 AM, Larry C wrote:
>>> What part of manufacture are you into this? Did you engrave the coach?
>>> What if you were to put in the windows and doors instead of the
>>> print... can you make it look believable???
>>>
>>> Is it metal or plastic??
>>>
>>> Interested....
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Terry Taylor
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome Key Fob [message #145258 is a reply to message #145216] Sun, 02 October 2011 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
n6mon is currently offline  n6mon   United States
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I added another version to my web store if anyone wants to
look at it. I could also do a right side view version, if
there is interest.

http://dldesignstore.com//index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=35

Click on the picture for a higher resolution pop-up of the
tag(s).

On 10/1/2011 8:40 PM, Mike wrote:
>
> ljdavick wrote on Thu, 29 September 2011 13:46
>> I'll have to post a picture of my Grandview key chain. Its one of those rubbery plastic things that you'll get at a shop with their name printed on it. Tom Hampton had theirs made in the profile of a GMC Motorhome.
>>
>> I love it.
>
> Here's a photo of mine;
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=40919&title=grandview-key-fob&cat=500
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