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| Re: [GMCnet] Link to watch Pawn Stars GMC episode [message #123442 is a reply to message #123437] |
Wed, 27 April 2011 05:32   |
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mike miller
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Desmond,
Thanks for the link.
After looking at the paint job, I personally like it better than the original, but it destroys the value as a collector item. (I do not think the paint is nice enough to make up the value.)
Does anyone make a reproduction spare tire cover like that? (Maybe a little less prominent ridges.) If supplied blank, it could have a market well beyond the GMC community. Who wouldn't want a big beer bottle cap on the back of their Jeep?
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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| Re: [GMCnet] Link to watch Pawn Stars GMC episode [message #123506 is a reply to message #123442] |
Wed, 27 April 2011 12:12 |
Kosier
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Mike,
Milt Wade in Las Vegas had a mold made off an original Coke tire
cover. He should either still have it or
know of it's whereabouts.
Gary Kosier
77EII & 77PB
Newark, Ohio
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From: "Mike Miller" <m000035@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Link to watch Pawn Stars GMC episode
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> 980 wrote on Wed, 27 April 2011 00:22
>> ... Here is a link to the episode of Pawn Stars featuring the
>> GMC. It's pretty close to the beginning of the show. ...
>> http://tvtodays.com/pawn-stars/episode-49-pom-pom-pawn.html
>> ...
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>
> Desmond,
>
> Thanks for the link.
>
> After looking at the paint job, I personally like it better
> than the original, but it destroys the value as a collector
> item. (I do not think the paint is nice enough to make up the
> value.)
>
> Does anyone make a reproduction spare tire cover like that?
> (Maybe a little less prominent ridges.) If supplied blank, it
> could have a market well beyond the GMC community. Who
> wouldn't want a big beer bottle cap on the back of their Jeep?
> --
> Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
> '73 26' exPainted D. -- `78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- `77 23'
> Birchaven Side Bath
> http://m000035.blogspot.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Link to watch Pawn Stars GMC episode [message #123509 is a reply to message #123506] |
Wed, 27 April 2011 12:29 |
k2gkk
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I think it would be neat to get one made
and put one's favorite brew logo added!
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> From: gkosier@roadrunner.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:12:22 -0400
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Link to watch Pawn Stars GMC episode
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> Mike,
>
> Milt Wade in Las Vegas had a mold made off an original Coke tire
> cover. He should either still have it or
> know of it's whereabouts.
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77EII & 77PB
> Newark, Ohio
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Miller" <m000035@gmail.com>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Link to watch Pawn Stars GMC episode
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> >
> >
> > 980 wrote on Wed, 27 April 2011 00:22
> >> ... Here is a link to the episode of Pawn Stars featuring the
> >> GMC. It's pretty close to the beginning of the show. ...
> >> http://tvtodays.com/pawn-stars/episode-49-pom-pom-pawn.html
> >> ...
> >
> >
> > Desmond,
> >
> > Thanks for the link.
> >
> > After looking at the paint job, I personally like it better
> > than the original, but it destroys the value as a collector
> > item. (I do not think the paint is nice enough to make up the
> > value.)
> >
> > Does anyone make a reproduction spare tire cover like that?
> > (Maybe a little less prominent ridges.) If supplied blank, it
> > could have a market well beyond the GMC community. Who
> > wouldn't want a big beer bottle cap on the back of their Jeep?
> > --
> > Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
> > '73 26' exPainted D. -- `78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- `77 23'
> > Birchaven Side Bath
> > http://m000035.blogspot.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Link to watch Pawn Stars GMC episode [message #123516 is a reply to message #123509] |
Wed, 27 April 2011 12:59 |
tmaki
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On 4/27/2011 10:29 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote:
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> I think it would be neat to get one made
> and put one's favorite brew logo added!
It would be neat.
Although getting a "cease and desist" letter from the IP
attorneys at "one's favorite brew" might be discouraging.
These companies are fire-breathing dragons when it comes to
brand IDs and licensing.
Not that Disney is a source of favorite brew, but they are
an outstanding example of how uncompromising they can be.
Some years ago I was contracted to record a performance of a
group that was doing some Disney material. I was informed
that Disney was intending to put representatives in the
audience, and that they would terminate the performance of
any Disney material if it was recorded without permission.
(The group obtained performance permission in time to avert
a scene, but the Disney people were there.)
Likewise, NFL teams are quite jealous of their branding. A
small concern that produces very interesting and giftable
NFL-style materials was not allowed to produce materials
that displayed a certain team's logo. When I inquired of
them as to why, they told me the licensing contract was so
onerous that they just couldn't do it.
So, I'm guessing the owner's of the IP associated with one's
favorite brew would be as protective.
It would be neat, though.
Toby Maki
'73 Glacier 230
Riverside, CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Link to watch Pawn Stars GMC episode [message #123521 is a reply to message #123516] |
Wed, 27 April 2011 13:18 |
gmcrv1
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Being in the sign business, I can attest to the aggressiveness of the
copyright holders and licencing and brand identification of many companies.
Years ago we did a banner campaign for Pepsi-Cola, I asked what I needed
from them to reproduce their logo. They said nothing as long as it is used
in good taste and the registration R is present. Coke is a whole different
animal.
I have never had an issue with the branding folks, but there are those out
there that will do anything for a buck. I have seen reps from GM at some of
the larger car events shut down, confiscate material and equipment and
prosecute vendors using their logos. Usually after a preliminary warning.
Not worth loosing $20,000 of equipment for a few bucks. Besides, if you're
on the right side of these companies, they will pay you well to install
their materials.
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:59 PM, tmaki <tmaki@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 4/27/2011 10:29 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote:
> >
> > I think it would be neat to get one made
> > and put one's favorite brew logo added!
>
>
> It would be neat.
>
> Although getting a "cease and desist" letter from the IP
> attorneys at "one's favorite brew" might be discouraging.
> These companies are fire-breathing dragons when it comes to
> brand IDs and licensing.
>
> Not that Disney is a source of favorite brew, but they are
> an outstanding example of how uncompromising they can be.
> Some years ago I was contracted to record a performance of a
> group that was doing some Disney material. I was informed
> that Disney was intending to put representatives in the
> audience, and that they would terminate the performance of
> any Disney material if it was recorded without permission.
> (The group obtained performance permission in time to avert
> a scene, but the Disney people were there.)
>
> Likewise, NFL teams are quite jealous of their branding. A
> small concern that produces very interesting and giftable
> NFL-style materials was not allowed to produce materials
> that displayed a certain team's logo. When I inquired of
> them as to why, they told me the licensing contract was so
> onerous that they just couldn't do it.
>
> So, I'm guessing the owner's of the IP associated with one's
> favorite brew would be as protective.
>
> It would be neat, though.
>
>
>
>
> Toby Maki
> '73 Glacier 230
> Riverside, CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Link to watch Pawn Stars GMC episode [message #123561 is a reply to message #123521] |
Wed, 27 April 2011 19:29 |
jtblank
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Harley Davidson Motorcycles is really aggressive in searching for unauthorized use of their logos, about a year ago I designed a customers website that sold vintage motorcycles. On the front page of the site was the various logos of manufacturers, with in the first week I got a notice of unauthorized use of logo and or name. Unless you are a dealer you can not use their logo or the words Harley Davidson without motorcycle(s) on the end. To this date have never heard from Triumph, Honda, BSA, BMW, I even got a thank you letter after it was taken down.
John Blankenship
'76 Palm Beach
Tulare, CA
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| [GMCnet] Logos, Copyrights, Trademarks, Licensing, etc. [message #123566 is a reply to message #123561] |
Wed, 27 April 2011 19:42 |
k2gkk
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I think I read somewhere that Harley-Davidson is
second only to Coca Cola regarding the world-wide
recognition of their logos.
H-D seems to be especially critical as to quality
of any merchandise they license for manufacture
by other companies.
Big time universities are also jealous of their
logos and royalties! They especially hit upon
flea markets where it is almost guaranteed that
the merchandise is non-authorized ripoffs.
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2007 FXDL Dyna Low Rider (wife's)
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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: jtblank@yahoo.com
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:29:57 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Link to watch Pawn Stars GMC episode
>
> Harley Davidson Motorcycles is really aggressive in searching for unauthorized use of their logos, about a year ago I designed a customers website that sold vintage motorcycles. On the front page of the site was the various logos of manufacturers, with in the first week I got a notice of unauthorized use of logo and or name. Unless you are a dealer you can not use their logo or the words Harley Davidson without motorcycle(s) on the end. To this date have never heard from Triumph, Honda, BSA, BMW, I even got a thank you letter after it was taken down.
> --
> John Blankenship
> '76 Palm Beach
> Tulare, CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Link to watch Pawn Stars GMC episode [message #123596 is a reply to message #123561] |
Wed, 27 April 2011 23:39 |
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USAussie
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John,
And rightly so!
There are several anecdotes about HD the first was when they tried to
trademark the sound that their V-twin engines make. They fought that battle
in the courts for six years and finally gave up.
The second was when they tried to restrict the use of the term HOG after
they started the Harley Owners Group. They aggressively pursued a shop in
San Jose, CA and won that case. Then they took on a shop in Seneca Falls, NY
called The HOG Farm. The owner stood his ground as he had been using the
name since 1969 or thereabouts which was YEARS before HD registered the
term. At the end of the day the judge sided with The Hog Farm.
I met the owner once at a motorcycle aftermarket show, his name was Andy
Grottelli (or something like that). He told me that HD's corporate lawyers
kept messing with him. He would have his lawyer accompany him to a hearing
and HD would file a continuance for one reason or another. The main reason
was to try and get Andy to give up. As noted above he did not and won the
case!
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 8:30 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Link to watch Pawn Stars GMC episode
Harley Davidson Motorcycles is really aggressive in searching for
unauthorized use of their logos, about a year ago I designed a customers
website that sold vintage motorcycles. On the front page of the site was
the various logos of manufacturers, with in the first week I got a notice of
unauthorized use of logo and or name. Unless you are a dealer you can not
use their logo or the words Harley Davidson without motorcycle(s) on the
end. To this date have never heard from Triumph, Honda, BSA, BMW, I even
got a thank you letter after it was taken down.
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'76 Palm Beach
Tulare, CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Link to watch Pawn Stars GMC episode [message #123606 is a reply to message #123596] |
Thu, 28 April 2011 05:04 |
JimGunther
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I understand that Harley (during the 1980's?) made more money on mechandising than they did on sale of their bikes.
For that matter, such may still be true.
Image is everything.
Jim Gunther
www.LotusV6.com
now former owner - ;(
73 GMC-II 2600
by Explorer
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| Re: [GMCnet] Link to watch Pawn Stars GMC episode [message #123612 is a reply to message #123596] |
Thu, 28 April 2011 07:10 |
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Harley Davidson isn't the only one. A company I formerly worked for (known
for it's consumer devices) did it's fair share. We, as reps in the field,
were trained to spot inappropriate uses so we could notify the offending
individuals and help them take corrective action before attorneys got the
word.
A kinder, more gentler approach.
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Byron Songer
1978 GMC Royale
Louisville, KY
http://www.gmceast.com
http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Rob Mueller wrote:
> John,
>
> And rightly so!
>
> There are several anecdotes about HD the first was when they tried to
> trademark the sound that their V-twin engines make. They fought that battle
> in the courts for six years and finally gave up.
>
> The second was when they tried to restrict the use of the term HOG after
> they started the Harley Owners Group. They aggressively pursued a shop in
> San Jose, CA and won that case. Then they took on a shop in Seneca Falls, NY
> called The HOG Farm. The owner stood his ground as he had been using the
> name since 1969 or thereabouts which was YEARS before HD registered the
> term. At the end of the day the judge sided with The Hog Farm.
>
> I met the owner once at a motorcycle aftermarket show, his name was Andy
> Grottelli (or something like that). He told me that HD's corporate lawyers
> kept messing with him. He would have his lawyer accompany him to a hearing
> and HD would file a continuance for one reason or another. The main reason
> was to try and get Andy to give up. As noted above he did not and won the
> case!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of John Blankenship
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 8:30 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Link to watch Pawn Stars GMC episode
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>
>
> Harley Davidson Motorcycles is really aggressive in searching for
> unauthorized use of their logos, about a year ago I designed a customers
> website that sold vintage motorcycles. On the front page of the site was
> the various logos of manufacturers, with in the first week I got a notice of
> unauthorized use of logo and or name. Unless you are a dealer you can not
> use their logo or the words Harley Davidson without motorcycle(s) on the
> end. To this date have never heard from Triumph, Honda, BSA, BMW, I even
> got a thank you letter after it was taken down.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Link to watch Pawn Stars GMC episode [message #123621 is a reply to message #123596] |
Thu, 28 April 2011 08:27 |
k2gkk
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Very interesting, Rob.
Seneca Falls, NY is my wife Judy's hometown!
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~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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> From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 00:39:54 -0400
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Link to watch Pawn Stars GMC episode
>
> John,
>
> And rightly so!
>
> There are several anecdotes about HD the first was when they tried to
> trademark the sound that their V-twin engines make. They fought that battle
> in the courts for six years and finally gave up.
>
> The second was when they tried to restrict the use of the term HOG after
> they started the Harley Owners Group. They aggressively pursued a shop in
> San Jose, CA and won that case. Then they took on a shop in Seneca Falls, NY
> called The HOG Farm. The owner stood his ground as he had been using the
> name since 1969 or thereabouts which was YEARS before HD registered the
> term. At the end of the day the judge sided with The Hog Farm.
>
> I met the owner once at a motorcycle aftermarket show, his name was Andy
> Grottelli (or something like that). He told me that HD's corporate lawyers
> kept messing with him. He would have his lawyer accompany him to a hearing
> and HD would file a continuance for one reason or another. The main reason
> was to try and get Andy to give up. As noted above he did not and won the
> case!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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