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Rob, we have this argument at work all the time. HP=torgue X RPM / 5252. HP is what does the work and without it there is no movement. I'm sure you're getting at how much torque is available and when, but in the end, HP is what moves you down the road. With proper gearing, as long as you have HP, you can tune the torque curve to where you need it. If you have a lot of torque but low HP, you're going to take a long time getting anywhere 
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gas Prices- At What Point Do You Park It? [message #117265 is a reply to message #116531] |
Wed, 02 March 2011 17:55 |
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For me -- I generally like to keep my coach original -- part of the pleasure is owning and experiencing a vehicle from an earlier time.
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When I got into the GMC, that was my thought too, to keep it completely original.
But the interior was already semi gutted and rebuilt. It looked pretty good so I did not mind that part.
I then thought since it ran ok to keep the mechanicals original.
that idea went stage left when I had to replace the air bags with the 4 bagger, then I was told to change out the dist to electronic, the old vacuum type cruise was DOA so I was told to go with the Elec Cruise from Bounds.
I have come to the conclusion that I will attempt to keep the orginal equipment in operating condition as long as it works well and is economical, well for a GMC. But there are changes that must be made because of cost or availability, where we take a little side step, hopefully for the better
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gas Prices- At What Point Do You Park It? [message #117266 is a reply to message #116469] |
Wed, 02 March 2011 17:58 |
Larry C
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Jim,
When have you ever driven below 75 mph except when you run out of gas?
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JimK Ran out of Gas??
Well good explanation for why he is driving so slowly.
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| Re: Gas Prices- At What Point Do You Park It? [message #117267 is a reply to message #116614] |
Wed, 02 March 2011 18:06 |
Larry C
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1. We all live where best we can afford it. In our home, for 34 years, paid for and minimal tax and upkeep allows us to live our life style in a manner that is probably less expensive then anywhere else. This thinking can be extended to a reasonably priced and paid for GMC. The GMC allows us to be able to extend that luxury as a mobile unit, traveling within our own time table and style.
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I have always looked at the GMC in this way.
I have never taken a loan on any of its upgrades, it has always been paid for so NO MONTHLY PAYMENTS.
The only big expense, unless an upgrade is being done, is when I travel in the GMC, that would be for GASOLINE.
It is pretty hard for me to say I am not going to travel when my gas bill is never more than what 1 months cost on a loan would have been.
The GMC, in itself, has been money in the bank...
" We return you to the program that is now on the air "
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gas Prices- At What Point Do You Park It? [message #117336 is a reply to message #117267] |
Thu, 03 March 2011 09:28 |
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Well,
Perhaps the thing to do is make your trips longer in time vs. travel. Map
out all the Wal-Marts along your trip. Stay over at the "free" Wally
World's and apply for the meeter & greeter position at the front door. You
can keep an eye on your coach and quit when you made enough $$$ to fill the
tanks! "All aboard for the next Wally World"!
"We have ways"
Just a crazy, random thought,
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Larry <slawrence111@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> 1. We all live where best we can afford it. In our home, for 34 years, paid
> for and minimal tax and upkeep allows us to live our life style in a manner
> that is probably less expensive then anywhere else. This thinking can be
> extended to a reasonably priced and paid for GMC. The GMC allows us to be
> able to extend that luxury as a mobile unit, traveling within our own time
> table and style.
> _./__________________________________
>
> I have always looked at the GMC in this way.
> I have never taken a loan on any of its upgrades, it has always been paid
> for so NO MONTHLY PAYMENTS.
> The only big expense, unless an upgrade is being done, is when I travel in
> the GMC, that would be for GASOLINE.
>
> It is pretty hard for me to say I am not going to travel when my gas bill
> is never more than what 1 months cost on a loan would have been.
>
> The GMC, in itself, has been money in the bank...
>
> " We return you to the program that is now on the air "
> --
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> 74 GLACIER X, 260
> 455/APC/4 bagg'r(ver3)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gas Prices- At What Point Do You Park It? [message #117385 is a reply to message #117336] |
Thu, 03 March 2011 15:27 |
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Words of wisdom.
--- On Thu, 3/3/11, Tom Eckert <gmcrv1@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Tom Eckert <gmcrv1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gas Prices- At What Point Do You Park It?
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 10:28 AM
Well,
Perhaps the thing to do is make your trips longer in time vs. travel. Map
out all the Wal-Marts along your trip. Stay over at the "free" Wally
World's and apply for the meeter & greeter position at the front door. You
can keep an eye on your coach and quit when you made enough $$$ to fill the
tanks! "All aboard for the next Wally World"!
"We have ways"
Just a crazy, random thought,
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Larry <slawrence111@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> 1. We all live where best we can afford it. In our home, for 34 years, paid
> for and minimal tax and upkeep allows us to live our life style in a manner
> that is probably less expensive then anywhere else. This thinking can be
> extended to a reasonably priced and paid for GMC. The GMC allows us to be
> able to extend that luxury as a mobile unit, traveling within our own time
> table and style.
> _./__________________________________
>
> I have always looked at the GMC in this way.
> I have never taken a loan on any of its upgrades, it has always been paid
> for so NO MONTHLY PAYMENTS.
> The only big expense, unless an upgrade is being done, is when I travel in
> the GMC, that would be for GASOLINE.
>
> It is pretty hard for me to say I am not going to travel when my gas bill
> is never more than what 1 months cost on a loan would have been.
>
> The GMC, in itself, has been money in the bank...
>
> " We return you to the program that is now on the air "
> --
> Gatsbys' CRUISER :d
> 74 GLACIER X, 260
> 455/APC/4 bagg'r(ver3)
> Remflex Manifold gaskets
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> Purchased 08-18-04
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| Re: Gas Prices- At What Point Do You Park It? [message #117635 is a reply to message #116629] |
Sat, 05 March 2011 08:54 |
Larry C
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All things are affected; may last two months propane bill was more than my total for last year. I can't turn off the heat and hot water while we are in the house, so we may as well travel . . .?
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This brings to mind, some years back I was working at the Generating Station. And, as happens when a bunch of men work together, one gets an Idea and the "sheep" will follow.
Some of these guys had electric heat installed in their homes under a company incentive plan. However, over the years, the electric rate continued to raise and their method of heating became expensive. So one inovative individual put in a wood burning stove. He would go around and cut down unwanted trees for the wood and burn it in the Winter. He was able to open the breaker to the electric heat circuit all Winter.
The sheep followed suit. ..............
Burning wood might not be beneficial for the GMC but setting up your coach to take any advantage of the suns heat would be a great idea, especially since we have those nice huge windows.
For your home, Solar panels can be built for collecting heat, by individuals without too much of a cost and would help lower fuel usage during the day when the sun is out. I have done some research and some planning in regards to this method of supplemental heating. After this year, and the announcement that the gas and electric company will be raising rates, I will be building and testing solar heating panels this year. Anyone interested in trying this can search on U-tube and we can talk about ideas. After the initial build cost, its " No Charge " from the sun.
Other than the crap ( ethynol ) that is in our fuel these days, this is one way you might GO GREEN at home.
Just my thoughts
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gas Prices- At What Point Do You Park It? [message #117638 is a reply to message #116457] |
Sat, 05 March 2011 09:04 |
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Jim + 55mph = BS!
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com>wrote:
> Phil,
> Looks like Grace and I will eat more rice in our coach and no more
> Steak and Lobster at a restuant.
> Stop at parking lots more and throw away our KOA Camping cards.
> Also learn to drive 55mph, no more 65-75 speeds.
> It might be fun trying to work at streatching the gas as we travel.
> We picked up a 78 GMC today and hope that will become the coach that
> we will keep in the Mid West for Conventions and Ralleys.
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> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Phil Swanson <woodyman1@sbcglobal.net>
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> > It is no secret that gas prices are headed for new levels, well above $4
> a gallon, maybe $5 by summer. Just curious when folks are going to park it
> and at what level. Will you drive your coach at $5 a gallon or more? How
> about long trips to rallies at over $5 a gallon? My cross country summer
> trips are probably put on hold for a while. How do you feel and at what
> level do you park it? At $6 a gallon, mine will become a storage pod, only
> to be started once in a while. What is your limit?
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gas Prices- At What Point Do You Park It? [message #117678 is a reply to message #117638] |
Sat, 05 March 2011 17:08 |
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Yo Steve,
Look what I just found on Jim K's website:
Observations On How To Obtain Decent Gas Mileage
http://www.appliedgmc.com/images/gas_mileage.pdf
I reckon Jim should add the following at the end of step 10.
(Not like me!) ;-)
All kidding aside it is some VERY good advice!
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USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Jim + 55mph = BS!
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com>wrote:
> Phil,
> Looks like Grace and I will eat more rice in our coach and no more
> Steak and Lobster at a restuant.
> Stop at parking lots more and throw away our KOA Camping cards.
> Also learn to drive 55mph, no more 65-75 speeds.
> It might be fun trying to work at streatching the gas as we travel.
> We picked up a 78 GMC today and hope that will become the coach that
> we will keep in the Mid West for Conventions and Ralleys.
>
> --
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gas Prices- At What Point Do You Park It? [message #117931 is a reply to message #117926] |
Mon, 07 March 2011 21:48 |
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nah
the trips will just get longer, and better
these are not transportation, they are touring machines.
go and stay a while
gene
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Phil Swanson <woodyman1@sbcglobal.net>wrote:
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> At five bucks a gallon, in todays economy, 80% of the GMCs will be
> basically parked I would say. The remaining ones will seldom be driven. At
> $200 to fill that sucker up, most will become mobile storage cans. I would
> imagine that the miles driven in out coaches is already half of what it was
> last year. When gas hits 5 bucks, mine is going into non op status and
> insurance gets cancelled.
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| Re: Gas Prices- At What Point Do You Park It? [message #117949 is a reply to message #117926] |
Tue, 08 March 2011 01:00 |
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| philipswanson wrote on Mon, 07 March 2011 19:13 |
At five bucks a gallon, in todays economy, 80% of the GMCs will be basically parked I would say. The remaining ones will seldom be driven. At $200 to fill that sucker up, most will become mobile storage cans. I would imagine that the miles driven in out coaches is already half of what it was last year. When gas hits 5 bucks, mine is going into non op status and insurance gets cancelled.
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Here's the way I look at this issue, related to the way I use the coach. It is usually used for extended weekend getaways, usually about a 200 mile round trip. So if I use 20 gallons @ $5.00, that's $100 lodging for my usual 3-night weekend (no RV park - dry camp). Cheaper than Motel-6. And actually, it should be the difference between the fuel cost in my car and the fuel cost in the GMC, which is about $50. So, even at $5.00 per gallon, I'm only paying $50 lodging for the trip.
Pete Smay
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gas Prices- At What Point Do You Park It? [message #117954 is a reply to message #117931] |
Tue, 08 March 2011 07:27 |
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The GMC is a getaway dream machine.
The cost of fuel has very little to do with the adventure. These things are supposed to already be planned and saved for. If we were so concerned about the cost of a trip, we would never have bought the GMC in the first place.
Where else can you take your home with you to stay at relatives, state parks, amusement areas or even find an inexpensive or free spot to stop and rest the night? Without this machine, you'd be staying in a motel, and if you bring your dogs or cats, those choices are limited, and then, they put you in a smokers room.
We just need to open our view of how to plan ( Plan is the key word here ) a trip and prepare for it BEFORE actually leaving for that trip.
Everyone needs that escape, the GMC is the escape vehicle that connects us with friends, entertainment and a peaceful retreat. How can you put a price on all that???
my thoughts
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| Re: Gas Prices- At What Point Do You Park It? [message #117958 is a reply to message #117949] |
Tue, 08 March 2011 07:39 |
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| PETEinLongBeach wrote on Tue, 08 March 2011 01:00 |
| philipswanson wrote on Mon, 07 March 2011 19:13 |
At five bucks a gallon, in todays economy, 80% of the GMCs will be basically parked I would say. The remaining ones will seldom be driven. At $200 to fill that sucker up, most will become mobile storage cans. I would imagine that the miles driven in out coaches is already half of what it was last year. When gas hits 5 bucks, mine is going into non op status and insurance gets cancelled.
Phil Swanson
77GMCPB
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Here's the way I look at this issue, related to the way I use the coach. It is usually used for extended weekend getaways, usually about a 200 mile round trip. So if I use 20 gallons @ $5.00, that's $100 lodging for my usual 3-night weekend (no RV park - dry camp). Cheaper than Motel-6. And actually, it should be the difference between the fuel cost in my car and the fuel cost in the GMC, which is about $50. So, even at $5.00 per gallon, I'm only paying $50 lodging for the trip.
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And I don't know about you, but I seldom camp in a urban parking lot. it's usually state forests of decent campgrounds.
There is a big difference between staying in town in a corporate motel chain and staying somewhere you can hear the birds chirp.
Or you can be like my quite well off father in law and sit home with one 40 watt light bulb and read the paper all day. yuck what a waste.
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gas Prices- At What Point Do You Park It? [message #117959 is a reply to message #117954] |
Tue, 08 March 2011 07:42 |
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yesssssss
and you even have an APC ;>)
gene
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Larry <slawrence111@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> The GMC is a getaway dream machine.
> The cost of fuel has very little to do with the adventure. These things
> are supposed to already be planned and saved for. If we were so concerned
> about the cost of a trip, we would never have bought the GMC in the first
> place.
>
> Where else can you take your home with you to stay at relatives, state
> parks, amusement areas or even find an inexpensive or free spot to stop and
> rest the night? Without this machine, you'd be staying in a motel, and if
> you bring your dogs or cats, those choices are limited, and then, they put
> you in a smokers room.
>
> We just need to open our view of how to plan ( Plan is the key word here )
> a trip and prepare for it BEFORE actually leaving for that trip.
>
> Everyone needs that escape, the GMC is the escape vehicle that connects us
> with friends, entertainment and a peaceful retreat. How can you put a price
> on all that???
>
> my thoughts
> --
> Gatsbys' CRUISER :d
> 74 GLACIER X, 260
> 455/APC/4 bagg'r(ver3)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gas Prices- At What Point Do You Park It? [message #117968 is a reply to message #117959] |
Tue, 08 March 2011 08:04 |
Ray Erspamer
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Sorry if I come on a little strong here, but the cost of fuel doesn't bother me
much. In my opinion it's all a matter of preferences and priorities.....
The way Lisa and I look at it is this......we spend our money on the enjoyable
things that are OUR priorities, which is vacationing, etc. This may not be
other peoples priorities and that is fine, that is their choice.
Examples:
1. We don't spend $400 per month on cigarettes.....some people do and that is
their choice.
2. We don't spend $200 to $400 per month on bowling league with drinks one or
two nights a week.
3. We don't spend THOUSANDS of dollars on season tickets to sports events...
4. We don't have $15,000 worth of snowmobiles, or a summer cabin, ATV's, etc,
etc, etc.
The list could go on forever, it's all a matter of wants, likes and
preferences....... I won't condemn anyone for what they enjoy, many of them may
think that we're all nuts putting money into our GMC's and paying $4.00 for a
gallon of gas for a vehicle that gets between 8 and 10 MPG...... life is all
about choices. If gas goes to $10.00 a gallon (which I hope it doesn't), Lisa
and I will still enjoy our GMC.
Ray
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From: Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 7:42:07 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gas Prices- At What Point Do You Park It?
yesssssss
and you even have an APC ;>)
gene
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Larry <slawrence111@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> The GMC is a getaway dream machine.
> The cost of fuel has very little to do with the adventure. These things
> are supposed to already be planned and saved for. If we were so concerned
> about the cost of a trip, we would never have bought the GMC in the first
> place.
>
> Where else can you take your home with you to stay at relatives, state
> parks, amusement areas or even find an inexpensive or free spot to stop and
> rest the night? Without this machine, you'd be staying in a motel, and if
> you bring your dogs or cats, those choices are limited, and then, they put
> you in a smokers room.
>
> We just need to open our view of how to plan ( Plan is the key word here )
> a trip and prepare for it BEFORE actually leaving for that trip.
>
> Everyone needs that escape, the GMC is the escape vehicle that connects us
> with friends, entertainment and a peaceful retreat. How can you put a price
> on all that???
>
> my thoughts
> --
> Gatsbys' CRUISER :d
> 74 GLACIER X, 260
> 455/APC/4 bagg'r(ver3)
> Remflex Manifold gaskets
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