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| [GMCnet] Re: Steering upper rubber boot [message #363478 is a reply to message #363475] |
Sat, 17 April 2021 12:10   |
James Hupy
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I used a two piece boot off a Offroad long travel Rancho shock for a jacked
up high performance offloaded. Don't remember the number, and did not write
it down. Years ago. Has lasted very well. I too used a dremel tool with a
cut off wheel to index those CV joint pieces. Bad stuff will happen if you
re-assemble it wrong. There a 5 x 4 = 20 wrong ways to reassemble it, and
only 1 correct one.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 8:57 AM wrote:
> Thanks Ken, I'll use a file for marking, old school and lack of power
> tools y'know/ :roll: :o :)
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| [GMCnet] Re: Steering upper rubber boot [message #363479 is a reply to message #363474] |
Sat, 17 April 2021 12:07 |
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Maybe not too late: Did you measure the diameter of the steering column
CV? Looks to me like this CV Boots Joint Replacement Cover Performance
Silicone Rubber Flexible Constant Velocity Joint, 5 inch (125mm) Height
Blue, Fittings - Amazon Canada
is
probably about 2" too big! :-(
IIRC, I've always had to use boots from motorcycle shocks or similar to get
small enough diameters.
Ken H.
On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 11:56 AM wrote:
> JohnL455 wrote on Sat, 17 April 2021 08:39
>> I avoid silicone parts for boots and hoses as poor tear resistance.
> Almost as much as I avoid urethane arm bushings for harshness.
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> Oh well too late now. 8o :d
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> Larry
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| [GMCnet] Re: Steering upper rubber boot [message #363482 is a reply to message #363478] |
Sat, 17 April 2021 12:51 |
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We do not know everything, but we communicate with our counterparts that
work on the GMC MH and have a better idea of what parts work well.
We learn a lot at the International Convention when the presenters teach us
and I do some presentations and get feedback from the members.
Visit our web site and see what is available.
On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 10:11 AM James Hupy wrote:
> I used a two piece boot off a Offroad long travel Rancho shock for a jacked
> up high performance offloaded. Don't remember the number, and did not write
> it down. Years ago. Has lasted very well. I too used a dremel tool with a
> cut off wheel to index those CV joint pieces. Bad stuff will happen if you
> re-assemble it wrong. There a 5 x 4 = 20 wrong ways to reassemble it, and
> only 1 correct one.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
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> On Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 8:57 AM wrote:
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>> Thanks Ken, I'll use a file for marking, old school and lack of power
>> tools y'know/ :roll: :o :)
>>
>> Larry
>> --
>> Larry - Victoria BC -
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>> 1977 Palm Beach VIN TZE167V101295 - 39,000 miles, PO said everything
>> working but forgot the word NOT. New wiper blades, New SS exhaust system
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| [GMCnet] Re: Steering upper rubber boot [message #363486 is a reply to message #363482] |
Sat, 17 April 2021 13:56 |
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I’m going to chime out.....lots of good and better advice than I can add.
On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 10:51 Jim Kanomata wrote:
> We do not know everything, but we communicate with our counterparts that
> work on the GMC MH and have a better idea of what parts work well.
> We learn a lot at the International Convention when the presenters teach us
> and I do some presentations and get feedback from the members.
> Visit our web site and see what is available.
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> On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 10:11 AM James Hupy wrote:
>
>> I used a two piece boot off a Offroad long travel Rancho shock for a
> jacked
>> up high performance offloaded. Don't remember the number, and did not
> write
>> it down. Years ago. Has lasted very well. I too used a dremel tool with a
>> cut off wheel to index those CV joint pieces. Bad stuff will happen if
> you
>> re-assemble it wrong. There a 5 x 4 = 20 wrong ways to reassemble it, and
>> only 1 correct one.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Oregon
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 8:57 AM wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Ken, I'll use a file for marking, old school and lack of power
>>> tools y'know/ :roll: :o :)
>>>
>>> Larry
>>> --
>>> Larry - Victoria BC -
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>>> 1977 Palm Beach VIN TZE167V101295 - 39,000 miles, PO said everything
>>> working but forgot the word NOT. New wiper blades, New SS exhaust
> system
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| Re: [GMCnet] Re: Steering upper rubber boot [message #363489 is a reply to message #363469] |
Sat, 17 April 2021 15:21 |
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Ok out at the coach, blue shaft came out easy boot will fit it can be cut.
The blue coating is damaged on one spline, is this a big deal?
Larry
Larry - Victoria BC -
1977 ex-Palm Beach "Ol' Leaky" 40,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. Atwood helium fridge, water heater & furnace. SS exhaust system, Onan, Iota Converter, R134A, New fuel lines & heat exchange hoses
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| Re: [GMCnet] Re: Steering upper rubber boot [message #363490 is a reply to message #363469] |
Sat, 17 April 2021 15:36 |
boybach
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Ok out at the coach, blue shaft came out easy boot will fit it can be cut.
The blue coating is damaged on one spline, is this a big deal?
Larry
Larry - Victoria BC -
1977 ex-Palm Beach "Ol' Leaky" 40,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. Atwood helium fridge, water heater & furnace. SS exhaust system, Onan, Iota Converter, R134A, New fuel lines & heat exchange hoses
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| [GMCnet] KRe: Re: Steering upper rubber boot [message #363491 is a reply to message #363490] |
Sat, 17 April 2021 15:49 |
James Hupy
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Those shafts are coated with blue unobtainable coating. If you have slop in
that joint, choices are limited to good used off a donor coach, or there
used to be rebuilt ones available. Jim K. at Applied, or perhaps Jim
Bounds in Florida can help with that.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 1:36 PM wrote:
> Ok out at the coach, blue shaft came out easy boot will fit it can be cut.
> The blue coating is damaged on one spline, is this a big deal?
> Larry
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> 1977 Palm Beach VIN TZE167V101295 - 39,000 miles, PO said everything
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| [GMCnet] Re: Steering upper rubber boot [message #363495 is a reply to message #363489] |
Sat, 17 April 2021 19:27 |
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If the shaft can move in and out easily and there is no slop I would not be
super concerned with some damage to the plastic coating. With all of the
coating missing it still will not skip.
My 2c
Sully
Bellevue wa
On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 1:21 PM wrote:
> Ok out at the coach, blue shaft came out easy boot will fit it can be cut.
> The blue coating is damaged on one spline, is this a big deal?
> Larry
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> Larry - Victoria BC -
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> 1977 Palm Beach VIN TZE167V101295 - 39,000 miles, PO said everything
> working but forgot the word NOT. New wiper blades, New SS exhaust system ..
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| Re: Steering upper rubber boot [message #363497 is a reply to message #363409] |
Sat, 17 April 2021 20:17 |
boybach
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Thanks Sully, That's a relief to hear.
Having a ponder on the whole slop issue and reluctant shaft withdrawl scenarios, seemed to me that the main thing that keeps these things stuck is good old suction from the grease. Like I said earlier, we figured if we gave it a couple of days ration of PB Blaster and removed the grease zerk, then the vacuum formed by the grease could be broken. With the zerk removed, air could enter the shaft through the zerk hole and it should come out with no struggle. We did exactly that and it slid out with two fingers.
Thinking about slop just now, seems to me that one way to try and fix any play in the sleeve/shaft is with the old epoxy and grease trick. I'm a big fan of this technique, used it to repair stripped threads many a time. First I'd fix the blue coating with some JB weld, getting the shaft back to spec. If, after that, there's still play in the sleeve, I'd clean out the sleeve and plug up any drain holes or grease nipple threads with grease.
With that all done, I'd give the blue shaft a good smear of grease and pour a bunch of epoxy into the sleeve and shove the shaft in and mop up any extra gipe spilling out of the top. Let it sit for a couple of days and pull out the shaft checking it can move up and down. All good?
Bolt her up.
Larry
Larry - Victoria BC -
1977 ex-Palm Beach "Ol' Leaky" 40,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. Atwood helium fridge, water heater & furnace. SS exhaust system, Onan, Iota Converter, R134A, New fuel lines & heat exchange hoses
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| [GMCnet] Re: Steering upper rubber boot [message #363504 is a reply to message #363497] |
Sun, 18 April 2021 10:12 |
Rob
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I personally can’t imagine a scenario where the suction from the grease could cause enough difference to keep the shaft from coming out. When mine came out - it was FROZEN solid. The shaft had to be driven out from the bottom.
Myself - I’d think carefully about fixing things that may not be issues. “Low hanging fruit” and “choosing your battles carefully”, etc... But, I’m reasonably happy with how my steering “feels” - you mentioned you weren’t quite so happy.
Rob
Victoria, BC
76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath
> On Apr 17, 2021, at 6:18 PM, twlldeen@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thanks Sully, That's a relief to hear.
>
> Having a ponder on the whole slop issue and reluctant shaft withdrawl scenarios, seemed to me that the main thing that keeps these things stuck is
> good old suction from the grease. Like I said earlier, we figured if we gave it a couple of days ration of PB Blaster and removed the grease zerk,
> then the vacuum formed by the grease could be broken. With the zerk removed, air could enter the shaft through the zerk hole and it should come out
> with no struggle. We did exactly that and it slid out with two fingers.
>
> Thinking about slop just now, seems to me that one way to try and fix any play in the sleeve/shaft is with the old epoxy and grease trick. I'm a big
> fan of this technique, used it to repair stripped threads many a time. First I'd fix the blue coating with some JB weld, getting the shaft back to
> spec. If, after that, there's still play in the sleeve, I'd clean out the sleeve and plug up any drain holes or grease nipple threads with grease.
> With that all done, I'd give the blue shaft a good smear of grease and pour a bunch of epoxy into the sleeve and shove the shaft in and mop up any
> extra gipe spilling out of the top. Let it sit for a couple of days and pull out the shaft checking it can move up and down. All good?
>
> Bolt her up.
>
> Larry
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> Larry - Victoria BC -
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> 1977 Palm Beach VIN TZE167V101295 - 39,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. New wiper blades, New SS exhaust system ..
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| [GMCnet] Re: Steering upper rubber boot [message #363505 is a reply to message #363504] |
Sun, 18 April 2021 11:36 |
Keith V
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Same here, mine required a press to get out, and that was after removing the bottom plug.
It had been without a boot for years im sure
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Subject: [GMCnet] Re: Steering upper rubber boot
I personally can’t imagine a scenario where the suction from the grease could cause enough difference to keep the shaft from coming out. When mine came out - it was FROZEN solid. The shaft had to be driven out from the bottom.
Myself - I’d think carefully about fixing things that may not be issues. “Low hanging fruit” and “choosing your battles carefully”, etc... But, I’m reasonably happy with how my steering “feels” - you mentioned you weren’t quite so happy.
Rob
Victoria, BC
76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath
> On Apr 17, 2021, at 6:18 PM, twlldeen@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thanks Sully, That's a relief to hear.
>
> Having a ponder on the whole slop issue and reluctant shaft withdrawl scenarios, seemed to me that the main thing that keeps these things stuck is
> good old suction from the grease. Like I said earlier, we figured if we gave it a couple of days ration of PB Blaster and removed the grease zerk,
> then the vacuum formed by the grease could be broken. With the zerk removed, air could enter the shaft through the zerk hole and it should come out
> with no struggle. We did exactly that and it slid out with two fingers.
>
> Thinking about slop just now, seems to me that one way to try and fix any play in the sleeve/shaft is with the old epoxy and grease trick. I'm a big
> fan of this technique, used it to repair stripped threads many a time. First I'd fix the blue coating with some JB weld, getting the shaft back to
> spec. If, after that, there's still play in the sleeve, I'd clean out the sleeve and plug up any drain holes or grease nipple threads with grease.
> With that all done, I'd give the blue shaft a good smear of grease and pour a bunch of epoxy into the sleeve and shove the shaft in and mop up any
> extra gipe spilling out of the top. Let it sit for a couple of days and pull out the shaft checking it can move up and down. All good?
>
> Bolt her up.
>
> Larry
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> 1977 Palm Beach VIN TZE167V101295 - 39,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. New wiper blades, New SS exhaust system ..
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| Re: Steering upper rubber boot [message #363537 is a reply to message #363409] |
Mon, 19 April 2021 23:34 |
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Happy to report Amazon universal silicone boot is installed and fits rather well. Two top sections to be trimmed after fitting.
Larry
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| Re: Steering upper rubber boot [message #367220 is a reply to message #363409] |
Fri, 15 October 2021 18:41 |
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It's time for me to do this as well. Ken Henderson had commented previously that the upper CV assembly was very hard, and he used a dremel tool to mark it with. Then he suggested installing a grease zerk in the upper assembly for ease of maintenance.
Ken, or anyone, do you have more specifics on drilling for the zerk as far as location and methods used?
Thank you.
Greg Crawford
KM4ZCR
Knoxville, TN
"Ruby Sue"
1977 Royale
Rear Bath
403 Engine
American Eagle Wheels
Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
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| [GMCnet] Re: Steering upper rubber boot [message #367221 is a reply to message #367220] |
Fri, 15 October 2021 19:11 |
Ken Henderson
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Greg,
There are high "bumps" around the circumference of the upper half of the CV
joint. With the steering wheel in the straight-ahead position, mark the
upper most (easiest to access) of those sufficiently to enable you to
identify it after removing and disassembling the CV.
With just the upper 1/2 CV in hand, identify that marked,
most-easily-accessible, location. On the inside of the housing, identify a
"non-functional" area -- that's where you want to drill and install the
Zerk fitting from the outside.
This procedure should result in the Zerk being right where you want it to
be when you're greasing -- at the tops of the steering column pointed right
at you.
HTH,
Ken H.
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:41 PM Greg Crawford
wrote:
> It's time for me to do this as well. Ken Henderson had commented
> previously that the upper CV assembly was very hard, and he used a dremel
> tool to
> mark it with. Then he suggested installing a grease zerk in the upper
> assembly for ease of maintenance.
>
> Ken, or anyone, do you have more specifics on drilling for the zerk as far
> as location and methods used?
>
> Thank you.
> --
> Greg Crawford
> KM4ZCR
> Knoxville, TN
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> "Ruby Sue"
> 1977 Royale
> Rear Bath
> 403 Engine
> American Eagle Wheels
> Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
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| [GMCnet] Re: Steering upper rubber boot [message #367222 is a reply to message #367221] |
Fri, 15 October 2021 19:54 |
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Why don't you contact us as we carry all parts for the coach and Nick and I
will instruct you as to how to install.
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 5:12 PM Ken Henderson
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> Greg,
>
> There are high "bumps" around the circumference of the upper half of the CV
> joint. With the steering wheel in the straight-ahead position, mark the
> upper most (easiest to access) of those sufficiently to enable you to
> identify it after removing and disassembling the CV.
>
> With just the upper 1/2 CV in hand, identify that marked,
> most-easily-accessible, location. On the inside of the housing, identify a
> "non-functional" area -- that's where you want to drill and install the
> Zerk fitting from the outside.
>
> This procedure should result in the Zerk being right where you want it to
> be when you're greasing -- at the tops of the steering column pointed right
> at you.
>
> HTH,
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:41 PM Greg Crawford
> wrote:
>
>> It's time for me to do this as well. Ken Henderson had commented
>> previously that the upper CV assembly was very hard, and he used a dremel
>> tool to
>> mark it with. Then he suggested installing a grease zerk in the upper
>> assembly for ease of maintenance.
>>
>> Ken, or anyone, do you have more specifics on drilling for the zerk as
> far
>> as location and methods used?
>>
>> Thank you.
>> --
>> Greg Crawford
>> KM4ZCR
>> Knoxville, TN
>>
>> "Ruby Sue"
>> 1977 Royale
>> Rear Bath
>> 403 Engine
>> American Eagle Wheels
>> Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
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| [GMCnet] Re: Steering upper rubber boot [message #367223 is a reply to message #367221] |
Sat, 16 October 2021 04:09 |
Ken Henderson
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While trying to go back to sleep at 3AM, an old, perhaps important, memory
emerged from the depths of my old brain: Some years back we had a thread
here about the fact that water can enter the ball/race housing of the upper
steering CV joint. The steering column shaft opening in the top of the
joint extends all the way into the housing, allowing water to seep past the
shaft, into the cavity, and fomenting rust on the balls and races.
A recommendation was to seal the shaft with silicone. I chose a different
method: I had some 1/16" thick pliable plastic (Nylon?) from which I cut a
disc the diameter of the shaft's major diameter. Using a driver just under
the minor diameter of the shaft, I drove that disc into the bottom of the
shaft cavity. The splines in the housing cut into the disc, sealing the
bottom of the cavity. With that seal and the Zerk to keep the cavity
filled with grease I haven't had to open the CV during the past 12-15
years.
HTH,
Ken H.
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 8:11 PM Ken Henderson
wrote:
> Greg,
>
> There are high "bumps" around the circumference of the upper half of the
> CV joint. With the steering wheel in the straight-ahead position, mark the
> upper most (easiest to access) of those sufficiently to enable you to
> identify it after removing and disassembling the CV.
>
> With just the upper 1/2 CV in hand, identify that marked,
> most-easily-accessible, location. On the inside of the housing, identify a
> "non-functional" area -- that's where you want to drill and install the
> Zerk fitting from the outside.
>
> This procedure should result in the Zerk being right where you want it to
> be when you're greasing -- at the tops of the steering column pointed right
> at you.
>
> HTH,
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:41 PM Greg Crawford
> wrote:
>
>> It's time for me to do this as well. Ken Henderson had commented
>> previously that the upper CV assembly was very hard, and he used a dremel
>> tool to
>> mark it with. Then he suggested installing a grease zerk in the upper
>> assembly for ease of maintenance.
>>
>> Ken, or anyone, do you have more specifics on drilling for the zerk as
>> far as location and methods used?
>>
>> Thank you.
>> --
>> Greg Crawford
>> KM4ZCR
>> Knoxville, TN
>>
>> "Ruby Sue"
>> 1977 Royale
>> Rear Bath
>> 403 Engine
>> American Eagle Wheels
>> Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
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| [GMCnet] Re: Steering upper rubber boot [message #367224 is a reply to message #367223] |
Sat, 16 October 2021 09:52 |
James Hupy
Messages: 6806
Registered: May 2010
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Ken, Oh, so many thank you's. I thought I was the only one that had
"mid-night" visits from the Mechanics Muse. Good to know that I'm not
completely nuts 😜! That seal information is very good. Someone out there
will very likely put your suggestion to good use. Thanks for sharing.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 2:10 AM Ken Henderson wrote:
> While trying to go back to sleep at 3AM, an old, perhaps important, memory
> emerged from the depths of my old brain: Some years back we had a thread
> here about the fact that water can enter the ball/race housing of the upper
> steering CV joint. The steering column shaft opening in the top of the
> joint extends all the way into the housing, allowing water to seep past the
> shaft, into the cavity, and fomenting rust on the balls and races.
>
> A recommendation was to seal the shaft with silicone. I chose a different
> method: I had some 1/16" thick pliable plastic (Nylon?) from which I cut a
> disc the diameter of the shaft's major diameter. Using a driver just under
> the minor diameter of the shaft, I drove that disc into the bottom of the
> shaft cavity. The splines in the housing cut into the disc, sealing the
> bottom of the cavity. With that seal and the Zerk to keep the cavity
> filled with grease I haven't had to open the CV during the past 12-15
> years.
>
> HTH,
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 8:11 PM Ken Henderson
> wrote:
>
>> Greg,
>>
>> There are high "bumps" around the circumference of the upper half of the
>> CV joint. With the steering wheel in the straight-ahead position, mark
> the
>> upper most (easiest to access) of those sufficiently to enable you to
>> identify it after removing and disassembling the CV.
>>
>> With just the upper 1/2 CV in hand, identify that marked,
>> most-easily-accessible, location. On the inside of the housing,
> identify a
>> "non-functional" area -- that's where you want to drill and install the
>> Zerk fitting from the outside.
>>
>> This procedure should result in the Zerk being right where you want it to
>> be when you're greasing -- at the tops of the steering column pointed
> right
>> at you.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:41 PM Greg Crawford captgregcrawford@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It's time for me to do this as well. Ken Henderson had commented
>>> previously that the upper CV assembly was very hard, and he used a
> dremel
>>> tool to
>>> mark it with. Then he suggested installing a grease zerk in the upper
>>> assembly for ease of maintenance.
>>>
>>> Ken, or anyone, do you have more specifics on drilling for the zerk as
>>> far as location and methods used?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>> --
>>> Greg Crawford
>>> KM4ZCR
>>> Knoxville, TN
>>>
>>> "Ruby Sue"
>>> 1977 Royale
>>> Rear Bath
>>> 403 Engine
>>> American Eagle Wheels
>>> Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
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| [GMCnet] Re: Steering upper rubber boot [message #367226 is a reply to message #367224] |
Sat, 16 October 2021 11:10 |
Sandra Price
Messages: 709
Registered: May 2006
Karma: 1
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We sold our GMC, but still have it "in our blood". I read Ken and Jim H's
emails about the steering shaft to Bob. While he is having trouble
expressing thoughts, he understood and knew about the issue and thinks your
solution was a good one, Ken. And he has those middle of the night sleep
breaks like both of you.
Sure miss those good times.
Sandra
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 9:52 AM James Hupy wrote:
> Ken, Oh, so many thank you's. I thought I was the only one that had
> "mid-night" visits from the Mechanics Muse. Good to know that I'm not
> completely nuts 😜! That seal information is very good. Someone out there
> will very likely put your suggestion to good use. Thanks for sharing.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 2:10 AM Ken Henderson
> wrote:
>
>> While trying to go back to sleep at 3AM, an old, perhaps important,
> memory
>> emerged from the depths of my old brain: Some years back we had a thread
>> here about the fact that water can enter the ball/race housing of the
> upper
>> steering CV joint. The steering column shaft opening in the top of the
>> joint extends all the way into the housing, allowing water to seep past
> the
>> shaft, into the cavity, and fomenting rust on the balls and races.
>>
>> A recommendation was to seal the shaft with silicone. I chose a
> different
>> method: I had some 1/16" thick pliable plastic (Nylon?) from which I
> cut a
>> disc the diameter of the shaft's major diameter. Using a driver just
> under
>> the minor diameter of the shaft, I drove that disc into the bottom of the
>> shaft cavity. The splines in the housing cut into the disc, sealing the
>> bottom of the cavity. With that seal and the Zerk to keep the cavity
>> filled with grease I haven't had to open the CV during the past 12-15
>> years.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 8:11 PM Ken Henderson
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Greg,
>>>
>>> There are high "bumps" around the circumference of the upper half of
> the
>>> CV joint. With the steering wheel in the straight-ahead position, mark
>> the
>>> upper most (easiest to access) of those sufficiently to enable you to
>>> identify it after removing and disassembling the CV.
>>>
>>> With just the upper 1/2 CV in hand, identify that marked,
>>> most-easily-accessible, location. On the inside of the housing,
>> identify a
>>> "non-functional" area -- that's where you want to drill and install the
>>> Zerk fitting from the outside.
>>>
>>> This procedure should result in the Zerk being right where you want it
> to
>>> be when you're greasing -- at the tops of the steering column pointed
>> right
>>> at you.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>> Ken H.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:41 PM Greg Crawford > captgregcrawford@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's time for me to do this as well. Ken Henderson had commented
>>>> previously that the upper CV assembly was very hard, and he used a
>> dremel
>>>> tool to
>>>> mark it with. Then he suggested installing a grease zerk in the upper
>>>> assembly for ease of maintenance.
>>>>
>>>> Ken, or anyone, do you have more specifics on drilling for the zerk as
>>>> far as location and methods used?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> --
>>>> Greg Crawford
>>>> KM4ZCR
>>>> Knoxville, TN
>>>>
>>>> "Ruby Sue"
>>>> 1977 Royale
>>>> Rear Bath
>>>> 403 Engine
>>>> American Eagle Wheels
>>>> Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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| [GMCnet] Re: Steering upper rubber boot [message #367227 is a reply to message #367226] |
Sat, 16 October 2021 12:04 |
Ken Henderson
Messages: 8726
Registered: March 2004
Location: Americus, GA
Karma: 9
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Sandra,
Sure glad Bob (and you) can still "harmonize" with us. Sure wish we could
see Y'All, but since we can't, Best Regards to Him & Hugs to You. :-)
Ken
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 12:10 PM Sandra Price wrote:
> We sold our GMC, but still have it "in our blood". I read Ken and Jim H's
> emails about the steering shaft to Bob. While he is having trouble
> expressing thoughts, he understood and knew about the issue and thinks your
> solution was a good one, Ken. And he has those middle of the night sleep
> breaks like both of you.
>
> Sure miss those good times.
>
> Sandra
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 9:52 AM James Hupy wrote:
>
>> Ken, Oh, so many thank you's. I thought I was the only one that had
>> "mid-night" visits from the Mechanics Muse. Good to know that I'm not
>> completely nuts 😜! That seal information is very good. Someone out
> there
>> will very likely put your suggestion to good use. Thanks for sharing.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Oregon
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 2:10 AM Ken Henderson
>> wrote:
>>
>>> While trying to go back to sleep at 3AM, an old, perhaps important,
>> memory
>>> emerged from the depths of my old brain: Some years back we had a
> thread
>>> here about the fact that water can enter the ball/race housing of the
>> upper
>>> steering CV joint. The steering column shaft opening in the top of the
>>> joint extends all the way into the housing, allowing water to seep past
>> the
>>> shaft, into the cavity, and fomenting rust on the balls and races.
>>>
>>> A recommendation was to seal the shaft with silicone. I chose a
>> different
>>> method: I had some 1/16" thick pliable plastic (Nylon?) from which I
>> cut a
>>> disc the diameter of the shaft's major diameter. Using a driver just
>> under
>>> the minor diameter of the shaft, I drove that disc into the bottom of
> the
>>> shaft cavity. The splines in the housing cut into the disc, sealing
> the
>>> bottom of the cavity. With that seal and the Zerk to keep the cavity
>>> filled with grease I haven't had to open the CV during the past 12-15
>>> years.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>> Ken H.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 8:11 PM Ken Henderson
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Greg,
>>>>
>>>> There are high "bumps" around the circumference of the upper half of
>> the
>>>> CV joint. With the steering wheel in the straight-ahead position,
> mark
>>> the
>>>> upper most (easiest to access) of those sufficiently to enable you to
>>>> identify it after removing and disassembling the CV.
>>>>
>>>> With just the upper 1/2 CV in hand, identify that marked,
>>>> most-easily-accessible, location. On the inside of the housing,
>>> identify a
>>>> "non-functional" area -- that's where you want to drill and install
> the
>>>> Zerk fitting from the outside.
>>>>
>>>> This procedure should result in the Zerk being right where you want
> it
>> to
>>>> be when you're greasing -- at the tops of the steering column pointed
>>> right
>>>> at you.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>>
>>>> Ken H.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:41 PM Greg Crawford >> captgregcrawford@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > It's time for me to do this as well. Ken Henderson had commented
>>>> > previously that the upper CV assembly was very hard, and he used a
>>> dremel
>>>> > tool to
>>>> > mark it with. Then he suggested installing a grease zerk in the
> upper
>>>> > assembly for ease of maintenance.
>>>> >
>>>> > Ken, or anyone, do you have more specifics on drilling for the zerk
> as
>>>> > far as location and methods used?
>>>> >
>>>> > Thank you.
>>>> > --
>>>> > Greg Crawford
>>>> > KM4ZCR
>>>> > Knoxville, TN
>>>> >
>>>> > "Ruby Sue"
>>>> > 1977 Royale
>>>> > Rear Bath
>>>> > 403 Engine
>>>> > American Eagle Wheels
>>>> > Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > GMCnet mailing list
>>>> > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>>> >
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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www.gmcwipersetc.com
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