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| Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions [message #320151 is a reply to message #320146] |
Sat, 08 July 2017 09:42   |
jimk
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We stock the bags for all as people need hem in a rush. Contrary to belief
, there are too many configurations of same style.
When you get a chance to visit our web site, you'll realize were not a
hobby shop.
We have 3 people that handle tech support as well.
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 6:20 AM, Joe williams wrote:
> WOW! Thanks to all for your advice/opinions, didn't think I would get such
> a great response, I think I'll just go with a split boot for now since it
> sounds the easiest/fastest and I can get her back on the road. if it
> doesn't hold up I can redo it later.
>
> Ken, what is a double wrap clamp? do I need to get a special tool to use
> them?
>
> Tom, I found on one of your old posts that you used Dorman 03609 ,did you
> use the clamps that came with it?
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> and do you know what bag is used on the Harrison system and where I can
> get a spare to keep in the coach.
>
> Thanks again to all, so great to be able to get such good advice so
> quickly and look forward to meeting some of you at a rally soon.
>
> Joe
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| Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions [message #320154 is a reply to message #320146] |
Sat, 08 July 2017 12:07 |
Ken Henderson
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Joe,
Double-wrap clamps do require a special tool, which can be had for $150. The simplest, cheapest one is fine. They're really just a simple[/color]
strip of 1/4" wide stainless steel with a special buckle to secure the
ends. When installed, the inner loop of SS provides a low-friction surface
for the outer loop to slide on as the band is tightened. That causes the
securing force to be applied perpendicular to the rubber, preventing
"puckering". Ordinary single-wrap clamps tend to move the rubber parallel
to the clamp, causing it to bunch up and create leakage-ways. Also, the
buckles are very low profile so there's less danger of them striking fixed
objects.
If you have to buy bulk band and buckles, it's a little expensive, but
you'll find a lot of uses for them besides CV boots, making the average
cost per use very reasonable. Here's my source:
https://www.mcmaster.com/#hose-banding/=18erplk
Band: 5422K53
Buckles: 5422K67
Tool: http://www.lislecorp.com/divisions/products/?product=164
or: https://www.napaonline.com/p/SER30950 (you may have to search for
that PN)
NAPA used to carry #3415 for the small clamp and 3416 for the large on, or
3401 for a 10-clamp kit. I no longer find those on line.
If you're forced to use one of the more popular "squeeze to lock"
single-wrap clamps, I'd recommend lubricating the inside of the clamp to
minimize puckering.
Ken H.
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Joe williams wrote:
> ...
>
> Ken, what is a double wrap clamp? do I need to get a special tool to use
> them?
>
...
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| Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions [message #320160 is a reply to message #320154] |
Sat, 08 July 2017 13:17 |
Bruce Hart
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Ken
Put a UJ in front of the clamp number. Last fall I bought a box of 10 from
my Napa Store.
Now try to find an inner cv boot for the drive shaft.
UJ3416
UJ3415
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/UJQUJ3416
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Ken Henderson
wrote:
> Joe,
>
> Double-wrap clamps do require a special tool, which can be had for > $150. The simplest, cheapest one is fine. They're really just a simple
> strip of 1/4" wide stainless steel with a special buckle to secure the
> ends. When installed, the inner loop of SS provides a low-friction surface
> for the outer loop to slide on as the band is tightened. That causes the
> securing force to be applied perpendicular to the rubber, preventing
> "puckering". Ordinary single-wrap clamps tend to move the rubber parallel
> to the clamp, causing it to bunch up and create leakage-ways. Also, the
> buckles are very low profile so there's less danger of them striking fixed
> objects.
>
> If you have to buy bulk band and buckles, it's a little expensive, but
> you'll find a lot of uses for them besides CV boots, making the average
> cost per use very reasonable. Here's my source:
>
> https://www.mcmaster.com/#hose-banding/=18erplk
>
> Band: 5422K53
> Buckles: 5422K67
> Tool: http://www.lislecorp.com/divisions/products/?product=164
> or: https://www.napaonline.com/p/SER30950 (you may have to search
> for
> that PN)
>
> NAPA used to carry #3415 for the small clamp and 3416 for the large on, or
> 3401 for a 10-clamp kit. I no longer find those on line.
>
> If you're forced to use one of the more popular "squeeze to lock"
> single-wrap clamps, I'd recommend lubricating the inside of the clamp to
> minimize puckering.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Joe williams wrote:
>
>> ...
>>
>> Ken, what is a double wrap clamp? do I need to get a special tool to use
>> them?
>>
> ...
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| Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions [message #320170 is a reply to message #320160] |
Sat, 08 July 2017 15:46 |
Ken Henderson
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By golly, that worked. Wonder why they don't give any specifications other
than "1/4" wide"?
Ken H.
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Bruce Hart wrote:
> Ken
> Put a UJ in front of the clamp number. Last fall I bought a box of 10 from
> my Napa Store.
> Now try to find an inner cv boot for the drive shaft.
> UJ3416
> UJ3415
> https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/UJQUJ3416
>
> On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Ken Henderson
> wrote:
> ...
>> NAPA used to carry #3415 for the small clamp and 3416 for the large on,
> or
>> 3401 for a 10-clamp kit. I no longer find those on line.
> ...
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions [message #320174 is a reply to message #320170] |
Sat, 08 July 2017 18:31 |
Bruce Hart
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Napa did a redo on their web page and for myself it was a bit hard at first
to navigate.
To find a part I go to Parts and Accessories, this gives a drop down menu
and I select the category, than a sub-category that the part would most
likely be in. Than if I have a part number I will put that into the search
box.
Example, if I want to look up Optima batteries I would click on Parts and
Accessories, than electrical, followed by sub-category batteries. Now I
put Optima in search panel and get the listing of what Optima batteries are
available.
By the way the UJ stands for u-joint. Who would have thought!
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Ken Henderson
wrote:
> By golly, that worked. Wonder why they don't give any specifications other
> than "1/4" wide"?
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Bruce Hart wrote:
>
>> Ken
>> Put a UJ in front of the clamp number. Last fall I bought a box of 10
> from
>> my Napa Store.
>> Now try to find an inner cv boot for the drive shaft.
>> UJ3416
>> UJ3415
>> https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/UJQUJ3416
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Ken Henderson
>> wrote:
>> ...
>>> NAPA used to carry #3415 for the small clamp and 3416 for the large on,
>> or
>>> 3401 for a 10-clamp kit. I no longer find those on line.
>> ...
>>
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| Re: new owner questions [message #320196 is a reply to message #320092] |
Sun, 09 July 2017 07:56 |
jhbridges
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Any time you do a single weight clamp - radiator hose, CV joint, etc.,take a small hammer - soft face if you have one - and tap around the entire joint while you tighten the clamp. This reduces the tendancy for the rubber to bunch up under the clamp.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions [message #320200 is a reply to message #320196] |
Sun, 09 July 2017 09:06 |
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Good idea!
The Project Apollo Portable Life Support System had beaded end aluminum metal tubing that water and oxygen flowed through. They were
joined together with silicone tube "unions" clamped with stainless steel ratcheting band clamps. To assure the stainless steel
clamps exerted the same force around the entire OD two layers of Teflon tape were wrapped around the silicone rubber tubes.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Johnny Bridges via Gmclist
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 10:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions
Any time you do a single weight clamp - radiator hose, CV joint, etc.,take a small hammer - soft face if you have one - and tap
around the entire joint while you tighten the clamp. This reduces the tendancy for the rubber to bunch up under the clamp.
--johnny
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| Re: [GMCnet] New Owner Questions [message #320653 is a reply to message #320094] |
Tue, 18 July 2017 11:45 |
James Hupy
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Funny thing about steel. It flexes. If it didn't, it would break. It does
have a point of elasticity though. Exceed it, bad stuff happens. Years ago,
I had the opportunity to sit through a presentation by the fellow that
engineered the space needle in Seattle. The main three supporting beams
that are the support frame of the structure were originally straight beams.
They were curved to shape using large "rosebud" oxy/acetylene torches under
the watchful eye of the lead engineer. Amazing how much those beams are
curved. I am ever mindful of that every time I weld or heat metal. If you
put heat on one side, you had better put some on the other side as well. I
don't think there is any way to keep it in place while you weld it, you
just have to tack it together, then go back and finish after the assembly
is all tacked. MAYBE THAT IS WHY THE GMC FRAME IS BOLTED, NOT WELDED
TOGETHER. I don't know if that is the reason for sure, but that's my story,
and I'm sticking to it. I'm sure that ease of replacement and assembly
figure in there somewhere, probably cost also.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Jul 18, 2017 9:23 AM, "Hal StClair" wrote:
Gee, just look at what a single adjective like 'flimsy'can do. :lol:
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| Re: [GMCnet] New Owner Questions [message #320660 is a reply to message #320654] |
Tue, 18 July 2017 19:32 |
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Peer,
I Googled Bending Aluminum Extrusions and a number of You Tube video's popped up. One of them used a Harbor Freight bender and
worked OK on some extrusions, however, it depended on the extrusion and the way it was bent.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
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USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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Any engineer in here know if and how one could bend aluminum profiles,
like http://klusdesign.eu/produkty/profile-led ?
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