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Re: [GMCnet] lower steering shaft complete new replacement [message #308151 is a reply to message #308138] Sun, 02 October 2016 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Karen et al,

Alex Ferrara has developed a procedure to rebuild the OEM units.

You can contact him on:

Cell: 386-986-8886
Email: lmeyer7436@aol.com

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USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

-----Original Message-----
From: KB

Hey Hal, just revisiting this idea. You've had your Borgeson setup for a year or more. How do you like it?

thanks,
Karen



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Re: [GMCnet] lower steering shaft complete new replacement [message #308171 is a reply to message #308138] Sun, 02 October 2016 22:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Karen, all seems good with the parts. Have a little more than 5000 miles on them and steering is fine with no adverse effects.😀 Hal .



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Re: [GMCnet] lower steering shaft complete new replacement [message #308187 is a reply to message #308171] Mon, 03 October 2016 11:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KB is currently offline  KB   United States
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Hal StClair wrote on Sun, 02 October 2016 20:19
Karen, all seems good with the parts. Have a little more than 5000 miles on them and steering is fine with no adverse effects.😀 Hal .



Thanks Hal, that's terrific. I'm sick of trying to make the old floppy greasy heavy monstrosity work,
and no matter how hard I try, I can't get the lower pinch bolt to really grip. Even tried changing
the steering box recently hoping it would help but it made zero difference. I'm pretty sure now the
remaining sloppiness is in the intermediate shaft, and I'm done messing with it.

thanks,
Karen
1975 26' expensive patience tester
Re: [GMCnet] lower steering shaft complete new replacement [message #308246 is a reply to message #308187] Tue, 04 October 2016 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Karen,

I'll buy your OEM lower steering shaft assembly and CV joint; how much do you want for it?

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Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426


-----Original Message-----
From: KB

Thanks Hal, that's terrific. I'm sick of trying to make the old floppy greasy heavy monstrosity work,
and no matter how hard I try, I can't get the lower pinch bolt to really grip. Even tried changing
the steering box recently hoping it would help but it made zero difference. I'm pretty sure now the
remaining sloppiness is in the intermediate shaft, and I'm done messing with it.

thanks,
Karen


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Re: [GMCnet] lower steering shaft complete new replacement [message #308314 is a reply to message #308246] Wed, 05 October 2016 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KB is currently offline  KB   United States
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USAussie wrote on Tue, 04 October 2016 06:29
Karen,

I'll buy your OEM lower steering shaft assembly and CV joint; how much do you want for it?



I'll wait to see how we like the borgeson solution before getting rid of the old one.
You'll probably have offers from other folks who have spare intermediate shafts lying around before then.

thanks,
Karen
1975 26'

Re: [GMCnet] lower steering shaft complete new replacement [message #308321 is a reply to message #308314] Wed, 05 October 2016 21:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Okie Dokie!

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USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

-----Original Message-----
From: KB

I'll wait to see how we like the borgeson solution before getting rid of the old one.
You'll probably have offers from other folks who have spare intermediate shafts lying around before then.

thanks,
Karen


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Re: [GMCnet] lower steering shaft complete new replacement [message #348920 is a reply to message #265311] Sat, 05 October 2019 01:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JR Williams is currently offline  JR Williams   United States
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Hello everybody.

I'm curious, after much time on the road, how everyone who made the Borgeson switch feel about it?

Any pros and cons?

Does the vibration damper matter?

Looking to do the same.

Thanks for your time.

JR Williams


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Re: [GMCnet] lower steering shaft complete new replacement [message #348925 is a reply to message #348920] Sat, 05 October 2019 08:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I changed out to the Borgeson setup about two thousand miles ago and am very happy with it. The original shaft was so sloppy you would be pumping the steering wheel back and forth 4 inches to keep it on a straight road.
This new shaft works like a charm.

When you ask about a vibration damper, are you refering to the sliding shaft part? If so, the Borgeson has that.
Cheers.


Shane Harvey 1973 26' "Packer Backer", 1976 Palm Beach, 1965 Dart
Re: [GMCnet] lower steering shaft complete new replacement [message #348930 is a reply to message #348920] Sat, 05 October 2019 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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After about 8000 miles with the Borgeson set up I have nothing but good things to say about it. Took me about 30 minutes to cut the shaft, as per instructions on the Borgeson site, (important), and assemble the unit on the bench, and about another 30 minutes to center the system and install. The toughest part of the job was removing the old unit!
The ease of accurately centering the steering system has to be one of the advantages of this system as well as no ongoing lubrication requirements. Although the D shaft is pre-lubed and has a seal on the sliding part,I did plug the exposed top of the D shaft with silicone to prevent water running down the inside of the shaft.


Norm.
Re: [GMCnet] lower steering shaft complete new replacement [message #348935 is a reply to message #348930] Sat, 05 October 2019 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil Roach is currently offline  Neil Roach   United States
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I’ve been running the Burgeson steering now for 2 seasons and it performs perfectly, just like it has on all the other car projects I’ve built. Easy to put together the pieces and probably a third of the GMC cost.

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> On Oct 5, 2019, at 10:03 AM, Norman Allinson via Gmclist wrote:
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> After about 8000 miles with the Borgeson set up I have nothing but good things to say about it. Took me about 30 minutes to cut the shaft, as per
> instructions on the Borgeson site, (important), and assemble the unit on the bench, and about another 30 minutes to center the system and install. The
> toughest part of the job was removing the old unit!
> The ease of accurately centering the steering system has to be one of the advantages of this system as well as no ongoing lubrication requirements.
> Although the D shaft is pre-lubed and has a seal on the sliding part,I did plug the exposed top of the D shaft with silicone to prevent water running
> down the inside of the shaft.
> --
> Norm.
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Re: [GMCnet] lower steering shaft complete new replacement [message #349121 is a reply to message #265311] Wed, 09 October 2019 17:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JR Williams is currently offline  JR Williams   United States
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Parts arrived today and installed. Took me all of an hour.

WOW, what a difference!!

My old shaft was welded shut and I could feel every rock in the road. Not only that but getting it apart I broke a piece out of the velocity joint. Now it's incredibly smooth and almost a pleasure to drive. Need to find a local guy to get the whole rig aligned and I'll be set.

ROCK!!

JR Williams


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Re: [GMCnet] lower steering shaft complete new replacement [message #349127 is a reply to message #349121] Thu, 10 October 2019 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Justin Brady is currently offline  Justin Brady   United States
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I have the parts to rebuild mine but I went ahead and ordered the Borgenson parts because this seems like a better solution.
I'm excited!


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Re: [GMCnet] lower steering shaft complete new replacement [message #349130 is a reply to message #349121] Thu, 10 October 2019 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JR Williams wrote on Wed, 09 October 2019 17:27
!,,almost a pleasure to drive.

ROCK!!

JR Williams
JR
LOL Your positive out look is inspiring. Let me know if you find a local guy or what else you do to improve the drivability.


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Re: [GMCnet] lower steering shaft complete new replacement [message #349145 is a reply to message #349130] Thu, 10 October 2019 16:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill Van Vlack is currently offline  Bill Van Vlack   United States
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Works for me! Couple thousand miles on it so far.

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Re: [GMCnet] lower steering shaft complete new replacement [message #349176 is a reply to message #265311] Fri, 11 October 2019 20:46 Go to previous message
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25,000+ and happy but I used a double joint and heim joint support because of the longer later model pickup column I used.(not much original on my rig Laughing ) Hal

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