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USAussie
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Larry,
Here's a link to the correct "grease" on Radio Shack's website:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102858
They also have this compound:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2436169#showFullReviews
This is the stuff I used when I replaced my ignition module:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2216879&locale=en_US
According to the reviews it is mo betta and maybe even the most bestest!
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: Larry
My memory is getting foggy, so refresh it please. IIRC, there is a specific grease that should be used under the ignition module in
the distributor, and some stuff that should not be used. Please remind me...what is what?
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Larry :)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Poll: Do you use and carry dielectric grease in yourRV? [message #239880 is a reply to message #239858] |
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USAussie
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Mike,
I Googled "ONI" but that didn't yield anything of any use so I give up what does ONI stand for?
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Rob M.
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USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: mike foster
BellSouth used these in outside plant terminals. They work well. LPS II works just as well but is flammable. The LPS worked so well,
you could spray it inside an ONI on front beach Folly, come back in 4 years and have ZERO corrosion, no bugs, spiders or anything
other than sand inside the ONI.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Do you use and carry dielectric grease in your RV? [message #239905 is a reply to message #239853] |
Thu, 13 February 2014 17:37 |
jhbridges
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What you want under it is heatsink compound. Radio Shack has it in small pakcets. The best is the really sticky white version. We buy it by the syringeful and it costs less than ten bux for what equates out to a year's supply in our (electronics) shop. It is intended to give a good heat coupling from the module to where it's mounted to dissipate the heat the module generates. Its greasing and/or electric abilities really don't matter.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
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From: Larry <weidnerl@wwt.net>
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Do you use and carry dielectric grease in your RV?
My memory is getting foggy, so refresh it please. IIRC, there is a specific grease that should be used under the ignition module in the distributor, and some stuff that should not be used. Please remind me...what is what?
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Larry :)
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Poll: Do you use and carry dielectric grease in yourRV? [message #239913 is a reply to message #239894] |
Thu, 13 February 2014 18:12 |
jhbridges
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I found out early on, if you spoke Bell you could get the techs to do what you wanted.... much like speaking vi to Unix hacks. And if you make a rally same time as me, I'll share a six pack's worth of Mother Bell horror stories. (For the uninitiated, Mother Bell and the broadcasters were usually Not On Speaking Terms back in the regulated days)
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
Braselton georgia
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From: mike foster <mafoster1@bellsouth.net>
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Poll: Do you use and carry dielectric grease in yourRV?
Outside Network Interface. Before the feds decided they knew better how to run the telecom in the states we called it a protector...because that was/is where the lightning protection is located. Prior to 1979 we used carbon discs with a .003" air gap between the tip & ring and ground. Beginning in 1979 we used inert gas carbons in all locations, prior to this the gas units were only used in proven high lightning strike locations.
Google didn't cover it. Cool (like Steve McQueen).....as opposed to 'kewl' (like Justin Beiber)!
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| Re: [GMCnet] Poll: Do you use and carry dielectric grease in yourRV? [message #239926 is a reply to message #239925] |
Thu, 13 February 2014 19:49 |
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Heat conductive silicone (with an e) white
grease is what we used to put under transistors in big
computer power supplies. They put out 1000amps at 5 volts.
Then somebody invented a heat conductive silicone pad insulator
that was less messy. And it was easier to assemble under the power transistors.
Dielectric grease is what the building inspector told me I
needed under the aluminum wire connection going to my stove.
I guess it couldn't hurt to use in the motorhome if dissimilar metals
are used in an electrical connection.
Bill Wevers GMC49ers, GMC Western States
1975 Glenbrook - Manny Powerdrive, OneTon
455 F Block, G heads
San Jose
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| Re: [GMCnet] Poll: Do you use and carry dielectric grease in yourRV? [message #239930 is a reply to message #239925] |
Thu, 13 February 2014 20:18 |
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USAussie
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Mike,
Thanks for explaining ONI.
Sure hope you and Johnny spare us gear heads the sneaker head stuff and take it off net. ;-)
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: mike foster
I think you should share some of them here!! I'll even start the thread with one from my marketing days.
Johnny Bridges wrote on Thu, 13 February 2014 18:12
> I found out early on, if you spoke Bell you could get the techs to do what you wanted.... much like speaking vi to Unix hacks.
And if you make a rally same time as me, I'll share a six pack's worth of Mother Bell horror stories. (For the uninitiated, Mother
Bell and the broadcasters were usually Not On Speaking Terms back in the regulated days)
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> --johnny
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> From: mike foster <mafoster1@bellsouth.net>
> Outside Network Interface. Before the feds decided they knew better how to run the telecom in the states we called it a
protector...because that was/is where the lightning protection is located. Prior to 1979 we used carbon discs with a .003" air gap
between the tip & ring and ground. Beginning in 1979 we used inert gas carbons in all locations, prior to this the gas units were
only used in proven high lightning strike locations.
>
> Google didn't cover it. Cool (like Steve McQueen).....as opposed to 'kewl' (like Justin Beiber)!
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Poll: Do you use and carry dielectric grease in yourRV? [message #239939 is a reply to message #239926] |
Thu, 13 February 2014 21:21 |
jhbridges
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The aluminum wire stuff is conductive. The heat conductive may or may not be, but shouldn't be used on aluminum wire at all. For what it's worth, I will not live in a house wired in aluminum, regardless what the electrician used on the connections. Personal preference after watching a couple of them catch fire. When our first house was built after she abnd I got married, I took the electrician a 250 foot roll of 12/2 and ground copper and a hundred feet of 10/2 and ground and had him use that, as did one other guy in the subdivision. They are the only two houses there which haven't had to be rewired over the years.
The Quincy Tinworks (Harris Broadcast) went to the heat pads on their RF pallets in a family of transistor radios and solved a longterm problem we were having with dissimilar metal expansion making the RF devices' pallets loosen from their heat sinks. If we didn't tighten them every six months or so, they would overtemp and eat the devices. Just as the distributor modules in the GMC will go Dixie of they aren't kept cool. The difference being, the RF devices are about $175 each and they blow two at a time.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
Braselton GA
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From: Bill Wevers <gmc1975@att.net>
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Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Poll: Do you use and carry dielectric grease in yourRV?
Heat conductive silicone (with an e) white
grease is what we used to put under transistors in big
computer power supplies. They put out 1000amps at 5 volts.
Then somebody invented a heat conductive silicone pad insulator
that was less messy. And it was easier to assemble under the power transistors.
Dielectric grease is what the building inspector told me I
needed under the aluminum wire connection going to my stove.
I guess it couldn't hurt to use in the motorhome if dissimilar metals
are used in an electrical connection.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Poll: Do you use and carry dielectric grease in yourRV? [message #239943 is a reply to message #239930] |
Thu, 13 February 2014 21:35 |
jhbridges
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Oh, I did already. Not germaine to the GMC much.
--jonny
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From: Robert Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
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Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Poll: Do you use and carry dielectric grease in yourRV?
Mike,
Thanks for explaining ONI.
Sure hope you and Johnny spare us gear heads the sneaker head stuff and take it off net. ;-)
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: mike foster
I think you should share some of them here!! I'll even start the thread with one from my marketing days.
Johnny Bridges wrote on Thu, 13 February 2014 18:12
> I found out early on, if you spoke Bell you could get the techs to do what you wanted.... much like speaking vi to Unix hacks.
And if you make a rally same time as me, I'll share a six pack's worth of Mother Bell horror stories. (For the uninitiated, Mother
Bell and the broadcasters were usually Not On Speaking Terms back in the regulated days)
>
> --johnny
>
> ________________________________
> From: mike foster <mafoster1@bellsouth.net>
> Outside Network Interface. Before the feds decided they knew better how to run the telecom in the states we called it a
protector...because that was/is where the lightning protection is located. Prior to 1979 we used carbon discs with a .003" air gap
between the tip & ring and ground. Beginning in 1979 we used inert gas carbons in all locations, prior to this the gas units were
only used in proven high lightning strike locations.
>
> Google didn't cover it. Cool (like Steve McQueen).....as opposed to 'kewl' (like Justin Beiber)!
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Poll: Do you use and carry dielectric grease in yourRV? [message #239952 is a reply to message #239930] |
Thu, 13 February 2014 23:43 |
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| USAussie wrote on Thu, 13 February 2014 20:18 |
Mike,
Thanks for explaining ONI.
Sure hope you and Johnny spare us gear heads the sneaker head stuff and take it off net. 
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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If you take the electric stuff out of your GMC, you will not have much left for your gears to operate. I will just be one big pile of rust, corrosion, and fiberglass dust.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Do you use and carry dielectric grease in your RV? [message #239954 is a reply to message #239804] |
Fri, 14 February 2014 00:15 |
Ken Burton
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I prefer to use anti-seize on brake caliper pins. It seems to stick around forever and inhibits rusting.
I know it is almost impossible to get off of your hands.
I guess silicone grease is also hard to wash off.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Do you use and carry dielectric grease in your RV? [message #239967 is a reply to message #239661] |
Fri, 14 February 2014 06:50 |
mickey szilagyi
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We've had our 77 Kingsley for about a year and a half and every electrical connection we come across or add gets a coating of dielectric grease. Thanks to Ken Burton and others we clean and shine every one and coat them. Bob Burkitt clued us in to welding cable (fine braided copper and extremely flexible) and that's what we used to redo our battery compartment and all cables running to our replaced generator. We used closed end battery cable connectors and crimped and soldered all of them.
We did run into a couple electrical connections where the steel screws had welded themselves to the aluminum ground. We could not get them off so we coated them with dielectric grease and left well enough alone. We use Tef-Gel, anti-seize, and dielectric grease on everything. We use stainless steel whenever and wherever we can. So far so good.
We don't carry dielectric grease but maybe we'll throw some in the coach toolbox just because.
Mickey
1977 Kingsley, 403, Lansing, MI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Do you use and carry dielectric grease in your RV? [message #239969 is a reply to message #239956] |
Fri, 14 February 2014 07:09 |
jhbridges
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I use one I got from the local parts house which I think has a lot of molybdenum in it. At any rate, it's back as coal, nearly impossible to get off your hands, and never seems to harden or wash off. I use it on the caliper slides on the P30 front end. And the pins on my other disc stuff including the GMC.
--johnny
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Ken,
There are different anti-seize greases available; I use the one that has copper in it.
Regards,
Rob M.
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From: Ken Burton
I prefer to use anti-seize on brake caliper pins. It seems to stick around forever and inhibits rusting.
I know it is almost impossible to get off of your hands.
I guess silicone grease is also hard to wash off.
--
Ken
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Fri, 14 February 2014 07:15 |
jhbridges
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Off the label of the stuff I use:
"Silicone Heat Sink Thermal Compound"
Thermal Dielectric Compound
Made in the USA
Rawn Chemicals part number 10004, Spray Technologies Division, Spooner, WI.
Label sez it is zinc oxide filled polysilicoxane grease for the chemists among us. White n sticky and works.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
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carguy wrote on Thu, 13 February 2014 13:21
> It is my understanding that heat conducting grease NOT dielectric grease is to be used under the ignition module. At least that's what I do. If I'm wrong I'm sure someone will correct me.
You are correct Bill.
I just bought a tube of that stuff a few weeks ago when I was in the electronics store. It usually is white and is called heat sink grease. I went to get the brand off of the tube and can not find it now. It is hiding somewhere right now. It's probably with a set of sockets, a mapp gas torch, and a bag of F connectors that I also can not find.
What also works well is CPU grease used in computers.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Arctic-Silver-5-Silver-Thermal-Paste-Grease-PC-X-box-360-PS3-CPU-Heat-Sink-3-5g-/231018538107?pt=US_Thermal_Compounds_Supplies &hash=item35c9c7247b
eBay item number:
231018538107
or
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Arctic-Silver-CMQ2-25G-25g-Ceramique-2-Thermal-Compound-Paste-Grease-25-Gram-NEW/231015079390?rt=nc
eBay item number:
231015079390
I need a full time parts and tool guy to organize things around here.
I try not to go into Rat Shack. It is the place of last resort. But you probably can find both type of grease there. Radio Shack just announced that they are closing 500 US stores.
Maybe I put that tube in the GMC.
More info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_grease
--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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