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| Right Axle Shaft Removal [message #352097] |
Mon, 10 February 2020 09:20  |
Carl S.
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Okay, this is hardly a new topic, but I just spent the last 20 minutes searching the archives and didn't get the info I needed.
It's been a while since I last did this and I can't remember whether or not I need to remove the starter in order to get enough room to pull the right front axle shaft. I just got it unbolted from the flange last night and haven't turned the knuckle yet, but there doesn't seem to be a way around it.
It's not that I mind taking the starter off, but it's a heavy thing (so I guess I do mind after all).
Thanks,
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: Right Axle Shaft Removal [message #352098 is a reply to message #352097] |
Mon, 10 February 2020 09:26  |
jhbridges
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both axles can be removed fairly easily, moving the shock absorber out of the way helps. The wheels need to be turned to the lock to give enough space to get the splines out of the hub. Raise the inner end up and forward and out she comes. George Z had to show me this trick to get the drivers' side back in.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: Right Axle Shaft Removal [message #352107 is a reply to message #352097] |
Mon, 10 February 2020 12:19 |
Scott Nutter
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Carl,
Just like Johnny said. I did not even need to remove the oil filter. A 1/2 inch drive cordless impact driver makes the job easy.
Scott.
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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| Re: Right Axle Shaft Removal [message #352108 is a reply to message #352098] |
Mon, 10 February 2020 13:13 |
rjw
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Johnny Bridges wrote on Mon, 10 February 2020 10:26both axles can be removed fairly easily, moving the shock absorber out of the way helps. The wheels need to be turned to the lock to give enough space to get the splines out of the hub. Raise the inner end up and forward and out she comes. George Z had to show me this trick to get the drivers' side back in.
--johnny
GMC axle R&R has been "the bane of my existence". Each time I do it, it gets harder. I would like to see see avido of someone doing it efficently.
Emery did a write up a few years ago on axles which I keep on file.
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=29165&goto=232982&rid=875#msg_232982
My notes on the last time I did it.
7/26/2018 12:55 PM after much fussing, I was able to reinstall the passenger side axle by the reverse of Emery's procedure. The day before I got it out by turning the wheels to the right full and then to the left full to clear brake caliper. Took the shock off for better clearance.
The reinstall was a pain, took the steering damper off. That didn't work. Ended up taking the oil filter off per Emery's instructions and that worked. No need to take the damper off.
Richard
76 Palm Beach
SE Michigan
www.PalmBeachGMC.com
Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water heaters.
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| Re: Right Axle Shaft Removal [message #352117 is a reply to message #352108] |
Tue, 11 February 2020 01:28 |
cadelec
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Location: Brisbane Australia
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i seem to remeberthese steps it may be correct as it was a while ago others may want to correct me
for right hand axle
after undoing bolts inner CV joint
remove oil filter
turn steering all the way to left
place jack under rhs ball joint
jack up till axle can be removed easily
when reinstalling dont forget the above
Trevor
Brisbane Australia
Siesta Koala 76 Edgemont (old Bobby Moores)
71 Cadillac Eldo Convert
58 Cadillac Eldorado Brougham Project
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| Re: Right Axle Shaft Removal [message #352122 is a reply to message #352117] |
Tue, 11 February 2020 08:54 |
Carl S.
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Thanks for all the tips guys. It was raining last evening (yay! we ate always thankful for a good rain here in the desert) so I didn't work on it. I'll try to get it out with the starter in place. It seems to me that was how I did it last time.
Again, I appreciate the help. Thanks.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: Right Axle Shaft Removal [message #352182 is a reply to message #352122] |
Thu, 13 February 2020 20:16 |
Carl S.
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Just a follow-up:
I got the right side axle shaft out this evening without removing the starter. I turned the steering all the way to the right, jacked up the control arm, and after a bit of a struggle, it came right out.
The new one went back in the same way, with a bit of a struggle getting it lined up and into the splines. It would have helped to have some help and/or to be about 10 years younger.
I will bolt everything back together Saturday before I install the new oil filter and finish up the oil change I started last weekend.
I know it's inevitable, but I hope I don't have to do this again for a while.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: Right Axle Shaft Removal [message #352183 is a reply to message #352182] |
Thu, 13 February 2020 20:43 |
C Boyd
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Sir, you could have replaced boot without removing axel.
http://gmcmotorhome.info/front.html#boot
Carl S. wrote on Thu, 13 February 2020 21:16Just a follow-up:
I got the right side axle shaft out this evening without removing the starter. I turned the steering all the way to the right, jacked up the control arm, and after a bit of a struggle, it came right out.
The new one went back in the same way, with a bit of a struggle getting it lined up and into the splines. It would have helped to have some help and/or to be about 10 years younger.
I will bolt everything back together Saturday before I install the new oil filter and finish up the oil change I started last weekend.
I know it's inevitable, but I hope I don't have to do this again for a while.
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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| Re: Right Axle Shaft Removal [message #352185 is a reply to message #352183] |
Thu, 13 February 2020 21:21 |
Carl S.
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Chuck, I probably could have, but I had a spare axle with a blue silicone 'super boot' on it already, so it was preferable to just swap it out.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Right Axle Shaft Removal [message #352186 is a reply to message #352185] |
Thu, 13 February 2020 22:38 |
sgltrac
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Make sure u drive that thing in all the way into the final drive. On fwd
cars it is not hard to assemble the susp around the driveshaft after
inserting it into the trans even if it is not fully seated. Everything will
work fine except the seal interface with the shaft and then the magic fluid
leaks out. May not be a deal with the GMC final drives, been so long I
don’t remember.
Sully
Bellevue wa
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 7:22 PM Carl Stouffer via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Chuck, I probably could have, but I had a spare axle with a blue silicone
> 'super boot' on it already, so it was preferable to just swap it out.
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive,
> Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American
> Eagles,
> Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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77 Royale basket case.
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Seattle, Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Right Axle Shaft Removal [message #352193 is a reply to message #352186] |
Fri, 14 February 2020 09:19 |
Carl S.
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Thanks, but not an issue on the right side. Nothing had to come out of the final drive to remove the half shaft.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: Right Axle Shaft Removal [message #352194 is a reply to message #352097] |
Fri, 14 February 2020 09:48 |
jhbridges
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You don't >have< to undo anything but the shaft ends to take either side out. It's a bit easier top get at if you undo the bottom of the shock absorber and push it out of the way, but it can be done without if you're a bit of a contortionist.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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