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| Introduction - first opinion question [message #340704] |
Thu, 07 February 2019 09:14  |
MikeB
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Hi Folks
I wanted to introduce myself. My wife and I just retired and we've been moving towards the purchase of a GMC MH for about four months. I currently live in North Mississippi and plan to move to lower Alabama this summer. My family is originally from North Carolina and North GA. However as an Army brat and later real estate project manager I've lived in or traveled to most of the states east of the Mississippi (I've also traveled to a few western states). I consider myself a "jack of all trades and master of none" but my enthusiasm for working the trades has let's say narrowed. We plan to travel all over the country and Alaska.
I've done a lot of reading of emails, articles from cinnabar, coop, GMCMI, Facebook, YouTube and this forum. I've also had some good conversations with some very experienced GMCers. I've had two big 5th wheel trailers since the 90s both used so Im familiar with their limitations in both quality and repair. I've also restored houses, import cars, trucks, tractors and even old appliances. As a matter of fact if I'm on vacation too long I tend to feel like I need to "fix" something... it's an illness. My plan is to buy a well cared for slightly upgraded but not hacked ready to go GMC. Not looking to restore a core or drop big coin on a turn key "just restored" vehicle.
I understand that there are usually more problems and issues posted on the internet than positive comments so one could be given the wrong impression of the actual durability of any vehicle. I also understand that experience and brand loyalty can skew a persons' opinion. That being said, would y'all say an average GMC mostly stock 74-77, not PO hacked, decent maintenance with around 50-70k miles is a reasonably dependable vehicle? Dependable enough to feel confident on a long trip? I'm wondering if the love of and devotion to these vehicles trumps it's unreliability. Are they just a novelty Or is reliability one of those attributes?
Thanks in advance for your opinions.
P.s. I understand that any vehicle 40 years old is worn out to some level.
Mike Beam
M Beam
75’ Avion
TBI EBL , 3.70 LSD and other stuff
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| Re: Introduction - first opinion question [message #340705 is a reply to message #340704] |
Thu, 07 February 2019 09:30  |
Carl S.
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I would say yes, with a few caveats. A lot has to do with the overall maintenance of the particular vehicle. You can replace bushings, ball joints, steering boxes, bearings, etc, and that will make it more dependable, but it is really hard to know what condition the engine and transmission are in. You can do compression and/or leak down tests on the engine, and that will tell you a lot, but certain things will remain unknown until the time comes when you have a breakdown and are forced to rebuild or replace major components.
My coach had been well maintained when I got it although not mechanically upgraded, and was mostly stock, with 66,000 miles on it. I started out doing the front end, then the timing chain, etc, eventually upgraded the final drive and the brakes, and was confident in it until the transmission wore out a clutch pack and lost high gear. I subsequently over revved it (I guess) and spun a rod bearing. I knew it was inevitable, so we just dealt with it, got towed 165 miles home, and rebuilt it. I am now reasonably confident that it will continue to be as reliable as I can make it by continuing with regular maintenance.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Introduction - first opinion question [message #340706 is a reply to message #340704] |
Thu, 07 February 2019 09:55 |
James Hupy
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An example of a late 78 Royale: 3rd owner. First 2 only used the coach. We
bought it, with original steel wheels and aged out tires, and worn out
brakes, front rubber suspension parts, and hubs, wheel bearings and
knuckles and CV joints, as well as engine in poor tune, but basically good
shape. Interior was sun damaged, and dirty, but usable. Cabinets were in
need of TLC, but usable. Roof AC, Furnace, and ONAN non working.
First injection of money took care of the "S" s. Start, Stop, Steer,
and Safety.
The other stuff, Onan, Furnace, Roof AC, Upholstery, interior
cosmetics came along as resources permitted. We used the coach as soon as
the "S" stuff was fixed. We have driven across Canada, and across the USA
twice. Going to go to San Diego, this spring. 2000 miles back and forth
from here. 6 weeks at a time is doable.
These coaches are reliable, and safe to use, if properly maintained.
My investment so far, probably around $25,000.00. About average, I would
guess.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
On Thu, Feb 7, 2019, 7:30 AM Hi Folks[/color]
> I wanted to introduce myself. My wife and I just retired and we've been
> moving towards the purchase of a GMC MH for about four months. I currently
> live in North Mississippi and plan to move to lower Alabama this summer.
> My family is originally from North Carolina and North GA. However as an
> Army brat and later real estate project manager I've lived in or traveled
> to most of the states east of the Mississippi (I've also traveled to a few
> western states). I consider myself a "jack of all trades and master of
> none" but my enthusiasm for working the trades has let's say narrowed. We
> plan
> to travel all over the country and Alaska.
>
> I've done a lot of reading of emails, articles from cinnabar, coop, GMCMI,
> Facebook, YouTube and this forum. I've also had some good conversations
> with some very experienced GMCers. I've had two big 5th wheel trailers
> since the 90s both used so Im familiar with their limitations in both
> quality
> and repair. I've also restored houses, import cars, trucks, tractors and
> even old appliances. As a matter of fact if I'm on vacation too long I tend
> to feel like I need to "fix" something... it's an illness. My plan is to
> buy a well cared for slightly upgraded but not hacked ready to go GMC. Not
> looking to restore a core or drop big coin on a turn key "just restored"
> vehicle.
>
> I understand that there are usually more problems and issues posted on
> the internet than positive comments so one could be given the wrong
> impression of the actual durability of any vehicle. I also understand that
> experience and brand loyalty can skew a persons' opinion. That being said,
> would y'all say an average GMC mostly stock 74-77, not PO hacked, decent
> maintenance with around 50-70k miles is a reasonably dependable vehicle?
> Dependable enough to feel confident on a long trip? I'm wondering if the
> love of and devotion to these vehicles trumps it's unreliability. Are they
> just a novelty Or is reliability one of those attributes?
>
> Thanks in advance for your opinions.
>
> P.s. I understand that any vehicle 40 years old is worn out to some level.
>
> Mike Beam
>
>
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| Re: Introduction - first opinion question [message #340707 is a reply to message #340705] |
Thu, 07 February 2019 10:00 |
Justin Brady
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It's as dependable as any 40 year old vehicle.
No inherent issues with GMC in particular, whatever you don't replace or personally inspect you can expect to fail at some point.
It's not going to be the same experience as buying a sprinter and heading for Alaska. There will be some issues most likely, because it's 40 years old and you don't know who did the maintenance before you.
That being said, if that's what you like go for it!
Last year my wife and I drove ours after a fresh build from TN to glacier national park and back and only had a couple issues, all fixable in an Autozone parking lot. Since that trip we've had virtually no problems.
I wouldn't hesitate to take it anywhere, however I also wouldn't plan to absolutely have to get somewhere in a certain amount of time because you never know what will fail next! Just par for the course with an older vehicle.
Same would be said about a 40 year old sprinter van, or a honda.
Justin Brady
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| Re: [GMCnet] Introduction - first opinion question [message #340709 is a reply to message #340705] |
Thu, 07 February 2019 10:27 |
richshoop
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After owning 5 different RV's over the years, the gmc is a very reliable rig. But it is 40 years old and will have issues. As the previous responder pointed out, everything in the coach will be in need of replacing at some point. The trick is to get ahead of the maintenance curve. Follow the guidelines for the routine maintenance items. These coaches were expected to be looked at by the dealer several times each year.
Once you get ahead of the maintenance curve and understand that there is always something that needs repair but does not limit your use of the coach, there is no reason to take it anywhere you choose.
Is a brand new coach more reliable? Not necessarily. If I spend more money? Not necessarily. Check things out. Read the posts from the gmclist and other sources, and you will find your baby.
> On February 7, 2019 at 7:30 AM Carl Stouffer wrote:
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> I would say yes, with a few caveats. A lot has to do with the overall maintenance of the particular vehicle. You can replace bushings, ball joints,
> steering boxes, bearings, etc, and that will make it more dependable, but it is really hard to know what condition the engine and transmission are in.
> You can do compression and/or leak down tests on the engine, and that will tell you a lot, but certain things will remain unknown until the time
> comes when you have a breakdown and are forced to rebuild or replace major components.
>
> My coach had been well maintained when I got it although not mechanically upgraded, and was mostly stock, with 66,000 miles on it. I started out
> doing the front end, then the timing chain, etc, eventually upgraded the final drive and the brakes, and was confident in it until the transmission
> wore out a clutch pack and lost high gear. I subsequently over revved it (I guess) and spun a rod bearing. I knew it was inevitable, so we just
> dealt with it, got towed 165 miles home, and rebuilt it. I am now reasonably confident that it will continue to be as reliable as I can make it by
> continuing with regular maintenance.
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles,
> Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Introduction - first opinion question [message #340712 is a reply to message #340704] |
Thu, 07 February 2019 11:28 |
Ken Henderson
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Mike,
Welcome to the GMC community. As-a-born-in-Alabama, sorta Army brat, USAF
retiree, and mostly Georgia resident, I especially appreciate your joining
us. And moving to "lower Alabama", will put you right near the large
population of GMCers in "South Alabama" (the Florida Panhandle). Lots of
good folks down there. Mostly GMC Dixielanders and Sunshine Statesmen,
both of which clubs you'll need/want to join, in addition to GMCMI.
As for available vehicles, it might be worth a visit over our way: There
are two (out of 3 owned) available here from a local engine rebuilder (none
of the coaches have needed his engine expertise). One of them doesn't look
great outside, but he's been through the interior, from sprayed on
insulation to moving the bath module forward for twin beds in the rear. I
don't know the current price (I THINK around $14,000), but can check and
make some photos if you think you'd be interested.
Ken H.
On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 10:30 AM wrote:
> Hi Folks
> I wanted to introduce myself. My wife and I just retired and we've been
> moving towards the purchase of a GMC MH for about four months. I currently
> live in North Mississippi and plan to move to lower Alabama this
> summer. My family is originally from North Carolina and North GA. However
> as an Army brat...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Introduction - first opinion question [message #340714 is a reply to message #340712] |
Thu, 07 February 2019 14:28 |
MikeB
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Wow. Great responses and welcoming. I appreciate the real life examples and experiences. All that’s been said is pretty much the impression that I’ve gotten so far. This will also help convince my wife that this is not just another one of my crazy ideas. She’s been really getting excited and has actually eliminated other options I’ve put out there for consideration such as newer RVs, other vintage brands and what y’all refer to as SOBs. She is just a little nervous because she’s been lurking on Facebook and as I mentioned sees a lot of posts concerning repairs. At this point though she’s excited to move forward with this adventure as long as quote “you don’t get to mad”. I’ve assured her that it’s a new patient me with no more places I have to be...unless of course she tells me there is.
We do not actually plan to buy one until after we sell our house here in MS. I hope that will be this summer. I’ve been itching to buy one since day one (actually put an offer on one and was close to making a few others) but she has reminded me about the “new me” so I’m sticking to the plan. I have a house to finish getting ready for sale. I don’t need another project (or distraction as she puts it.)
I have been enjoying reading all the GMCnet emails and am impressed with the level of knowledge and how generously it’s shared and of course the humor.
Ken,
I think we are in about the same pine belt zone. We plan to move to our land just north of Opp Al. I go once a month just to prepare the nest a little more and regain some of my lost sanity. We are going to try and make the Tallahassee event.
Thanks again for the posts. Looking forward to meeting more enthusiast.
Sent from my iPad
> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Ken Henderson wrote:
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> Mike,
>
> Welcome to the GMC community. As-a-born-in-Alabama, sorta Army brat, USAF
> retiree, and mostly Georgia resident, I especially appreciate your joining
> us. And moving to "lower Alabama", will put you right near the large
> population of GMCers in "South Alabama" (the Florida Panhandle). Lots of
> good folks down there. Mostly GMC Dixielanders and Sunshine Statesmen,
> both of which clubs you'll need/want to join, in addition to GMCMI.
>
> As for available vehicles, it might be worth a visit over our way: There
> are two (out of 3 owned) available here from a local engine rebuilder (none
> of the coaches have needed his engine expertise). One of them doesn't look
> great outside, but he's been through the interior, from sprayed on
> insulation to moving the bath module forward for twin beds in the rear. I
> don't know the current price (I THINK around $14,000), but can check and
> make some photos if you think you'd be interested.
>
> Ken H.
>
>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 10:30 AM wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks
>> I wanted to introduce myself. My wife and I just retired and we've been
>> moving towards the purchase of a GMC MH for about four months. I currently
>> live in North Mississippi and plan to move to lower Alabama this
>> summer. My family is originally from North Carolina and North GA. However
>> as an Army brat...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Introduction - first opinion question [message #340715 is a reply to message #340714] |
Thu, 07 February 2019 14:37 |
Richard Denney
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Don’t be put off by what you see on Facebook. The folks there disconnect
themselves from the searchable, persistent recorded experience that is
available on GMCnet, and suffer issues and poor advice unnecessarily as a
result. Facebook is great for showing the coach in a great location, and
enjoying photos of others doing likewise, but it’s not so good for getting
detailed technical help or even emergency assistance.
Rick “who can never find FB entries made longer ago than yesterday” Denney
On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 3:29 PM Michael Beam wrote:
> Wow. Great responses and welcoming. I appreciate the real life examples
> and experiences. All that’s been said is pretty much the impression that
> I’ve gotten so far. This will also help convince my wife that this is not
> just another one of my crazy ideas. She’s been really getting excited and
> has actually eliminated other options I’ve put out there for consideration
> such as newer RVs, other vintage brands and what y’all refer to as SOBs.
> She is just a little nervous because she’s been lurking on Facebook and as
> I mentioned sees a lot of posts concerning repairs. At this point though
> she’s excited to move forward with this adventure as long as quote “you
> don’t get to mad”. I’ve assured her that it’s a new patient me with no
> more places I have to be...unless of course she tells me there is.
>
> We do not actually plan to buy one until after we sell our house here in
> MS. I hope that will be this summer. I’ve been itching to buy one since day
> one (actually put an offer on one and was close to making a few others) but
> she has reminded me about the “new me” so I’m sticking to the plan. I have
> a house to finish getting ready for sale. I don’t need another project (or
> distraction as she puts it.)
>
> I have been enjoying reading all the GMCnet emails and am impressed with
> the level of knowledge and how generously it’s shared and of course the
> humor.
>
> Ken,
> I think we are in about the same pine belt zone. We plan to move to our
> land just north of Opp Al. I go once a month just to prepare the nest a
> little more and regain some of my lost sanity. We are going to try and make
> the Tallahassee event.
>
> Thanks again for the posts. Looking forward to meeting more enthusiast.
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Ken Henderson
> wrote:
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Welcome to the GMC community. As-a-born-in-Alabama, sorta Army brat,
> USAF
>> retiree, and mostly Georgia resident, I especially appreciate your
> joining
>> us. And moving to "lower Alabama", will put you right near the large
>> population of GMCers in "South Alabama" (the Florida Panhandle). Lots of
>> good folks down there. Mostly GMC Dixielanders and Sunshine Statesmen,
>> both of which clubs you'll need/want to join, in addition to GMCMI.
>>
>> As for available vehicles, it might be worth a visit over our way: There
>> are two (out of 3 owned) available here from a local engine rebuilder
> (none
>> of the coaches have needed his engine expertise). One of them doesn't
> look
>> great outside, but he's been through the interior, from sprayed on
>> insulation to moving the bath module forward for twin beds in the rear.
> I
>> don't know the current price (I THINK around $14,000), but can check and
>> make some photos if you think you'd be interested.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 10:30 AM wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Folks
>>> I wanted to introduce myself. My wife and I just retired and we've been
>>> moving towards the purchase of a GMC MH for about four months. I
> currently
>>> live in North Mississippi and plan to move to lower Alabama this
>>> summer. My family is originally from North Carolina and North GA.
> However
>>> as an Army brat...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Introduction - first opinion question [message #340716 is a reply to message #340715] |
Thu, 07 February 2019 14:44 |
MikeB
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Thanks Rick. I agree with your assessment. I’d prefer Facebook didn’t exist actually. However it was a lot easier to get my bride to Facebook it rather than forum cruise.
Sent from my iPad
> On Feb 7, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Richard Denney wrote:
>
> Don’t be put off by what you see on Facebook. The folks there disconnect
> themselves from the searchable, persistent recorded experience that is
> available on GMCnet, and suffer issues and poor advice unnecessarily as a
> result. Facebook is great for showing the coach in a great location, and
> enjoying photos of others doing likewise, but it’s not so good for getting
> detailed technical help or even emergency assistance.
>
> Rick “who can never find FB entries made longer ago than yesterday” Denney
>
>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 3:29 PM Michael Beam wrote:
>>
>> Wow. Great responses and welcoming. I appreciate the real life examples
>> and experiences. All that’s been said is pretty much the impression that
>> I’ve gotten so far. This will also help convince my wife that this is not
>> just another one of my crazy ideas. She’s been really getting excited and
>> has actually eliminated other options I’ve put out there for consideration
>> such as newer RVs, other vintage brands and what y’all refer to as SOBs.
>> She is just a little nervous because she’s been lurking on Facebook and as
>> I mentioned sees a lot of posts concerning repairs. At this point though
>> she’s excited to move forward with this adventure as long as quote “you
>> don’t get to mad”. I’ve assured her that it’s a new patient me with no
>> more places I have to be...unless of course she tells me there is.
>>
>> We do not actually plan to buy one until after we sell our house here in
>> MS. I hope that will be this summer. I’ve been itching to buy one since day
>> one (actually put an offer on one and was close to making a few others) but
>> she has reminded me about the “new me” so I’m sticking to the plan. I have
>> a house to finish getting ready for sale. I don’t need another project (or
>> distraction as she puts it.)
>>
>> I have been enjoying reading all the GMCnet emails and am impressed with
>> the level of knowledge and how generously it’s shared and of course the
>> humor.
>>
>> Ken,
>> I think we are in about the same pine belt zone. We plan to move to our
>> land just north of Opp Al. I go once a month just to prepare the nest a
>> little more and regain some of my lost sanity. We are going to try and make
>> the Tallahassee event.
>>
>> Thanks again for the posts. Looking forward to meeting more enthusiast.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Ken Henderson
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> Welcome to the GMC community. As-a-born-in-Alabama, sorta Army brat,
>> USAF
>>> retiree, and mostly Georgia resident, I especially appreciate your
>> joining
>>> us. And moving to "lower Alabama", will put you right near the large
>>> population of GMCers in "South Alabama" (the Florida Panhandle). Lots of
>>> good folks down there. Mostly GMC Dixielanders and Sunshine Statesmen,
>>> both of which clubs you'll need/want to join, in addition to GMCMI.
>>>
>>> As for available vehicles, it might be worth a visit over our way: There
>>> are two (out of 3 owned) available here from a local engine rebuilder
>> (none
>>> of the coaches have needed his engine expertise). One of them doesn't
>> look
>>> great outside, but he's been through the interior, from sprayed on
>>> insulation to moving the bath module forward for twin beds in the rear.
>> I
>>> don't know the current price (I THINK around $14,000), but can check and
>>> make some photos if you think you'd be interested.
>>>
>>> Ken H.
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 10:30 AM wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Folks
>>>> I wanted to introduce myself. My wife and I just retired and we've been
>>>> moving towards the purchase of a GMC MH for about four months. I
>> currently
>>>> live in North Mississippi and plan to move to lower Alabama this
>>>> summer. My family is originally from North Carolina and North GA.
>> However
>>>> as an Army brat...
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
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| Re: [GMCnet] Introduction - first opinion question [message #340717 is a reply to message #340714] |
Thu, 07 February 2019 14:47 |
Ken Henderson
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Mike,
I know Opp slightly from my childhood. My maternal ancestral home was at
Cole's Bridge on the Pea River, between Elba and Ariton. My paternal
grandparents lived 4 mi S. of Brundidge; I made a lot of trips there from
where I was mostly raised in Columbus, GA. I distinctly remember that the
bus announcer always included Opp and Andalusia as stops on the route! :-)
Ken H.
On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 3:29 PM Michael Beam wrote:
> ...
> Ken,
> I think we are in about the same pine belt zone. We plan to move to our
> land just north of Opp Al. I go once a month just to prepare the nest a
> little more and regain some of my lost sanity. We are going to try and make
> the Tallahassee event.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Introduction - first opinion question [message #340719 is a reply to message #340717] |
Thu, 07 February 2019 14:51 |
MikeB
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Well then I have to ask....Tigers, Dogs or Tide? I’m guessing Dogs.
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> On Feb 7, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
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> Mike,
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> I know Opp slightly from my childhood. My maternal ancestral home was at
> Cole's Bridge on the Pea River, between Elba and Ariton. My paternal
> grandparents lived 4 mi S. of Brundidge; I made a lot of trips there from
> where I was mostly raised in Columbus, GA. I distinctly remember that the
> bus announcer always included Opp and Andalusia as stops on the route! :-)
>
> Ken H.
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>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 3:29 PM Michael Beam wrote:
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>> ...
>> Ken,
>> I think we are in about the same pine belt zone. We plan to move to our
>> land just north of Opp Al. I go once a month just to prepare the nest a
>> little more and regain some of my lost sanity. We are going to try and make
>> the Tallahassee event.
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Introduction - first opinion question [message #340721 is a reply to message #340720] |
Thu, 07 February 2019 15:04 |
MikeB
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You are indeed a rare bird. I actual thought you had to have a declaration on your Alabama birth certificate along with one for Chevy, Ford, or Dodge.
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> On Feb 7, 2019, at 3:00 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
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> None of the above -- I hardly know the difference between those round balls
> and the elliptical ones. :-)
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> Ken H.
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>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 3:52 PM Michael Beam wrote:
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>> Well then I have to ask....Tigers, Dogs or Tide? I’m guessing Dogs.
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Introduction - first opinion question [message #340722 is a reply to message #340714] |
Thu, 07 February 2019 15:20 |
Mike Kelley
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Michael Beam:
I too would like to encourage you to follow you instinct to purchase a GMC MH. Just double and triple check the mechanicals of any one that draws your interest. I have owned 5 GMC’s in the past 5 1/2 years - am now down to 3 (2 daily drivers and one project coach). We drive ours (91 GMC trips in the past 62 months - many cross country trips tween IL. and Tx. plus trips to GMC MHI conventions), about 15,000 miles average per year for us.
My suggestions - look for 76 thru 78 models
(newer innovations by GM), put safety and reliability first on your list as to must haves, request assistance from a close by GMCer to inspect the coach you find and are considering buying, check frame for rust thru’s before purchasing, don’t be afraid of hi mileage coaches - my best one has 219,000 miles on it - plus one w/ 30,000 to 60,000 miles has probably sat for a long time and will no doubt need major maintenance/mechanical upgrades.
The more research you do the better prepared you will be when the right one comes along. Also know that you should expect to spend 25k to 30k to get in to a good, safe, reliable, & presentable coach.
So, buy a $2,000.00 coach and spend $27,000 plus or minus and 5 years fixing up before your first trip or pay 25 to 30 K for a
“ready to go coach”.
Good luck and here is looking to meeting “on the road”!!!
Mike/The Corvair a holic
You might recognize me on the road by my Toad (towed) - you guessed it - a Corvair - Ha!!!
76 Eleganza II 26’ daily driver (my best).
76 Glenbrook 28’ stretch daily driver.
78 Glenbrook 26’ Clasco updated interior - project coach.
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> On Feb 7, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Michael Beam wrote:
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> Wow. Great responses and welcoming. I appreciate the real life examples and experiences. All that’s been said is pretty much the impression that I’ve gotten so far. This will also help convince my wife that this is not just another one of my crazy ideas. She’s been really getting excited and has actually eliminated other options I’ve put out there for consideration such as newer RVs, other vintage brands and what y’all refer to as SOBs. She is just a little nervous because she’s been lurking on Facebook and as I mentioned sees a lot of posts concerning repairs. At this point though she’s excited to move forward with this adventure as long as quote “you don’t get to mad”. I’ve assured her that it’s a new patient me with no more places I have to be...unless of course she tells me there is.
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> We do not actually plan to buy one until after we sell our house here in MS. I hope that will be this summer. I’ve been itching to buy one since day one (actually put an offer on one and was close to making a few others) but she has reminded me about the “new me” so I’m sticking to the plan. I have a house to finish getting ready for sale. I don’t need another project (or distraction as she puts it.)
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> I have been enjoying reading all the GMCnet emails and am impressed with the level of knowledge and how generously it’s shared and of course the humor.
>
> Ken,
> I think we are in about the same pine belt zone. We plan to move to our land just north of Opp Al. I go once a month just to prepare the nest a little more and regain some of my lost sanity. We are going to try and make the Tallahassee event.
>
> Thanks again for the posts. Looking forward to meeting more enthusiast.
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> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Ken Henderson wrote:
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>> Mike,
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>> Welcome to the GMC community. As-a-born-in-Alabama, sorta Army brat, USAF
>> retiree, and mostly Georgia resident, I especially appreciate your joining
>> us. And moving to "lower Alabama", will put you right near the large
>> population of GMCers in "South Alabama" (the Florida Panhandle). Lots of
>> good folks down there. Mostly GMC Dixielanders and Sunshine Statesmen,
>> both of which clubs you'll need/want to join, in addition to GMCMI.
>>
>> As for available vehicles, it might be worth a visit over our way: There
>> are two (out of 3 owned) available here from a local engine rebuilder (none
>> of the coaches have needed his engine expertise). One of them doesn't look
>> great outside, but he's been through the interior, from sprayed on
>> insulation to moving the bath module forward for twin beds in the rear. I
>> don't know the current price (I THINK around $14,000), but can check and
>> make some photos if you think you'd be interested.
>>
>> Ken H.
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>>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 10:30 AM wrote:
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>>> Hi Folks
>>> I wanted to introduce myself. My wife and I just retired and we've been
>>> moving towards the purchase of a GMC MH for about four months. I currently
>>> live in North Mississippi and plan to move to lower Alabama this
>>> summer. My family is originally from North Carolina and North GA. However
>>> as an Army brat...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Introduction - first opinion question [message #340723 is a reply to message #340721] |
Thu, 07 February 2019 15:20 |
jimk
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Keep in mind that your dollars ahead by paying more than looking for deals
as you'll end up spending lot more later.
Should you have any question or concern don't hesitate to call upon me.
Jim Kanomata
Appliedgmc.com
800-752-7502
On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 1:04 PM Michael Beam wrote:
> You are indeed a rare bird. I actual thought you had to have a declaration
> on your Alabama birth certificate along with one for Chevy, Ford, or Dodge.
>
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 3:00 PM, Ken Henderson
> wrote:
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>> None of the above -- I hardly know the difference between those round
> balls
>> and the elliptical ones. :-)
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 3:52 PM Michael Beam wrote:
>>>
>>> Well then I have to ask....Tigers, Dogs or Tide? I’m guessing Dogs.
>>>
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Introduction - first opinion question [message #340726 is a reply to message #340721] |
Thu, 07 February 2019 15:52 |
MikeB
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Mike and Jim
Yes I am becoming familiar with the dynamic that seems to be specific to this type of coach. It's a sweet spot somewhere between how you evaluate a used automobile and how you evaluate a used boat. I have no problems paying $25-35k for a "ready to go" unit OR $16-25k unit thats highly functional but could use another 10-20 invested. My goal is to be comfortable identifying them. I'm hoping my research gets me to a point where I don't spend $25-35k for a poorly remodeled/upgraded version only to need another $10-20k. I think this community provides a benefit of not only knowledge shared but also knowing the reputation/history behind the seller and their coach.
I'm still evolving as a buyer thanks to this community.
M Beam
75’ Avion
TBI EBL , 3.70 LSD and other stuff
Zuki Sidekick,
Dozier Al
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| Re: [GMCnet] Introduction - first opinion question [message #340731 is a reply to message #340726] |
Thu, 07 February 2019 16:45 |
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Matt Colie
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MikeB wrote on Thu, 07 February 2019 16:52Mike and Jim
Yes I am becoming familiar with the dynamic that seems to be specific to this type of coach. It's a sweat spot somewhere between how you evaluate a used automobile and how you evaluate a used boat. I have no problems paying $25-35k for a "ready to go" unit OR $16-25k unit thats highly functional but could use another 10-20 invested. My goal is to be comfortable identifying them. I'm hoping my research gets me to a point where I don't spend $25-35k for a poorly remodeled/upgraded version only to need another $10-20k. I think this community provides a benefit of not only knowledge shared but also knowing the reputation/history behind the seller and their coach.
I'm still evolving as a buyer thanks to this community.
So are the rest of us.
Mike,
Welcome to the group, family, cult, asylum.....
Getting here before you buy is a very good idea, I wish I had, but I have no regrets as it is.
Your resume reads like you are a good candidate to be a GMC owner. To that end, put Tallahassee in your plans right now, and get there even if you aren't an owner then. (That could change at the convention, this has happened before.)
Also, you can go over to B'dubs site and download the maintenance manuals just for reading on cold days. Also over there, is a link to the Black (aka GMC assist)list. Grab one of those and look for people that are near any perspective coaches. If you run into a GMC owner that is not interested to help you, please come back here and tell us and we will get him an intervention and professional help
When Chaumière comes out of the barn, it will be season 14 for us. We got her at just over 100K and have put another 70K on her. More in recent years as we are retired now. Been on a hook once and limped home twice. I also just did an engine that then put a fast 3K on her before putting her to bed for the winter.
You have gotten almost all the good advice I might like to have put forward - Except - If you don't have a really good grease gun, go get one. Most of us have settled on Valvoline SynPro. It isn't cheap, but it is cheaper than parts.
Oh, and take our straight line "A reliable and ready to travel GMC will cost ~30K$ - All at once or as a kit."
What this line does not say is that sweat is invested at current shop rate. (That is about 100$/hr.) I can tell you it is true.
I hope you understand that by showing up here with interest, you have just collected a few thousand brand new old friends. That is the best part of being a GMC owner and why you will see other coaches at any GMC rally. Maybe they had to let the coach go, but did not want to be away from the owners.
Keep us informed as you go along.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: Introduction - first opinion question [message #340741 is a reply to message #340704] |
Fri, 08 February 2019 08:03 |
jhbridges
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Mike, I bought the current coach and drove it home CA to N GA without problems. In the intervening three years, it has gotten a new transmission, reaction arm rear brakes, new oil and transmission cooler lines, tires, radiator, etc. Currently have a new engine waiting and the upholstery shop just told me the couch/bunks and the dinette are done in nice beige vinyl. At some point it will get a new headliner because the original is stained. The rear has been converted to a double bed. all the front suspension bushings and such were redone by the PO. Mac dash. New water pump. New furnace. Etc. Etc. With the new engine and trans it would go for ~~ 20K. If I were to sell it, I'd simply go find another and build it out to my requirements. If I could figure a rear bath with a decent bed someplace, that's the move for me... I use the coach to go to dog shows, and the occasional rally.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: Introduction - first opinion question [message #340746 is a reply to message #340704] |
Fri, 08 February 2019 09:09 |
lqqkatjon
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take facebook and GMCNet out of the picture, and keep your eyes open, and you will find vast numbers of GMC's driving around the country. It is very common for me to somehow cross paths with another GMC owner, that is not online, not on the clubs, and just happens to be traveling in a GMC. GMCMI conventions is a good example of coaches that travel vast distances to go.
there are plenty of neglected coaches out there, and I think a high percentage of those people will go to facebook and many of the repair stories are from. But there are stories of people who will fly cross country, jump in to a GMC, that I would not want to drive across town, and drive the thing home with no issues. Yet the next guy will go do the same for a "maintained coach" and the motor will blow an hour into the trip.
get your wife out to the rally's, and she will enjoy the GMC. When I brought my coach home, I was seriously risking divorce, and up until about an hour before I had it home, the plan was to actually bring it to a friend's first to let her get used to the idea I bought the thing before she had to look at it every day in our driveway. 8 months of testing the boundary's of my marriage my wife finally fessed up and agreed the GMC was the way to go.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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