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Brian K
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Hi everyone,
As a follow up on my earlier post (link below if anyone is bored), I ended up cleaning and tightening most of my 12v connections up front. While I had a few loose spots, it didn't solve the "hot starting" problem I was having. My friend who sold me (and occasionally works on) the GMC suggested it may be that the starter is getting too hot on the long drives (it was in the 100s throughout CA when I was there), and to let it rest. So on the trip home to Seattle from Los Angeles, I pretty much just kept it running at gas and rest stops, and once I plugged in at a camping stop, it would cold start fine (over and over).
So, now that I'm home I'm going to start seeing if I can narrow it down to whether my starter or starter solenoid is going. In the meantime, I wanted to start organizing and cleaning up the morass of wires I have in the front engine compartments. My boost solenoid looks like it has seen better days. In light of the prevailing community thoughts that the boost switch should be rarely, if ever used, my question is: Can I just eliminate the Boost Solenoid and not have it? Other than rendering the Boost switch useless, would that screw up anything else?
Aside: When I had the hot start problem again, I DID try the steering wheel movement and shifting maneuvers. I also got down and checked the wiring on the NSS. So I'm leaning to it not being NSS related.
Old Thread: http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=41064&start=0&rid=5339
Thanks.
Brian
P.S. Other than this hiccup, this was my first "long" trip without any major problems (2200 miles), including searing heat in Southern and Central California. I hope more trips go like this!!
Brian K
1977 Eleganza II, TZE167V100261
Sherman Oaks, CA
Rebuilt 455, New brake system, a lot of Original Equipment ready to fall apart (discovering more as I go along....)
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| Re: Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary? [message #335056 is a reply to message #335055] |
Fri, 13 July 2018 16:15  |
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Starter is not that difficult to remove. If you question it's reliability at all, pull it and have a starter/alternator shop go through it. It may surprise you how well it spins over after a good quality rebuilder is done with it. . I am not a fan at all of "rebuilt or new" starters from any auto part store. A bad starter will leave you stranded.
Boost solenoid can be removed as long as you know why and what you are doing in terms of battery seperation.
I personally am also a fan of the boost solenoid as it can give you some options when other things fail to keep on the road.
Jon Roche
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| Re: [GMCnet] Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary? [message #335057 is a reply to message #335055] |
Fri, 13 July 2018 16:17 |
Rob
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The boost solenoid isn't necessary. The only function it serves is to provide an "easy" method to boost yourself, in the very rare times that is required.
Having said that - it's pretty easy to verify and/or replace as needed (it's a very simple device). I replaced mine for under $15 - IMO, that's a lot of insurance for such a low cost.
Rob
Victoria, BC
76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath
> On Jul 13, 2018, at 1:59 PM, Brian Krikorian wrote:
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> Hi everyone,
>
> As a follow up on my earlier post (link below if anyone is bored), I ended up cleaning and tightening most of my 12v connections up front. While I
> had a few loose spots, it didn't solve the "hot starting" problem I was having. My friend who sold me (and occasionally works on) the GMC suggested
> it may be that the starter is getting too hot on the long drives (it was in the 100s throughout CA when I was there), and to let it rest. So on the
> trip home to Seattle from Los Angeles, I pretty much just kept it running at gas and rest stops, and once I plugged in at a camping stop, it would
> cold start fine (over and over).
>
> So, now that I'm home I'm going to start seeing if I can narrow it down to whether my starter or starter solenoid is going. In the meantime, I wanted
> to start organizing and cleaning up the morass of wires I have in the front engine compartments. My boost solenoid looks like it has seen better
> days. In light of the prevailing community thoughts that the boost switch should be rarely, if ever used, my question is: Can I just eliminate the
> Boost Solenoid and not have it? Other than rendering the Boost switch useless, would that screw up anything else?
>
> Old Thread: http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=41064&start=0&rid=5339
>
> Thanks.
>
> Brian
>
> P.S. Other than this hiccup, this was my first "long" trip without any major problems (2200 miles), including searing heat in Southern and Central
> California. I hope more trips go like this!!
>
>
>
> --
> Brian K
> 1977 Eleganza II, TZE167V100261
> Bellevue, WA
> Rebuilt 455, New brake system, a lot of Original Equipment ready to fall apart (discovering more as I go along....)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary? [message #335059 is a reply to message #335055] |
Fri, 13 July 2018 16:19 |
Kingsley Coach
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From personal experience, I lost a fan belt one time while traveling at
night. I switched to the 'other' battery to keep the lights on until I got
to a good stopping spot for the night. I'd say, Keep It !
Now for the starter...get creative and make a heat shield for it. The more
heat you can keep from it the better it will work.
Mike in NS
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Brian Krikorian wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> As a follow up on my earlier post (link below if anyone is bored), I ended
> up cleaning and tightening most of my 12v connections up front. While I
> had a few loose spots, it didn't solve the "hot starting" problem I was
> having. My friend who sold me (and occasionally works on) the GMC suggested
> it may be that the starter is getting too hot on the long drives (it was
> in the 100s throughout CA when I was there), and to let it rest. So on the
> trip home to Seattle from Los Angeles, I pretty much just kept it running
> at gas and rest stops, and once I plugged in at a camping stop, it would
> cold start fine (over and over).
>
> So, now that I'm home I'm going to start seeing if I can narrow it down to
> whether my starter or starter solenoid is going. In the meantime, I wanted
> to start organizing and cleaning up the morass of wires I have in the
> front engine compartments. My boost solenoid looks like it has seen better
> days. In light of the prevailing community thoughts that the boost switch
> should be rarely, if ever used, my question is: Can I just eliminate the
> Boost Solenoid and not have it? Other than rendering the Boost switch
> useless, would that screw up anything else?
>
> Old Thread: http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=
> 41064&start=0&rid=5339
>
> Thanks.
>
> Brian
>
> P.S. Other than this hiccup, this was my first "long" trip without any
> major problems (2200 miles), including searing heat in Southern and Central
> California. I hope more trips go like this!!
>
>
>
> --
> Brian K
> 1977 Eleganza II, TZE167V100261
> Bellevue, WA
> Rebuilt 455, New brake system, a lot of Original Equipment ready to fall
> apart (discovering more as I go along....)
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary? [message #335060 is a reply to message #335058] |
Fri, 13 July 2018 16:36 |
James Hupy
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The boost solenoid is continuous duty. The starter solenoids, are not and
will overheat in continuous use. Jim K and Jim Bounds both have the correct
ones.
Jim Hupy
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 2:29 PM Brian Krikorian wrote:
> So is something like this correct, even though it's called a Starter
> Solenoid (looks similar). I found this on one of Bill Massey's posts.
>
> https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/ECHST80
> --
> Brian K
> 1977 Eleganza II, TZE167V100261
> Bellevue, WA
> Rebuilt 455, New brake system, a lot of Original Equipment ready to fall
> apart (discovering more as I go along....)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary? [message #335061 is a reply to message #335059] |
Fri, 13 July 2018 16:34 |
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You say it isn’t needed because if the rare times it’s used.
That may be but if your engine battery or your Onan start battery goes dead you’ll be glad you have the boost switch to get things started.
Especially if it happens on an exit ramp or on a busy highway where it would be difficult to get out and arrange for a jump from another battery.
It’s a very convenient feature and not hard to keep it maintained.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Jul 13, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Kingsley Coach wrote:
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> From personal experience, I lost a fan belt one time while traveling at
> night. I switched to the 'other' battery to keep the lights on until I got
> to a good stopping spot for the night. I'd say, Keep It !
>
> Now for the starter...get creative and make a heat shield for it. The more
> heat you can keep from it the better it will work.
>
> Mike in NS
>
>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Brian Krikorian wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> As a follow up on my earlier post (link below if anyone is bored), I ended
>> up cleaning and tightening most of my 12v connections up front. While I
>> had a few loose spots, it didn't solve the "hot starting" problem I was
>> having. My friend who sold me (and occasionally works on) the GMC suggested
>> it may be that the starter is getting too hot on the long drives (it was
>> in the 100s throughout CA when I was there), and to let it rest. So on the
>> trip home to Seattle from Los Angeles, I pretty much just kept it running
>> at gas and rest stops, and once I plugged in at a camping stop, it would
>> cold start fine (over and over).
>>
>> So, now that I'm home I'm going to start seeing if I can narrow it down to
>> whether my starter or starter solenoid is going. In the meantime, I wanted
>> to start organizing and cleaning up the morass of wires I have in the
>> front engine compartments. My boost solenoid looks like it has seen better
>> days. In light of the prevailing community thoughts that the boost switch
>> should be rarely, if ever used, my question is: Can I just eliminate the
>> Boost Solenoid and not have it? Other than rendering the Boost switch
>> useless, would that screw up anything else?
>>
>> Old Thread: http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=
>> 41064&start=0&rid=5339
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> P.S. Other than this hiccup, this was my first "long" trip without any
>> major problems (2200 miles), including searing heat in Southern and Central
>> California. I hope more trips go like this!!
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Brian K
>> 1977 Eleganza II, TZE167V100261
>> Bellevue, WA
>> Rebuilt 455, New brake system, a lot of Original Equipment ready to fall
>> apart (discovering more as I go along....)
>>
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> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> Antigonish, NS
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| Re: [GMCnet] Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary? [message #335063 is a reply to message #335058] |
Fri, 13 July 2018 16:39 |
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It isn’t just an ordinary starter solenoid. You want to buy a continuous duty one. If it doesn’t have that rating it may not last long.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Jul 13, 2018, at 3:28 PM, Brian Krikorian wrote:
>
> So is something like this correct, even though it's called a Starter Solenoid (looks similar). I found this on one of Bill Massey's posts.
>
> https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/ECHST80
> --
> Brian K
> 1977 Eleganza II, TZE167V100261
> Bellevue, WA
> Rebuilt 455, New brake system, a lot of Original Equipment ready to fall apart (discovering more as I go along....)
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary? [message #335064 is a reply to message #335055] |
Fri, 13 July 2018 16:45 |
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Brian,
Did you ever try using the boost solenoid when starting the coach?
The extra amperage might help.
Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio
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From: "Brian Krikorian"
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 4:59 PM
To:
Subject: [GMCnet] Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary?
> Hi everyone,
>
> As a follow up on my earlier post (link below if anyone is bored), I ended
> up cleaning and tightening most of my 12v connections up front. While I
> had a few loose spots, it didn't solve the "hot starting" problem I was
> having. My friend who sold me (and occasionally works on) the GMC
> suggested
> it may be that the starter is getting too hot on the long drives (it was
> in the 100s throughout CA when I was there), and to let it rest. So on
> the
> trip home to Seattle from Los Angeles, I pretty much just kept it running
> at gas and rest stops, and once I plugged in at a camping stop, it would
> cold start fine (over and over).
>
> So, now that I'm home I'm going to start seeing if I can narrow it down to
> whether my starter or starter solenoid is going. In the meantime, I
> wanted
> to start organizing and cleaning up the morass of wires I have in the
> front engine compartments. My boost solenoid looks like it has seen
> better
> days. In light of the prevailing community thoughts that the boost switch
> should be rarely, if ever used, my question is: Can I just eliminate the
> Boost Solenoid and not have it? Other than rendering the Boost switch
> useless, would that screw up anything else?
>
> Old Thread:
> http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=41064&start=0&rid=5339
>
> Thanks.
>
> Brian
>
> P.S. Other than this hiccup, this was my first "long" trip without any
> major problems (2200 miles), including searing heat in Southern and
> Central
> California. I hope more trips go like this!!
>
>
>
> --
> Brian K
> 1977 Eleganza II, TZE167V100261
> Bellevue, WA
> Rebuilt 455, New brake system, a lot of Original Equipment ready to fall
> apart (discovering more as I go along....)
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary? [message #335065 is a reply to message #335060] |
Fri, 13 July 2018 16:50 |
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Jim,
My MH has the momentary boost switch...so would the starter solenoid ones still be okay? I did check at Applied, but didn't see anything when I did.
James Hupy wrote on Fri, 13 July 2018 14:36The boost solenoid is continuous duty. The starter solenoids, are not and
will overheat in continuous use. Jim K and Jim Bounds both have the correct
ones.
Jim Hupy
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 2:29 PM Brian Krikorian wrote:
> So is something like this correct, even though it's called a Starter
> Solenoid (looks similar). I found this on one of Bill Massey's posts.
>
> https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/ECHST80
> --
> Brian K
> 1977 Eleganza II, TZE167V100261
> Bellevue, WA
> Rebuilt 455, New brake system, a lot of Original Equipment ready to fall
> apart (discovering more as I go along....)
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary? [message #335067 is a reply to message #335063] |
Fri, 13 July 2018 16:52 |
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Apparently you have not ued your coach much.
I have had mine for 37years and it comes in very handy.
It is like a spare tire, but does not take up space or weigh much.
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Emery Stora via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> It isn’t just an ordinary starter solenoid. You want to buy a continuous
> duty one. If it doesn’t have that rating it may not last long.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
>
>> On Jul 13, 2018, at 3:28 PM, Brian Krikorian wrote:
>>
>> So is something like this correct, even though it's called a Starter
> Solenoid (looks similar). I found this on one of Bill Massey's posts.
>>
>> https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/ECHST80
>> --
>> Brian K
>> 1977 Eleganza II, TZE167V100261
>> Bellevue, WA
>> Rebuilt 455, New brake system, a lot of Original Equipment ready to fall
> apart (discovering more as I go along....)
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary? [message #335069 is a reply to message #335060] |
Fri, 13 July 2018 17:06 |
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Notice under the "Features" title at the bottom of the NAPA ad: It IS a
continuous duty solenoid -- just what one wants for a boost solenoid.
While expensive, it does have silver plated contacts which should stand up
better than pure copper (the P/N for which is also listed there).
How do you folks with momentary action boost switches handle the situation
when you need to use the Onan to power the engine? I'd sure hate to be
without my locking boost switch. In fact, if I had one of the momentary
ones, I'd try removing the spring to see if I could make it lock.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, Troy-Bilt APU, etc., etc., etc.
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On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 5:36 PM James Hupy wrote:
> The boost solenoid is continuous duty. The starter solenoids, are not and
> will overheat in continuous use. Jim K and Jim Bounds both have the correct
> ones.
> Jim Hupy
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 2:29 PM Brian Krikorian wrote:
>
>> So is something like this correct, even though it's called a Starter
>> Solenoid (looks similar). I found this on one of Bill Massey's posts.
>>
>> https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/ECHST80
>> --
>> Brian K
>> 1977 Eleganza II, TZE167V100261
>> Bellevue, WA
>> Rebuilt 455, New brake system, a lot of Original Equipment ready to fall
>> apart (discovering more as I go along....)
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary? [message #335072 is a reply to message #335070] |
Fri, 13 July 2018 17:27 |
Ken Henderson
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Brian,
If your boost solenoid is still working every time, I wouldn't worry much
about its appearance. But if you do want to replace it, there are good
replacements much cheaper, as shown by a Google or Amazon search for
"continuous duty starter solenoid", which yields such as this for $13.49
with free Prime shipping:
https://goo.gl/NedbuF
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, Troy-Bilt APU, etc., etc., etc.
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 6:15 PM Brian Krikorian wrote:
> Thanks Ken. I didn't notice the "extended use" language on that. $50
> isn't the end of the world when you consider being stuck somewhere......
> --
> Brian K
> 1977 Eleganza II, TZE167V100261
> Bellevue, WA
> Rebuilt 455, New brake system, a lot of Original Equipment ready to fall
> apart (discovering more as I go along....)
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary? [message #335073 is a reply to message #335072] |
Fri, 13 July 2018 17:39 |
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Nothing wrong with the one ken posted. The idea is to have the continious duty, and the highest amp one you want to spend money on.
Here is the one I have bought:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005K2429I/ref=oh_aui_i_sh_in_o0_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I also keep a jumper wire in my "emergency" kit so I can wire that solenoid on if I need to.
Other items in my bag are schrader valves, distributor module, governor gear, VOM meter, and fuel filters.
A GMC with all its systems working stock is very reliable.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary? [message #335074 is a reply to message #335065] |
Fri, 13 July 2018 17:43 |
Kosier
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Brian,
My understanding has always been that the continuous duty solenoids have a
metal case and the intermittent ones are bakelite.
However, with the Chinese in the game, that could change. And the later
switches have a return spring in them because people
would forget and leave them on when dry camping and run both batteries dead,
leaving them helpless.
Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio
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From: "Brian Krikorian"
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 5:50 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary?
> Jim,
>
> My MH has the momentary boost switch...so would the starter solenoid ones
> still be okay? I did check at Applied, but didn't see anything when I
> did.
>
>
>
> James Hupy wrote on Fri, 13 July 2018 14:36
>> The boost solenoid is continuous duty. The starter solenoids, are not and
>> will overheat in continuous use. Jim K and Jim Bounds both have the
>> correct
>> ones.
>> Jim Hupy
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 2:29 PM Brian Krikorian wrote:
>>
>>> So is something like this correct, even though it's called a Starter
>>> Solenoid (looks similar). I found this on one of Bill Massey's posts.
>>>
>>> https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/ECHST80
>>> --
>>> Brian K
>>> 1977 Eleganza II, TZE167V100261
>>> Bellevue, WA
>>> Rebuilt 455, New brake system, a lot of Original Equipment ready to
>>> fall
>>> apart (discovering more as I go along....)
>>>
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> --
> Brian K
> 1977 Eleganza II, TZE167V100261
> Bellevue, WA
> Rebuilt 455, New brake system, a lot of Original Equipment ready to fall
> apart (discovering more as I go along....)
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary? [message #335077 is a reply to message #335074] |
Fri, 13 July 2018 19:18 |
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USAussie
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G'day,
Here's JimB's solution to battery switches:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/aa-miscellaneous-photos/p39553-battery-switches.html
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Kosier
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 5:43 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary?
Brian,
My understanding has always been that the continuous duty solenoids have a
metal case and the intermittent ones are bakelite.
However, with the Chinese in the game, that could change. And the later
switches have a return spring in them because people
would forget and leave them on when dry camping and run both batteries dead,
leaving them helpless.
Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Brian Krikorian"
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 5:50 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary?
> Jim,
>
> My MH has the momentary boost switch...so would the starter solenoid ones
> still be okay? I did check at Applied, but didn't see anything when I
> did.
>
>
>
> James Hupy wrote on Fri, 13 July 2018 14:36
>> The boost solenoid is continuous duty. The starter solenoids, are not and
>> will overheat in continuous use. Jim K and Jim Bounds both have the
>> correct
>> ones.
>> Jim Hupy
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 2:29 PM Brian Krikorian wrote:
>>
>>> So is something like this correct, even though it's called a Starter
>>> Solenoid (looks similar). I found this on one of Bill Massey's posts.
>>>
>>> https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/ECHST80
>>> --
>>> Brian K
>>> 1977 Eleganza II, TZE167V100261
>>> Bellevue, WA
>>> Rebuilt 455, New brake system, a lot of Original Equipment ready to
>>> fall
>>> apart (discovering more as I go along....)
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
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>
>
> --
> Brian K
> 1977 Eleganza II, TZE167V100261
> Bellevue, WA
> Rebuilt 455, New brake system, a lot of Original Equipment ready to fall
> apart (discovering more as I go along....)
>
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary? [message #335078 is a reply to message #335077] |
Fri, 13 July 2018 19:47 |
Ken Henderson
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Location: Americus, GA
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Why? Not convenient. Of no value if there's fire at that area (as for
John Richardson). An improvement over OEM would be replacement of the
house and chassis battery switches with remotely controlled relays, such as
the Intellitec battery disconnect relay (which I have). It's a toggle
relay which draws no current except during activation. It can be
controlled from multiple locations with DPDT momentary switches. It MIGHT
have been operable during the early stages of even Richardson's fire, which
erupted into exactly that area. Probably no more expensive than those
manual rotary switches. https://goo.gl/CHDwd8 (cheaper elsewhere).
JMHO,
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, Troy-Bilt APU, etc., etc., etc.
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 8:18 PM Rob Mueller wrote:
> G'day,
>
> Here's JimB's solution to battery switches:
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/aa-miscellaneous-photos/p39553-battery-switches.html
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary
> Kosier
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 5:43 PM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary?
>
> Brian,
>
> My understanding has always been that the continuous duty solenoids have a
> metal case and the intermittent ones are bakelite.
> However, with the Chinese in the game, that could change. And the later
> switches have a return spring in them because people
> would forget and leave them on when dry camping and run both batteries
> dead,
> leaving them helpless.
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Brian Krikorian"
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 5:50 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Is the Boost Solenoid Necessary?
>
>> Jim,
>>
>> My MH has the momentary boost switch...so would the starter solenoid
> ones
>> still be okay? I did check at Applied, but didn't see anything when I
>> did.
>>
>>
>>
>> James Hupy wrote on Fri, 13 July 2018 14:36
>>> The boost solenoid is continuous duty. The starter solenoids, are not
> and
>>> will overheat in continuous use. Jim K and Jim Bounds both have the
>>> correct
>>> ones.
>>> Jim Hupy
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 2:29 PM Brian Krikorian wrote:
>>>
>>>> So is something like this correct, even though it's called a Starter
>>>> Solenoid (looks similar). I found this on one of Bill Massey's
> posts.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/ECHST80
>>>> --
>>>> Brian K
>>>> 1977 Eleganza II, TZE167V100261
>>>> Bellevue, WA
>>>> Rebuilt 455, New brake system, a lot of Original Equipment ready to
>>>> fall
>>>> apart (discovering more as I go along....)
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>
>>
>> --
>> Brian K
>> 1977 Eleganza II, TZE167V100261
>> Bellevue, WA
>> Rebuilt 455, New brake system, a lot of Original Equipment ready to fall
>> apart (discovering more as I go along....)
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>
>
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Large Wiring Diagrams
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