GMCforum
For enthusiast of the Classic GMC Motorhome built from 1973 to 1978. A web-based mirror of the GMCnet mailing list.

Home » GMC » GMCnet » [GMCnet] Anyone ever see Lower Contro Arms like these?
[GMCnet] Anyone ever see Lower Contro Arms like these? [message #325801] Mon, 06 November 2017 21:16 Go to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
Messages: 15496
Registered: July 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia
Karma: 42
Senior Member
G'day,

I'm in the process of zero timing the front end and I was going to reinforce the lower control arms, however, I don't think I'll
have touch these!

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g7109-kingsley-27s-lower-control-arms.html

Anybody ever seen any like this before? This coach was "built" by Clarence Buskirk and I suspect this may be his handiwork.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
 



_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org



Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Anyone ever see Lower Contro Arms like these? [message #325802 is a reply to message #325801] Mon, 06 November 2017 22:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hal kading is currently offline  hal kading   United States
Messages: 625
Registered: February 2004
Location: Las Cruces NM
Karma: 4
Senior Member
Rob,

the lower control arms on my Buskirk Stretch were modified/strengthened similar to those.

Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Stretch Las Cruces NM


Hal Kading 1978 Buskirk 502 Las Cruces NM
Re: [GMCnet] Anyone ever see Lower Contro Arms like these? [message #325803 is a reply to message #325801] Mon, 06 November 2017 22:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
Messages: 2431
Registered: January 2004
Karma: 7
Senior Member
Rob,

All the Buskirk Stretch coaches have this style lower A arm. They have a billet hex material instead of the steel on the stock arms along with the zerk fitting to grease the hex where the torsion bar fits. They are reinforced with steel plate at least 1/4” in thickness and welded. It is a truly bulletproof assembly.

JR
> On Nov 6, 2017, at 10:16 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:


>
> G'day,
>
> I'm in the process of zero timing the front end and I was going to reinforce the lower control arms, however, I don't think I'll
> have touch these!
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g7109-kingsley-27s-lower-control-arms.html
>
> Anybody ever seen any like this before? This coach was "built" by Clarence Buskirk and I suspect this may be his handiwork.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org


_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org


J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
GMC Eastern States
GMCMI
78 30' Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion Under Reconstruction
Michigan
Re: [GMCnet] Anyone ever see Lower Contro Arms like these? [message #325804 is a reply to message #325803] Mon, 06 November 2017 22:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
Messages: 4498
Registered: July 2006
Location: Belmont, CA
Karma: 5
Senior Member
Clarence was always working on things, to improve them.
He use to call and discuss my Twin Turbo and Cad engine.


Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC
jimk-AT-appliedairfilters-DOT-com
www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
Re: [GMCnet] Anyone ever see Lower Contro Arms like these? [message #325813 is a reply to message #325804] Tue, 07 November 2017 07:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
Messages: 15496
Registered: July 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia
Karma: 42
Senior Member
G'day,

I guessed right!

I've reviewed the photos that showed how Clarence built the 29 foot stretches and was really impressed by his work.

I would have loved to meet the man.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808



_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org



Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Anyone ever see Lower Contro Arms like these? [message #325834 is a reply to message #325813] Tue, 07 November 2017 18:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
Messages: 2485
Registered: March 2009
Karma: 2
Senior Member
I unfortunately only met him once but every word out of his mouth contained
more awesomeness than the one before to this Newbie at the time !
Mike in NS


Virus-free.
www.avast.com



On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Rob Mueller wrote:

> G'day,
>
> I guessed right!
>
> I've reviewed the photos that showed how Clarence built the 29 foot
> stretches and was really impressed by his work.
>
> I would have loved to meet the man.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>



--
Michael Beaton
1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS

Life is too short to hold a grudge; slash some tires and call it even !
_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org

Re: [GMCnet] Anyone ever see Lower Contro Arms like these? [message #325866 is a reply to message #325834] Wed, 08 November 2017 17:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
Messages: 2431
Registered: January 2004
Karma: 7
Senior Member
Rob,

Living only 85 miles from Sandusky, Mi I was able to go to Buskirk’s shop many many times. When we bought our first GMC from a great lady in Lansing Mi named Gladys Rogers she told us that she always had it serviced at Buskirk’s. So we went to see Clarence to check on the coach we want to buy. The man was a very unique person and always thinking on how to do things. We spent a morning the first visit talking about the coach we want to purchase and he showed us the stretch coach they were completing for a customer. Little would we know that we would be the owners of the coach 12 years later and become the 3rd owners.

He was alway showing the latest trick stuff that he had installed on his personal coach and on other coaches. He was an amazing person and one of the giants in the GMC World.

JR

> On Nov 7, 2017, at 7:18 PM, Kingsley Coach wrote:
>
> I unfortunately only met him once but every word out of his mouth contained
> more awesomeness than the one before to this Newbie at the time !
> Mike in NS
>
>
> Virus-free.
> www.avast.com
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Rob Mueller wrote:
>
>> G'day,
>>
>> I guessed right!
>>
>> I've reviewed the photos that showed how Clarence built the 29 foot
>> stretches and was really impressed by his work.
>>
>> I would have loved to meet the man.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob M.
>> The Pedantic Mechanic
>> Sydney, Australia
>> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>>


_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org


J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
GMC Eastern States
GMCMI
78 30' Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion Under Reconstruction
Michigan
Re: [GMCnet] Anyone ever see Lower Contro Arms like these? [message #325868 is a reply to message #325866] Wed, 08 November 2017 19:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
Messages: 15496
Registered: July 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia
Karma: 42
Senior Member
JR,

Well today I discovered something else unique about the Kingsley; the driver side front had a 3 bearing setup ala Wallace hubs / knuckles. I called Dave Lenzi to see if he wanted it as a core for the hubs and knuckles I got from him and he noted he could not use them. He told me Clarence made them as well as Wallace. I'm glad he can't use them as I couldn't get the three outer seal retainer bolts loose! I'll have to make a special wrench to get them out.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces-AT-list-DOT-gmcnet-DOT-org] On Behalf Of John Wright
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 5:56 PM
To: GMC Net
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Anyone ever see Lower Contro Arms like these?

Rob,

Living only 85 miles from Sandusky, Mi I was able to go to Buskirk’s shop many many times. When we bought our first GMC from a great lady in Lansing Mi named Gladys Rogers she told us that she always had it serviced at Buskirk’s. So we went to see Clarence to check on the coach we want to buy. The man was a very unique person and always thinking on how to do things. We spent a morning the first visit talking about the coach we want to purchase and he showed us the stretch coach they were completing for a customer. Little would we know that we would be the owners of the coach 12 years later and become the 3rd owners.

He was alway showing the latest trick stuff that he had installed on his personal coach and on other coaches. He was an amazing person and one of the giants in the GMC World.

JR


_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org


Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Anyone ever see Lower Contro Arms like these? [message #325880 is a reply to message #325868] Wed, 08 November 2017 22:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
Messages: 2431
Registered: January 2004
Karma: 7
Senior Member
Rob,
The 3 bearing assembly that Clarence made was different from the Wallace hubs, the middle bearing was different. If you remember Caspro they sold the 3 bears assemblies and listed it in their catalog and those were made for Caspro by Buskirk. I had talked with Dave earlier in the years on going thru what I have and he said that would, but Hal Kalding has had his A-arms redone to use the 1 ton front end. If I get time next year that is what I will do also.

see: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p63928-3-bearing-hub.html

JR


> On Nov 8, 2017, at 8:08 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
>
> JR,
>
> Well today I discovered something else unique about the Kingsley; the driver side front had a 3 bearing setup ala Wallace hubs / knuckles. I called Dave Lenzi to see if he wanted it as a core for the hubs and knuckles I got from him and he noted he could not use them. He told me Clarence made them as well as Wallace. I'm glad he can't use them as I couldn't get the three outer seal retainer bolts loose! I'll have to make a special wrench to get them out.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces-AT-list-DOT-gmcnet-DOT-org] On Behalf Of John Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 5:56 PM
> To: GMC Net
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Anyone ever see Lower Contro Arms like these?
>
> Rob,
>
> Living only 85 miles from Sandusky, Mi I was able to go to Buskirk’s shop many many times. When we bought our first GMC from a great lady in Lansing Mi named Gladys Rogers she told us that she always had it serviced at Buskirk’s. So we went to see Clarence to check on the coach we want to buy. The man was a very unique person and always thinking on how to do things. We spent a morning the first visit talking about the coach we want to purchase and he showed us the stretch coach they were completing for a customer. Little would we know that we would be the owners of the coach 12 years later and become the 3rd owners.
>
> He was alway showing the latest trick stuff that he had installed on his personal coach and on other coaches. He was an amazing person and one of the giants in the GMC World.
>
> JR
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org


_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org


J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
GMC Eastern States
GMCMI
78 30' Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion Under Reconstruction
Michigan
Re: [GMCnet] Anyone ever see Lower Contro Arms like these? [message #325886 is a reply to message #325880] Thu, 09 November 2017 06:55 Go to previous message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
Messages: 15496
Registered: July 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia
Karma: 42
Senior Member
JR,

When I spoke with Dave he explained the difference between the Wallace and Buskirk hubs.

The Kingsley has a Buskirk hub / knuckle on the driver side and an OEM on the passenger side. Therefore the Buskirk on the passenger side failed somewhere along the line.

I installed a set of Dave's hubs / knuckles (with grease zerk) in Double Trouble back in 2009 and since they have work perfectly I purchased a set for the Kingsley. I also purchased two new rotors.

I've got the upper and lower control arms disassembled and will install new ball joints in both and urethane bushings in the lowers and rubber in the uppers with an offset bushing in the rear to enable me to get a bit more caster if I need it.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces-AT-list-DOT-gmcnet-DOT-org] On Behalf Of John Wright
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 10:42 PM
To: GMC Net
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Anyone ever see Lower Contro Arms like these?

Rob,
The 3 bearing assembly that Clarence made was different from the Wallace hubs, the middle bearing was different. If you remember Caspro they sold the 3 bears assemblies and listed it in their catalog and those were made for Caspro by Buskirk. I had talked with Dave earlier in the years on going thru what I have and he said that would, but Hal Kalding has had his A-arms redone to use the 1 ton front end. If I get time next year that is what I will do also.

see: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p63928-3-bearing-hub.html

JR


_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org



Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Previous Topic: [GMCnet] Windshield manufacturer (Finnland / Europe)?
Next Topic: Seal between P30 MC and booster.
Goto Forum:
  


Current Time: Mon Dec 11 20:49:14 CST 2017

Total time taken to generate the page: 0.04304 seconds