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Colorado timing chain [message #320687] Wed, 19 July 2017 20:31 Go to next message
thorndike is currently offline  thorndike   United States
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Just an update about my timing chain.

I am eyeballs deep into some major home renovations that have a hard deadline so I realized that I didnt have the time to do this repair myself. At the advice of another owner I researched and found a local mobile mechanic who is willing and able to review and perform the work. He works on older hot rods so is used to our vintage of automobiles.

I was hoping to ask you all what else should be replaced during the repair while everything is apart.

Any suggestions?


Robert Peesel 1976 Royale 26' Side Dry Bath Conifer, Colorado
Re: [GMCnet] Colorado timing chain [message #320693 is a reply to message #320687] Wed, 19 July 2017 21:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Robert,

Most of your hoses, including all of the radiator hoses will be disturbed,
so unless they're fairly new, now's the time to replace them. LIkewise for
the transmission and engine cooler lines. Similarly, the radiator will be
out, so it may be worthwhile to have it checked and cleaned by a reputable
radiator shop. Finally, I'd examine the water pump carefully. If it has
no sign of leakage around the input shaft and if it spins freely, I
wouldn't risk replacing it with a "new", possibly short-lived replacement.
But if it fails any test, buy the best one you can find -- someone will
hopefully direct you to an all ball or roller bearing model; I can't.

I can't think of anything else that will be disturbed or easier to handle
now than later.

JWID,

Ken H.

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Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc., etc.
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On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 9:31 PM, Robert Peesel wrote:

> Just an update about my timing chain.
>
> I am eyeballs deep into some major home renovations that have a hard
> deadline so I realized that I didnt have the time to do this repair
> myself. At
> the advice of another owner I researched and found a local mobile
> mechanic who is willing and able to review and perform the work. He works
> on older
> hot rods so is used to our vintage of automobiles.
>
> I was hoping to ask you all what else should be replaced during the repair
> while everything is apart.
>
> Any suggestions?
> --
> Robert Peesel
>
> 1976 Royale 26'
>
> Side Dry Bath
>
> Conifer, Colorado
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Colorado timing chain [message #320698 is a reply to message #320693] Wed, 19 July 2017 23:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bullitthead is currently offline  Bullitthead   United States
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Don't forget the belts and the heater hoses!

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: [GMCnet] Colorado timing chain [message #320745 is a reply to message #320698] Thu, 20 July 2017 22:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thorndike is currently offline  thorndike   United States
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Terry,

If I get Toronado belts and hoses for the appropriate year, will that be appropriate?


Robert Peesel 1976 Royale 26' Side Dry Bath Conifer, Colorado
Re: [GMCnet] Colorado timing chain [message #320747 is a reply to message #320745] Thu, 20 July 2017 23:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Toronado hoses will NOT fit. Belts maybe. Look in the GMCMI parts interchange for the appropriate numbers. Be sure to get 7/16" (11mm.) wide belts. Do not trust the package. Try to put a 10 mm. wide open end wrench across the belt. It the belt goes in the 10 mm. wrench, IT IS THE WRONG WIDTH BELT.



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Re: [GMCnet] Colorado timing chain [message #320748 is a reply to message #320747] Thu, 20 July 2017 23:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thorndike is currently offline  thorndike   United States
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Thanks Ken,

I've been having real problems logging into the parts interchange site on gmcmi.com tonight. My printed parts interchange is currently in the GMC so I don't have it available at the moment.

I will be picking up the new parts for the mechanic to reinstall.

I really wish I was able to tackle this myself, but this summer has been the busiest I can remember.

Bob


Robert Peesel 1976 Royale 26' Side Dry Bath Conifer, Colorado
Re: [GMCnet] Colorado timing chain [message #320749 is a reply to message #320748] Thu, 20 July 2017 23:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
roy1 is currently offline  roy1   United States
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I have replaced mine with the radiator in place it is tight but there is enough room. I would use a cloyes true roller chain if you don't want to chance the chain stretching it's worth the extra money. Don't forget to replace the crankshaft seal while you have it out. Don't let your mechanic support the engine by jacking it up on the oil pan sump or it could push the pan up against the oil pump pickup.

Roy Keen Minden,NV 76 X Glenbrook
Re: [GMCnet] Colorado timing chain [message #320750 is a reply to message #320749] Thu, 20 July 2017 23:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thorndike is currently offline  thorndike   United States
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Good info, Roy.

Is there a document that describes the best way to do this repair? I'd like to read it over so I know what is going on and then send it to the mechanic.

Thanks for the info on the chain.

Bob


Robert Peesel 1976 Royale 26' Side Dry Bath Conifer, Colorado
Re: [GMCnet] Colorado timing chain [message #320751 is a reply to message #320745] Fri, 21 July 2017 00:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For the best belt fit, take your old ones (intact) to the parts store and use their gauge to measure and size the belt. Follow Ken's advice on the width and don't get the narrow belts. I ended up getting a lawn mower duty belt for the AC pump on mine to satisfy the pump pulley. Maybe it's not the original pump, maybe it came off of a Case tractor, but it needed that large size belt in that pulley to transmit the torque without slipping. All the possibilities from the parts store dropped down to the bottom of the groove and slipped every time the compressor was turned on because there was no wedge effect.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: [GMCnet] Colorado timing chain [message #320758 is a reply to message #320751] Fri, 21 July 2017 08:44 Go to previous message
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