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Project Icebox update [message #314810] Fri, 17 March 2017 19:16 Go to next message
SeanKidd is currently offline  SeanKidd   United States
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With all this snow on the ground, why not add an auxiliary evaporator or two...summer is coming.
Just got my hydracrimp and fittings, 2 17k btu evaporators...and A6 rebuild kit. I'll post progress.
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73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.
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Re: Project Icebox sneak peek [message #314811 is a reply to message #314810] Fri, 17 March 2017 19:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SeanKidd is currently offline  SeanKidd   United States
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Here is the passenger duct, the in dash units Has 4 2'" ports....in back feed the front passenger dash vent with one. Thes duct was tricky to remove since it is riveted in place, I will need to come up with a creative way to reconnect blind behind the dash.

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73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.
Colonial Travelers
Re: Project Icebox sneak peek [message #314816 is a reply to message #314810] Fri, 17 March 2017 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SpookyEng is currently offline  SpookyEng   United States
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I look forward to seeing the project. You can never have too much A/C!

JD Lisenby- USAF Ret 1978 Royale-455 Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition Navarre, FL
Re: Project Icebox sneak peek [message #314857 is a reply to message #314816] Sat, 18 March 2017 13:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just bought a 13000 btu heater cooler. I was thinking about mounting it in the cabinet where the vacuum is but not sure.
Looking forward to seeing your project so I can figure out my install.


1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts
Re: Project Icebox sneak peek [message #314878 is a reply to message #314810] Sat, 18 March 2017 19:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SeanKidd is currently offline  SeanKidd   United States
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The manufacturer claims this unit can be mounted vertically, but I will probably add a drip pan anyway. The depth is only 5 inches and fits between the supports on the cheek wall. The evaporator will only stick our as far as the side panel. I'll post some more details soon, this was a dry mock up.
This is the evaporator I bought...http://www.rainbowproductsonline.com/new/option2/ac-products/ac-kits2-2964.php. I plan on putting one on each side, piped in with individual solenoid valves.
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73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.
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Re: Project Icebox sneak peek [message #314960 is a reply to message #314810] Mon, 20 March 2017 13:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SteveW is currently online  SteveW   United States
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Hi Sean -

I'm VERY interested in your IceBox project - considering the same for my coach.

Great find on that evaporator and your placement idea is ingenious!! I might copy it Smile

I've always been a little hesitant about putting one in the middle under the dash - as we have a little dog that travels in her bed at that location.

Please keep us posted with progress and discoveries.

Thanks,
Steve W
1973 23'
Southern California
Re: Project Icebox update [message #318977 is a reply to message #314810] Wed, 14 June 2017 07:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SeanKidd is currently offline  SeanKidd   United States
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Got both evaporators mounted, started running hoses....resealed compressor. Snafu-the suction line on my 73 is a #12...I bought parts for #10, have to wait for order to finish...also the liquid line from compressor does not have a traditional ferrule, its integral to the line, so I need to get a couple #8 braze on fittings to replace the 44 year old hose.


Sean and Stephanie
73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.
Colonial Travelers
Re: Project Icebox update [message #319739 is a reply to message #314810] Thu, 29 June 2017 00:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SteveW is currently online  SteveW   United States
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Hi Sean -

Am I correct to conclude from your other postings that this system is alive and cooling ??

I'm really interested in doing the same... any details and/or pictures would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Steve W
1973 23'
Southern California

Re: Project Icebox update [message #319742 is a reply to message #314810] Thu, 29 June 2017 07:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Could you not skip the solenoid? Wouldn't the expansion valve simply give a bit and then not open any more since there's no air flow across it? I believe the rear air handfler in my 88 Suburban company ride worked. Skipping it would eliminate two potential leak points and one electromechanical failure point.

--johnny


76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
Re: Project Icebox update [message #319744 is a reply to message #319742] Thu, 29 June 2017 08:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, it's working, I owe you a photo or two update...although finish work and ducting not yet complete, the map pockets removed served as my primary outlet at the moment...I confirmed I get condensate dripping through the drains (a concern since the evaporators are vertical), I didn't check for other condensate leaks. I still need to wrap the TXV with the gooey black stuff to keep it cold. As you may be aware, my brazing attempt was an utter failure, and used a summit aluminum AN compression fitting designed for aluminum and a flare fitting, I'm not sure I'll keep it this way, but it held after 8 hours of driving including 5 hours in 90 degree weather last week. I was vacuuming system And preflighting and dewinterizing an hour before our trip to Abington, MD (Bar Harbor RV park)

The decision to add solenoid was somewhat based on accessibility, it was a tough go routing all that hose once crimped, and probably would have added a union or two anyway. Similar to the dash air, I wired the 3-speed switch ahead of solenoid so fan can operate on its own, but needs to be running for the solenoind push button to function.

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Sean and Stephanie
73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.
Colonial Travelers
Re: Project Icebox update [message #320603 is a reply to message #314810] Mon, 17 July 2017 15:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well over the weekend I finished trimming the side panels. With 4 outlets per auxiliary evaporator, the driver gets two in the armrest ( existing duct removed and capped under the hood) and two at my feet (still need vents). the lower intake, a bit crude is mostly hidden by the seat. BTW Valspar brown velvet is a very close match to the brown of our dash (unfaded). The passenger gets a duct in parallel to the dash outlets, and two armrest vents, the rearmost outlets are tee'd together, hopefully avoid in any dead spots on the coil. 3 speed switch "enables" evaporator solenoid (blue led backlit push on-push off) switch so fan can run with or without cooling. I may or may not connect the heaters... our OEM side panels are quite malleable with a heat gun, but if there are existing stress cracks, they will split if stretched too far as they did on my driver cup holder. I heated up panel till soft and stretched it using a 3.75" hole saw blade, and let cool. I also cut and stretched hose access With a piece of iron pipe as a mold along the floor. To ensure ice doesn't melt, I also executed the clear plastic shower curtain project, including Velcro and magnetic closures.
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Sean and Stephanie
73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.
Colonial Travelers

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Re: Project Icebox update [message #320627 is a reply to message #314810] Mon, 17 July 2017 20:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Great idea and excellent execution! Thanks for the update, it s nice to see a well thought out, practical upgrade.

JD Lisenby- USAF Ret 1978 Royale-455 Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition Navarre, FL
Re: [GMCnet] Project Icebox update [message #320640 is a reply to message #320603] Tue, 18 July 2017 08:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sean, that is some of the nicest dash work I seen. Great execution and tasteful design. I have a 73 canyonlands also. I like to modify but stay within the original concept. Thanks for the paint color tip. How difficult was the remoulding of the side panels? What seats and seat bases are you using? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess. But when it looks factory its awesome. It would be great to see the rest of your rig. Do you have any other pics posted?

Rod Utterback
1973 canyon 26ft, currently motoring in the midwest
Escondido, Ca.

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Well over the weekend I finished trimming the side panels. With 4 outlets per auxiliary evaporator, the driver gets two in the armrest ( existing
duct removed and capped under the hood) and two at my feet (still need vents). the lower intake, a bit crude is mostly hidden by the seat. BTW
Valspar brown velvet is a very close match to the brown of our dash (unfaded). The passenger gets a duct in parallel to the dash outlets, and two
armrest vents, the rearmost outlets are tee'd together, hopefully avoid in any dead spots on the coil. 3 speed switch "enables" evaporator solenoid
(blue led backlit push on-push off) switch so fan can run with or without cooling. I may or may not connect the heaters... our OEM side panels are
quite malleable with a heat gun, but if there are existing stress cracks, they will split if stretched too far as they did on my driver cup holder. I
heated up panel till soft and stretched it using a 3.75" hole saw blade, and let cool. I also cut and stretched hose access is in a piece of iro pipe
as a mold along the floor. To ensure ice doesn't melt, I also executed the clear plastic shower curtain project, including Velcro and magnetic
closures.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/7031/medium/IMG_22321.JPG

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/7031/medium/IMG_2237.JPG
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/7031/medium/IMG_2233.JPG
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Sean and Stephanie
73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.

Colonial Travelers

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Re: Project Icebox update [message #320657 is a reply to message #314810] Tue, 18 July 2017 17:14 Go to previous message
SeanKidd is currently offline  SeanKidd   United States
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Rod, thank you for your kind words, you can check out my gallery here:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/u23595-seankidd.html

The plastic side panels once evenly heated will even sag under their own weight, so be cautious, a quick cooling with a damp cloth sets it up quickly.



Sean and Stephanie
73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.
Colonial Travelers

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