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Fri, 07 July 2017 11:33  |
joewilly
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Hello all, I just purchased my first GMC last week. 1978 Royale rear twin and had a good trip back to Iowa from Wyoming (850 mi) with no issues. So now I have been going over everything and have found a few things that need attention and would appreciate any advice all you experts can give me.
the first is I have a split cv boot on the drivers side, cv joint not making any noise yet.
Is it best to R & R it with a rebuilt axle or try to remove old boot and replace with new boot.
How time consuming and challenging is this job for a newbie?
I see that some have used the split boot option with good and bad results.any opinions on this?
question #2 - It has a 4 bag rear suspension, Leigh Harrison 1999 (I think) and the bag pressure is 110 psi on the driver side and 100 psi on the pass. side. does this sound normal for this system? it seems high to me, and do you adjust the pressure at the air compressor? it's at 112 psi
any info is greatly appreciated.
thanks, Joe
Joe Williams
1978 Royale rear twin
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| Re: new owner questions [message #320093 is a reply to message #320092] |
Fri, 07 July 2017 11:49  |
lqqkatjon
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Welcome.
I dont believe you need to replace the axle. You should be just fine installing a new boot. Like you said there are
Both success
Stories and failures of split boots, but I have also had my own failures of non-split boots.
The job itself is messy, but not at all impossible. I have done a few, and I just remove tire/rim and axle nut, pop the tie rod off the knuckle and I can muscle the outer cv ut and over to be able to install a boot. It takes some muscle to flex it to come out, but do-able. I personally have only installed non-split boots and I like the dorman one now. Have had failures on some others, but the dorman one has been good now for 3-4 years.
I know a few that have a year or two and longer on some dorman split boot as well.
I do not know about your airbag system, but coach is heavier on driver side due to onan generator, so i am just guessing it is normal pressures.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions [message #320094 is a reply to message #320092] |
Fri, 07 July 2017 11:41 |
jimk
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Joe,
Depending on the milage on the coach, one might just replace the boot.
Two piece is ok, but I suggest a one piece.
Give me a so we can discuss.
On the Harrison system,it does require high pressure, just set the height
correctly.
I can also give you that info.
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Joe williams wrote:
> Hello all, I just purchased my first GMC last week. 1978 Royale rear twin
> and had a good trip back to Iowa from Wyoming (850 mi) with no issues. So
> now I have been going over everything and have found a few things that
> need attention and would appreciate any advice all you experts can give me.
> the first is I have a split cv boot on the drivers side, cv joint not
> making any noise yet.
> Is it best to R & R it with a rebuilt axle or try to remove old boot and
> replace with new boot.
> How time consuming and challenging is this job for a newbie?
> I see that some have used the split boot option with good and bad
> results.any opinions on this?
> question #2 - It has a 4 bag rear suspension, Leigh Harrison 1999 (I
> think) and the bag pressure is 110 psi on the driver side and 100 psi on the
> pass. side. does this sound normal for this system? it seems high to me,
> and do you adjust the pressure at the air compressor? it's at 112 psi
>
> any info is greatly appreciated.
> thanks, Joe
>
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> jwilly
> 1978 Royale rear twin
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| Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions [message #320097 is a reply to message #320092] |
Fri, 07 July 2017 12:25 |
Emery Stora
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I would suggest raising the pressure a bit — perhaps 120 to 130 psi. This will allow the bags to raise higher when leveling at a campsite and allow the system to fill the bags slightly faster.
Most single OEM bag systems are around 90 psi for ride height but I think I read once that the Harrison system needs more pressure to level the GMC.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Jul 7, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Joe williams wrote:
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> Hello all, I just purchased my first GMC last week. 1978 Royale rear twin and had a good trip back to Iowa from Wyoming (850 mi) with no issues. So
> now I have been going over everything and have found a few things that need attention and would appreciate any advice all you experts can give me.
> the first is I have a split cv boot on the drivers side, cv joint not making any noise yet.
> Is it best to R & R it with a rebuilt axle or try to remove old boot and replace with new boot.
> How time consuming and challenging is this job for a newbie?
> I see that some have used the split boot option with good and bad results.any opinions on this?
> question #2 - It has a 4 bag rear suspension, Leigh Harrison 1999 (I think) and the bag pressure is 110 psi on the driver side and 100 psi on the
> pass. side. does this sound normal for this system? it seems high to me, and do you adjust the pressure at the air compressor? it's at 112 psi
>
> any info is greatly appreciated.
> thanks, Joe
>
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> jwilly
> 1978 Royale rear twin
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| Re: new owner questions [message #320100 is a reply to message #320092] |
Fri, 07 July 2017 13:26 |
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Matt Colie
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Joe,
Welcome to the group, family, cult, asylum.....
A friend that sometimes writes here is now running 2 split boots. He has not been able to use the coach as much as he might have liked, but the boots have not been an issue. They are bags easier to get on than the usual boot, but it is still a mess. He did do one without even getting the axle clear of the hub. I would say that if you want to put on a usual boot, it is worth your while (including new screws and Loktite) to get the drive axle out where you can wrestle with it standing up.
After having cars with axle boots for about 40 years, I can say that taking care of it sooner beats buying a replacement joint.
You have already found the value of this community, and that puts you out ahead of many new owners. I would like to ask you to add your location to your sigfile. This forum started out as a e-mail list and many still read it that way, so they don't see the header where your location is published.
About this community, it is like few others. I have seen it rally to aid of an owner more times than I can count (yours truly is included there), and it is a thing of beauty. The only other community that I know of like this is that of the watermen that are my world. For this reason, I like to welcome new owners much as a new owner or vessel is welcomed there. So,
May the Good Lord bless this coach and all those that set forth within her.
Welcome Joe
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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| Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions [message #320101 is a reply to message #320097] |
Fri, 07 July 2017 13:37 |
jimk
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The pressure is one of the main reason Jim Bounds of Coop Mtrs consulted
with us to come up with a system that would give same control performance
in the rear suspension and have lower air pressure requirement.
Tha is when we developed the Quadra Bag System that stabilizes the rear and
run on 80-85 psi .
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Emery Stora wrote:
> I would suggest raising the pressure a bit — perhaps 120 to 130 psi. This
> will allow the bags to raise higher when leveling at a campsite and allow
> the system to fill the bags slightly faster.
> Most single OEM bag systems are around 90 psi for ride height but I think
> I read once that the Harrison system needs more pressure to level the GMC.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
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>> On Jul 7, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Joe williams wrote:
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>> Hello all, I just purchased my first GMC last week. 1978 Royale rear
> twin and had a good trip back to Iowa from Wyoming (850 mi) with no issues.
> So
>> now I have been going over everything and have found a few things that
> need attention and would appreciate any advice all you experts can give me.
>> the first is I have a split cv boot on the drivers side, cv joint not
> making any noise yet.
>> Is it best to R & R it with a rebuilt axle or try to remove old boot and
> replace with new boot.
>> How time consuming and challenging is this job for a newbie?
>> I see that some have used the split boot option with good and bad
> results.any opinions on this?
>> question #2 - It has a 4 bag rear suspension, Leigh Harrison 1999 (I
> think) and the bag pressure is 110 psi on the driver side and 100 psi on the
>> pass. side. does this sound normal for this system? it seems high to me,
> and do you adjust the pressure at the air compressor? it's at 112 psi
>>
>> any info is greatly appreciated.
>> thanks, Joe
>>
>> --
>> jwilly
>> 1978 Royale rear twin
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| Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions [message #320102 is a reply to message #320094] |
Fri, 07 July 2017 13:54 |
James Hupy
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Anything over 100 psi is not advised by either Firestone or the
manufacturer of the 72000 controller. They are both adamant in their
opposition to higher pressures and limit their remote controllers to
100psi. I have been in contact with both of them and requested that they
allow me to reprogram their systems to allow higher pressures. Both refused
to do so. As Firestone makes the bags, they probably know the safe high
limits. On single bag systems, you can add extenders to the bogie that
lowers the pressure quite a bit, that will get the system to full
extension. I don't know why you would need it to pump any more air than
that. I suspect it might be the old horsepower thing."You can never have
too much money, a girlfriend too pretty, or too much horsepower". Same
applies to air pressure, I suspect.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Jul 7, 2017 11:38 AM, "Jim Kanomata" wrote:
The pressure is one of the main reason Jim Bounds of Coop Mtrs consulted
with us to come up with a system that would give same control performance
in the rear suspension and have lower air pressure requirement.
Tha is when we developed the Quadra Bag System that stabilizes the rear and
run on 80-85 psi .
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Emery Stora wrote:
> I would suggest raising the pressure a bit — perhaps 120 to 130 psi. This
> will allow the bags to raise higher when leveling at a campsite and allow
> the system to fill the bags slightly faster.
> Most single OEM bag systems are around 90 psi for ride height but I think
> I read once that the Harrison system needs more pressure to level the GMC.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
>
>> On Jul 7, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Joe williams wrote:
>>
>> Hello all, I just purchased my first GMC last week. 1978 Royale rear
> twin and had a good trip back to Iowa from Wyoming (850 mi) with no
issues.
> So
>> now I have been going over everything and have found a few things that
> need attention and would appreciate any advice all you experts can give
me.
>> the first is I have a split cv boot on the drivers side, cv joint not
> making any noise yet.
>> Is it best to R & R it with a rebuilt axle or try to remove old boot and
> replace with new boot.
>> How time consuming and challenging is this job for a newbie?
>> I see that some have used the split boot option with good and bad
> results.any opinions on this?
>> question #2 - It has a 4 bag rear suspension, Leigh Harrison 1999 (I
> think) and the bag pressure is 110 psi on the driver side and 100 psi on
the
>> pass. side. does this sound normal for this system? it seems high to me,
> and do you adjust the pressure at the air compressor? it's at 112 psi
>>
>> any info is greatly appreciated.
>> thanks, Joe
>>
>> --
>> jwilly
>> 1978 Royale rear twin
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions [message #320105 is a reply to message #320102] |
Fri, 07 July 2017 14:24 |
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Well, I've owned my motorhome for 36 years now and the air tank pressure has been set at 130 psi most of that time.
When traveling the bags are at approximately 90 psi.
When parking on a non-level campsite they have occasionally been pumped up as high as 130. No adverse effects. The original bags lasted for over thirty years.
You say you don't know why anyone would need over 100 psi. You might consider being able to level it better at a campsite as a reason.
By the way take a look at the GMC Maintenance manual X7725. Page 4A9-4A10 says the compressor will shut off at 120 psi. Also on page 4A10 in the paragraph PRESSURE SWITCH it says " The air pressure switch is designed to maintain air pressure in the wet tank between 100 and 120 psi. Switch activates at 100 psi and opens at 120 psi.
You might want to go back to Firestone and your manufacturer of the 72000 controller and point out to them that GM used 120 psi in the bags, NOT 100 psi.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Jul 7, 2017, at 12:54 PM, James Hupy wrote:
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> Anything over 100 psi is not advised by either Firestone or the
> manufacturer of the 72000 controller. They are both adamant in their
> opposition to higher pressures and limit their remote controllers to
> 100psi. I have been in contact with both of them and requested that they
> allow me to reprogram their systems to allow higher pressures. Both refused
> to do so. As Firestone makes the bags, they probably know the safe high
> limits. On single bag systems, you can add extenders to the bogie that
> lowers the pressure quite a bit, that will get the system to full
> extension. I don't know why you would need it to pump any more air than
> that. I suspect it might be the old horsepower thing."You can never have
> too much money, a girlfriend too pretty, or too much horsepower". Same
> applies to air pressure, I suspect.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>
> On Jul 7, 2017 11:38 AM, "Jim Kanomata" wrote:
>
> The pressure is one of the main reason Jim Bounds of Coop Mtrs consulted
> with us to come up with a system that would give same control performance
> in the rear suspension and have lower air pressure requirement.
> Tha is when we developed the Quadra Bag System that stabilizes the rear and
> run on 80-85 psi .
>
>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Emery Stora wrote:
>>
>> I would suggest raising the pressure a bit — perhaps 120 to 130 psi. This
>> will allow the bags to raise higher when leveling at a campsite and allow
>> the system to fill the bags slightly faster.
>> Most single OEM bag systems are around 90 psi for ride height but I think
>> I read once that the Harrison system needs more pressure to level the GMC.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick, CO
>>
>>> On Jul 7, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Joe williams wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all, I just purchased my first GMC last week. 1978 Royale rear
>> twin and had a good trip back to Iowa from Wyoming (850 mi) with no
> issues.
>> So
>>> now I have been going over everything and have found a few things that
>> need attention and would appreciate any advice all you experts can give
> me.
>>> the first is I have a split cv boot on the drivers side, cv joint not
>> making any noise yet.
>>> Is it best to R & R it with a rebuilt axle or try to remove old boot and
>> replace with new boot.
>>> How time consuming and challenging is this job for a newbie?
>>> I see that some have used the split boot option with good and bad
>> results.any opinions on this?
>>> question #2 - It has a 4 bag rear suspension, Leigh Harrison 1999 (I
>> think) and the bag pressure is 110 psi on the driver side and 100 psi on
> the
>>> pass. side. does this sound normal for this system? it seems high to me,
>> and do you adjust the pressure at the air compressor? it's at 112 psi
>>>
>>> any info is greatly appreciated.
>>> thanks, Joe
>>>
>>> --
>>> jwilly
>>> 1978 Royale rear twin
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions [message #320107 is a reply to message #320105] |
Fri, 07 July 2017 14:32 |
Keith V
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I would bet a dollar of James' money that the limit Firestone is worried about is not the bags, but the internal valves. Especially since they really don't know what bags we are running.
That and they don't want to deal with managing a new sku for relatively low volumes. I'm sure if you put in an order for 1,000,000 you'd get your change.
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions
Well, I've owned my motorhome for 36 years now and the air tank pressure has been set at 130 psi most of that time.
When traveling the bags are at approximately 90 psi.
When parking on a non-level campsite they have occasionally been pumped up as high as 130. No adverse effects. The original bags lasted for over thirty years.
You say you don't know why anyone would need over 100 psi. You might consider being able to level it better at a campsite as a reason.
By the way take a look at the GMC Maintenance manual X7725. Page 4A9-4A10 says the compressor will shut off at 120 psi. Also on page 4A10 in the paragraph PRESSURE SWITCH it says " The air pressure switch is designed to maintain air pressure in the wet tank between 100 and 120 psi. Switch activates at 100 psi and opens at 120 psi.
You might want to go back to Firestone and your manufacturer of the 72000 controller and point out to them that GM used 120 psi in the bags, NOT 100 psi.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Jul 7, 2017, at 12:54 PM, James Hupy wrote:
>
> Anything over 100 psi is not advised by either Firestone or the
> manufacturer of the 72000 controller. They are both adamant in their
> opposition to higher pressures and limit their remote controllers to
> 100psi. I have been in contact with both of them and requested that they
> allow me to reprogram their systems to allow higher pressures. Both refused
> to do so. As Firestone makes the bags, they probably know the safe high
> limits. On single bag systems, you can add extenders to the bogie that
> lowers the pressure quite a bit, that will get the system to full
> extension. I don't know why you would need it to pump any more air than
> that. I suspect it might be the old horsepower thing."You can never have
> too much money, a girlfriend too pretty, or too much horsepower". Same
> applies to air pressure, I suspect.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>
> On Jul 7, 2017 11:38 AM, "Jim Kanomata" wrote:
>
> The pressure is one of the main reason Jim Bounds of Coop Mtrs consulted
> with us to come up with a system that would give same control performance
> in the rear suspension and have lower air pressure requirement.
> Tha is when we developed the Quadra Bag System that stabilizes the rear and
> run on 80-85 psi .
>
>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Emery Stora wrote:
>>
>> I would suggest raising the pressure a bit — perhaps 120 to 130 psi. This
>> will allow the bags to raise higher when leveling at a campsite and allow
>> the system to fill the bags slightly faster.
>> Most single OEM bag systems are around 90 psi for ride height but I think
>> I read once that the Harrison system needs more pressure to level the GMC.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick, CO
>>
>>> On Jul 7, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Joe williams wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all, I just purchased my first GMC last week. 1978 Royale rear
>> twin and had a good trip back to Iowa from Wyoming (850 mi) with no
> issues.
>> So
>>> now I have been going over everything and have found a few things that
>> need attention and would appreciate any advice all you experts can give
> me.
>>> the first is I have a split cv boot on the drivers side, cv joint not
>> making any noise yet.
>>> Is it best to R & R it with a rebuilt axle or try to remove old boot and
>> replace with new boot.
>>> How time consuming and challenging is this job for a newbie?
>>> I see that some have used the split boot option with good and bad
>> results.any opinions on this?
>>> question #2 - It has a 4 bag rear suspension, Leigh Harrison 1999 (I
>> think) and the bag pressure is 110 psi on the driver side and 100 psi on
> the
>>> pass. side. does this sound normal for this system? it seems high to me,
>> and do you adjust the pressure at the air compressor? it's at 112 psi
>>>
>>> any info is greatly appreciated.
>>> thanks, Joe
>>>
>>> --
>>> jwilly
>>> 1978 Royale rear twin
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions [message #320108 is a reply to message #320105] |
Fri, 07 July 2017 14:32 |
James Hupy
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Emery, you missed my point. I said, "When the suspension reaches the
maximum travel, then you can put 500 psi in there. It will not go any
higher." If you feel you want to run higher pressure than that, go with
your feelings. Just don't air them up when I am in the vicinity. I hate
sudden loud noises. (Grin)
Jim Hupy
On Jul 7, 2017 12:25 PM, "Emery Stora" wrote:
> Well, I've owned my motorhome for 36 years now and the air tank pressure
> has been set at 130 psi most of that time.
> When traveling the bags are at approximately 90 psi.
> When parking on a non-level campsite they have occasionally been pumped up
> as high as 130. No adverse effects. The original bags lasted for over
> thirty years.
> You say you don't know why anyone would need over 100 psi. You might
> consider being able to level it better at a campsite as a reason.
>
> By the way take a look at the GMC Maintenance manual X7725. Page 4A9-4A10
> says the compressor will shut off at 120 psi. Also on page 4A10 in the
> paragraph PRESSURE SWITCH it says " The air pressure switch is designed to
> maintain air pressure in the wet tank between 100 and 120 psi. Switch
> activates at 100 psi and opens at 120 psi.
> You might want to go back to Firestone and your manufacturer of the 72000
> controller and point out to them that GM used 120 psi in the bags, NOT 100
> psi.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
>
>> On Jul 7, 2017, at 12:54 PM, James Hupy wrote:
>>
>> Anything over 100 psi is not advised by either Firestone or the
>> manufacturer of the 72000 controller. They are both adamant in their
>> opposition to higher pressures and limit their remote controllers to
>> 100psi. I have been in contact with both of them and requested that they
>> allow me to reprogram their systems to allow higher pressures. Both
> refused
>> to do so. As Firestone makes the bags, they probably know the safe high
>> limits. On single bag systems, you can add extenders to the bogie that
>> lowers the pressure quite a bit, that will get the system to full
>> extension. I don't know why you would need it to pump any more air than
>> that. I suspect it might be the old horsepower thing."You can never have
>> too much money, a girlfriend too pretty, or too much horsepower". Same
>> applies to air pressure, I suspect.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Or
>> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>>
>> On Jul 7, 2017 11:38 AM, "Jim Kanomata" wrote:
>>
>> The pressure is one of the main reason Jim Bounds of Coop Mtrs consulted
>> with us to come up with a system that would give same control performance
>> in the rear suspension and have lower air pressure requirement.
>> Tha is when we developed the Quadra Bag System that stabilizes the rear
> and
>> run on 80-85 psi .
>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Emery Stora
> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would suggest raising the pressure a bit — perhaps 120 to 130 psi.
> This
>>> will allow the bags to raise higher when leveling at a campsite and
> allow
>>> the system to fill the bags slightly faster.
>>> Most single OEM bag systems are around 90 psi for ride height but I
> think
>>> I read once that the Harrison system needs more pressure to level the
> GMC.
>>>
>>> Emery Stora
>>> 77 Kingsley
>>> Frederick, CO
>>>
>>>> On Jul 7, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Joe williams wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello all, I just purchased my first GMC last week. 1978 Royale rear
>>> twin and had a good trip back to Iowa from Wyoming (850 mi) with no
>> issues.
>>> So
>>>> now I have been going over everything and have found a few things that
>>> need attention and would appreciate any advice all you experts can give
>> me.
>>>> the first is I have a split cv boot on the drivers side, cv joint not
>>> making any noise yet.
>>>> Is it best to R & R it with a rebuilt axle or try to remove old boot
> and
>>> replace with new boot.
>>>> How time consuming and challenging is this job for a newbie?
>>>> I see that some have used the split boot option with good and bad
>>> results.any opinions on this?
>>>> question #2 - It has a 4 bag rear suspension, Leigh Harrison 1999 (I
>>> think) and the bag pressure is 110 psi on the driver side and 100 psi on
>> the
>>>> pass. side. does this sound normal for this system? it seems high to
> me,
>>> and do you adjust the pressure at the air compressor? it's at 112 psi
>>>>
>>>> any info is greatly appreciated.
>>>> thanks, Joe
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> jwilly
>>>> 1978 Royale rear twin
>>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions [message #320109 is a reply to message #320108] |
Fri, 07 July 2017 14:39 |
jimk
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Lee Harrison ran his Firestone bags over 120 psi and never heard of
problems. As long as it is around 5-6 years old, they seem to withstand the
higher pressure just like the tires.
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 12:32 PM, James Hupy wrote:
> Emery, you missed my point. I said, "When the suspension reaches the
> maximum travel, then you can put 500 psi in there. It will not go any
> higher." If you feel you want to run higher pressure than that, go with
> your feelings. Just don't air them up when I am in the vicinity. I hate
> sudden loud noises. (Grin)
> Jim Hupy
>
> On Jul 7, 2017 12:25 PM, "Emery Stora" wrote:
>
>> Well, I've owned my motorhome for 36 years now and the air tank pressure
>> has been set at 130 psi most of that time.
>> When traveling the bags are at approximately 90 psi.
>> When parking on a non-level campsite they have occasionally been pumped
> up
>> as high as 130. No adverse effects. The original bags lasted for over
>> thirty years.
>> You say you don't know why anyone would need over 100 psi. You might
>> consider being able to level it better at a campsite as a reason.
>>
>> By the way take a look at the GMC Maintenance manual X7725. Page 4A9-4A10
>> says the compressor will shut off at 120 psi. Also on page 4A10 in the
>> paragraph PRESSURE SWITCH it says " The air pressure switch is designed
> to
>> maintain air pressure in the wet tank between 100 and 120 psi. Switch
>> activates at 100 psi and opens at 120 psi.
>> You might want to go back to Firestone and your manufacturer of the 72000
>> controller and point out to them that GM used 120 psi in the bags, NOT
> 100
>> psi.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick, CO
>>
>>> On Jul 7, 2017, at 12:54 PM, James Hupy wrote:
>>>
>>> Anything over 100 psi is not advised by either Firestone or the
>>> manufacturer of the 72000 controller. They are both adamant in their
>>> opposition to higher pressures and limit their remote controllers to
>>> 100psi. I have been in contact with both of them and requested that
> they
>>> allow me to reprogram their systems to allow higher pressures. Both
>> refused
>>> to do so. As Firestone makes the bags, they probably know the safe high
>>> limits. On single bag systems, you can add extenders to the bogie that
>>> lowers the pressure quite a bit, that will get the system to full
>>> extension. I don't know why you would need it to pump any more air than
>>> that. I suspect it might be the old horsepower thing."You can never
> have
>>> too much money, a girlfriend too pretty, or too much horsepower". Same
>>> applies to air pressure, I suspect.
>>> Jim Hupy
>>> Salem, Or
>>> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>>>
>>> On Jul 7, 2017 11:38 AM, "Jim Kanomata" wrote:
>>>
>>> The pressure is one of the main reason Jim Bounds of Coop Mtrs
> consulted
>>> with us to come up with a system that would give same control
> performance
>>> in the rear suspension and have lower air pressure requirement.
>>> Tha is when we developed the Quadra Bag System that stabilizes the rear
>> and
>>> run on 80-85 psi .
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Emery Stora
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would suggest raising the pressure a bit — perhaps 120 to 130 psi.
>> This
>>>> will allow the bags to raise higher when leveling at a campsite and
>> allow
>>>> the system to fill the bags slightly faster.
>>>> Most single OEM bag systems are around 90 psi for ride height but I
>> think
>>>> I read once that the Harrison system needs more pressure to level the
>> GMC.
>>>>
>>>> Emery Stora
>>>> 77 Kingsley
>>>> Frederick, CO
>>>>
>>>> > On Jul 7, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Joe williams
> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Hello all, I just purchased my first GMC last week. 1978 Royale rear
>>>> twin and had a good trip back to Iowa from Wyoming (850 mi) with no
>>> issues.
>>>> So
>>>> > now I have been going over everything and have found a few things
> that
>>>> need attention and would appreciate any advice all you experts can
> give
>>> me.
>>>> > the first is I have a split cv boot on the drivers side, cv joint not
>>>> making any noise yet.
>>>> > Is it best to R & R it with a rebuilt axle or try to remove old boot
>> and
>>>> replace with new boot.
>>>> > How time consuming and challenging is this job for a newbie?
>>>> > I see that some have used the split boot option with good and bad
>>>> results.any opinions on this?
>>>> > question #2 - It has a 4 bag rear suspension, Leigh Harrison 1999 (I
>>>> think) and the bag pressure is 110 psi on the driver side and 100 psi
> on
>>> the
>>>> > pass. side. does this sound normal for this system? it seems high to
>> me,
>>>> and do you adjust the pressure at the air compressor? it's at 112 psi
>>>> >
>>>> > any info is greatly appreciated.
>>>> > thanks, Joe
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > jwilly
>>>> > 1978 Royale rear twin
>>>> >
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
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>>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions [message #320115 is a reply to message #320112] |
Fri, 07 July 2017 16:22 |
tphipps
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1. Pressure in your Leigh Harrison bags is very close to the pressure in my Leigh Harrison bag system. Measure your ride height to be sure that the air pressure is correct for your coach. This system has been on my 1975 Avion 26' for 4 years without any problems. Just check your ride height before you leave home.
2. I have 2 of the Dorman split bags on my outer CV joints. At least one has been in place for 3 years. A very fast and easy replacement. Having wrestled with the Dorman 'Universal boot' and Dorman split boot, the split boot fits better around the big edge of the outer CV joint. I carry one as a spare. I, and many others, have used the split boot on the CV joints of many VW and Porsche products. Lots of years on those vehicles.
3. I believe that your air pressure switch is mal-adjusted. The switch should turn on the air compressor at 100psi and turn off at 120 psi. There is a user adjustable screw inside the cover to move the air range.
Enjoy your new toy. Many happy miles. Get a copy of the "Black List," and keep it in the coach.
Tom, MS II
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| Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions [message #320123 is a reply to message #320092] |
Fri, 07 July 2017 18:10 |
Ken Henderson
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Welcome aboard, Joe. You've found the right place for technical support.
You'll get a lot of advice, some good, some bad, but at least you'll have
information as a basis to make your own decisions.
I personally have never used a split boot, nor do I think I would. But, if
I did, the one inviolable rule I'd follow, as I do with regular boots, is
to be sure the surface where the large end of the CV joint, where boot
fits, is absolutely clean -- NO grease residue. Same for the inside of the
boot there. That ensures that when you install the clamp, there' s a good
seal, with no boot sliding.
It's also important, IMHO, to use only double-wrap clamps. At one time
NAPA sold those clamps pre-cut; whether they still do I don't know. I buy
the "buckles" and 1/4" Band-It from McMaster-Carr and cut my own -- 37" for
the large end clamp. The small end clamp is not needed, but if it makes
you feel better, re-use a large end Band-It clamp (IF you have one).
I've had the Harrison 4-bag since 1998, with never a problem. I'm still
running the original bags after 100,000+ miles. IIRC, Leigh's
documentations specified 130 psi max. Your settings sound very
reasonable. In case you haven't heard, that system does reduce the maximum
suspension travel vs the OEM system, by about 3", IIRC.
Most Harrison systems I've seen installed follow Leigh's instructions and
mount the manifolds, with their shutoff valves and pressure gauges in the
wheel wells, often on the bag support pedestal. That, IMHO, is a BAD idea,
especially if you have the "fender skirts". Why? Because if the bags are
down, it will be impossible to get to the manifold to add air without
jacking the coach up. I moved my manifolds into the rear compartments,
right at the top of the openings where they're out of the way but easily
accessible. Possibly an added benefit is that if I ever over-inflate a bag
to failure, I won't be beside it.
JWID,
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc., etc.
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Joe williams wrote:
> ...
>
> the first is I have a split cv boot on the drivers side, cv joint not
> making any noise yet.
> Is it best to R & R it with a rebuilt axle or try to remove old boot and
> replace with new boot.
> How time consuming and challenging is this job for a newbie?
> I see that some have used the split boot option with good and bad
> results.any opinions on this?
>
> question #2 - It has a 4 bag rear suspension, Leigh Harrison 1999 (I
> think) and the bag pressure is 110 psi on the driver side and 100 psi on the
> pass. side. does this sound normal for this system? it seems high to me,
> and do you adjust the pressure at the air compressor? it's at 112 psi
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions [message #320126 is a reply to message #320102] |
Fri, 07 July 2017 18:45 |
Jeanette
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Kim Weeks administrator for GMC Motorhomes International is in Indanola Iowa for summer. Lots of info there. Gmcmi.com
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 7, 2017, at 1:54 PM, James Hupy wrote:
>
> Anything over 100 psi is not advised by either Firestone or the
> manufacturer of the 72000 controller. They are both adamant in their
> opposition to higher pressures and limit their remote controllers to
> 100psi. I have been in contact with both of them and requested that they
> allow me to reprogram their systems to allow higher pressures. Both refused
> to do so. As Firestone makes the bags, they probably know the safe high
> limits. On single bag systems, you can add extenders to the bogie that
> lowers the pressure quite a bit, that will get the system to full
> extension. I don't know why you would need it to pump any more air than
> that. I suspect it might be the old horsepower thing."You can never have
> too much money, a girlfriend too pretty, or too much horsepower". Same
> applies to air pressure, I suspect.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>
> On Jul 7, 2017 11:38 AM, "Jim Kanomata" wrote:
>
> The pressure is one of the main reason Jim Bounds of Coop Mtrs consulted
> with us to come up with a system that would give same control performance
> in the rear suspension and have lower air pressure requirement.
> Tha is when we developed the Quadra Bag System that stabilizes the rear and
> run on 80-85 psi .
>
>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Emery Stora wrote:
>>
>> I would suggest raising the pressure a bit — perhaps 120 to 130 psi. This
>> will allow the bags to raise higher when leveling at a campsite and allow
>> the system to fill the bags slightly faster.
>> Most single OEM bag systems are around 90 psi for ride height but I think
>> I read once that the Harrison system needs more pressure to level the GMC.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick, CO
>>
>>> On Jul 7, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Joe williams wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all, I just purchased my first GMC last week. 1978 Royale rear
>> twin and had a good trip back to Iowa from Wyoming (850 mi) with no
> issues.
>> So
>>> now I have been going over everything and have found a few things that
>> need attention and would appreciate any advice all you experts can give
> me.
>>> the first is I have a split cv boot on the drivers side, cv joint not
>> making any noise yet.
>>> Is it best to R & R it with a rebuilt axle or try to remove old boot and
>> replace with new boot.
>>> How time consuming and challenging is this job for a newbie?
>>> I see that some have used the split boot option with good and bad
>> results.any opinions on this?
>>> question #2 - It has a 4 bag rear suspension, Leigh Harrison 1999 (I
>> think) and the bag pressure is 110 psi on the driver side and 100 psi on
> the
>>> pass. side. does this sound normal for this system? it seems high to me,
>> and do you adjust the pressure at the air compressor? it's at 112 psi
>>>
>>> any info is greatly appreciated.
>>> thanks, Joe
>>>
>>> --
>>> jwilly
>>> 1978 Royale rear twin
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions [message #320133 is a reply to message #320108] |
Fri, 07 July 2017 20:30 |
Emery Stora
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I am thinking perhaps you are missing my point. You said that you don’t know why anyone would want more than 100 psi.
I was pointing out that GM used a cut off pressure of 120 psi over 40 years ago.
They are not going to blow up at 120 or 130 psi.
Emery Stora
> On Jul 7, 2017, at 1:32 PM, James Hupy wrote:
>
> Emery, you missed my point. I said, "When the suspension reaches the
> maximum travel, then you can put 500 psi in there. It will not go any
> higher." If you feel you want to run higher pressure than that, go with
> your feelings. Just don't air them up when I am in the vicinity. I hate
> sudden loud noises. (Grin)
> Jim Hupy
>
> On Jul 7, 2017 12:25 PM, "Emery Stora" wrote:
>
>> Well, I've owned my motorhome for 36 years now and the air tank pressure
>> has been set at 130 psi most of that time.
>> When traveling the bags are at approximately 90 psi.
>> When parking on a non-level campsite they have occasionally been pumped up
>> as high as 130. No adverse effects. The original bags lasted for over
>> thirty years.
>> You say you don't know why anyone would need over 100 psi. You might
>> consider being able to level it better at a campsite as a reason.
>>
>> By the way take a look at the GMC Maintenance manual X7725. Page 4A9-4A10
>> says the compressor will shut off at 120 psi. Also on page 4A10 in the
>> paragraph PRESSURE SWITCH it says " The air pressure switch is designed to
>> maintain air pressure in the wet tank between 100 and 120 psi. Switch
>> activates at 100 psi and opens at 120 psi.
>> You might want to go back to Firestone and your manufacturer of the 72000
>> controller and point out to them that GM used 120 psi in the bags, NOT 100
>> psi.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick, CO
>>
>>> On Jul 7, 2017, at 12:54 PM, James Hupy wrote:
>>>
>>> Anything over 100 psi is not advised by either Firestone or the
>>> manufacturer of the 72000 controller. They are both adamant in their
>>> opposition to higher pressures and limit their remote controllers to
>>> 100psi. I have been in contact with both of them and requested that they
>>> allow me to reprogram their systems to allow higher pressures. Both
>> refused
>>> to do so. As Firestone makes the bags, they probably know the safe high
>>> limits. On single bag systems, you can add extenders to the bogie that
>>> lowers the pressure quite a bit, that will get the system to full
>>> extension. I don't know why you would need it to pump any more air than
>>> that. I suspect it might be the old horsepower thing."You can never have
>>> too much money, a girlfriend too pretty, or too much horsepower". Same
>>> applies to air pressure, I suspect.
>>> Jim Hupy
>>> Salem, Or
>>> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>>>
>>> On Jul 7, 2017 11:38 AM, "Jim Kanomata" wrote:
>>>
>>> The pressure is one of the main reason Jim Bounds of Coop Mtrs consulted
>>> with us to come up with a system that would give same control performance
>>> in the rear suspension and have lower air pressure requirement.
>>> Tha is when we developed the Quadra Bag System that stabilizes the rear
>> and
>>> run on 80-85 psi .
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Emery Stora
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would suggest raising the pressure a bit — perhaps 120 to 130 psi.
>> This
>>>> will allow the bags to raise higher when leveling at a campsite and
>> allow
>>>> the system to fill the bags slightly faster.
>>>> Most single OEM bag systems are around 90 psi for ride height but I
>> think
>>>> I read once that the Harrison system needs more pressure to level the
>> GMC.
>>>>
>>>> Emery Stora
>>>> 77 Kingsley
>>>> Frederick, CO
>>>>
>>>> > On Jul 7, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Joe williams wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Hello all, I just purchased my first GMC last week. 1978 Royale rear
>>>> twin and had a good trip back to Iowa from Wyoming (850 mi) with no
>>> issues.
>>>> So
>>>> > now I have been going over everything and have found a few things that
>>>> need attention and would appreciate any advice all you experts can give
>>> me.
>>>> > the first is I have a split cv boot on the drivers side, cv joint not
>>>> making any noise yet.
>>>> > Is it best to R & R it with a rebuilt axle or try to remove old boot
>> and
>>>> replace with new boot.
>>>> > How time consuming and challenging is this job for a newbie?
>>>> > I see that some have used the split boot option with good and bad
>>>> results.any opinions on this?
>>>> > question #2 - It has a 4 bag rear suspension, Leigh Harrison 1999 (I
>>>> think) and the bag pressure is 110 psi on the driver side and 100 psi on
>>> the
>>>> > pass. side. does this sound normal for this system? it seems high to
>> me,
>>>> and do you adjust the pressure at the air compressor? it's at 112 psi
>>>> >
>>>> > any info is greatly appreciated.
>>>> > thanks, Joe
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > jwilly
>>>> > 1978 Royale rear twin
>>>> >
>>>> > _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
>>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>>> 1-800-752-7502
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| Re: new owner questions [message #320146 is a reply to message #320092] |
Sat, 08 July 2017 08:20 |
joewilly
Messages: 40
Registered: April 2016
Location: Victor,Ia
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WOW! Thanks to all for your advice/opinions, didn't think I would get such a great response, I think I'll just go with a split boot for now since it sounds the easiest/fastest and I can get her back on the road. if it doesn't hold up I can redo it later.
Ken, what is a double wrap clamp? do I need to get a special tool to use them?
Tom, I found on one of your old posts that you used Dorman 03609 ,did you use the clamps that came with it?
and do you know what bag is used on the Harrison system and where I can get a spare to keep in the coach.
Thanks again to all, so great to be able to get such good advice so quickly and look forward to meeting some of you at a rally soon.
Joe
Joe Williams
1978 Royale rear twin
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| Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions [message #320149 is a reply to message #320146] |
Sat, 08 July 2017 09:00 |
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USAussie
Messages: 15912
Registered: July 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia
Karma: 6
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Joe,
Firestone P/N W01-358-3400 - with bellows #224C
Compressed height: 3.00 inches
Extended height: 8.91 inches
Range: 5.91 inches
http://firestoneip.com/-/media/www/global/files/documents/Data%20Sheets/W013583400.pdf
http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=8195
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Joe williams
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 11:20 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] new owner questions
WOW! Thanks to all for your advice/opinions, didn't think I would get such a great response, I think I'll just go with a split boot
for now since it sounds the easiest/fastest and I can get her back on the road. if it doesn't hold up I can redo it later.
Ken, what is a double wrap clamp? do I need to get a special tool to use them?
Tom, I found on one of your old posts that you used Dorman 03609 ,did you use the clamps that came with it?
and do you know what bag is used on the Harrison system and where I can get a spare to keep in the coach.
Thanks again to all, so great to be able to get such good advice so quickly and look forward to meeting some of you at a rally soon.
Joe
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Joe Williams
1978 Royale rear twin
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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