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Mon, 20 March 2017 10:00  |
Keith V
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Got my generator running, it's a newer Onan Emerald not the OEM one. The carb and puel pump were pretty gummed up.
It runs pretty good but surges. It has an altitude adjustment that I definitly screwed up, anyone know how to set that?
Big question is how to clean the carb, pulling the carb looks to be a nightmare as it's really packed in there and NOT on a slide like the OEM one.
Is seafom worth trying or should I just bite the bullet and pull the thing out?
How would one use said seafom on a genny? I'm thinking put some in a small gas can, with gas of course, and run from it for a while?
Thanks!
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| Re: [GMCnet] generator carb cleaning and adjustment [message #314955 is a reply to message #314950] |
Mon, 20 March 2017 11:46  |
Carl S.
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Keith, You might try Seafoam (or some other gas additive) in your gas tank. It will help to clean up the coach engine too. It might be effective at cleaning the internal parts of the carburetor. A spray carb cleaner might be your best bet for cleaning the the venturi and parts where the air flows through, as well as the external parts of the carb. Spray it in the carb intake while the engine is running and stop if it starts to stall. Probably a good idea to disconnect the electrical plug because it will surge quite a bit during this process.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] generator carb cleaning and adjustment [message #314956 is a reply to message #314955] |
Mon, 20 March 2017 12:11 |
James Hupy
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Keith, if you have a Mercury Marine dealer near where you are, stop there
and pick up two things. One is a carb cleaning spray can, I don't have a
part number. The other is a product called "marine engine fogging oil",
also in a spray can. Both are time tested high quality products. I have
used both of them for years. Read the labels, follow their
recommendations. JWIWD.
JIM HUPY
SALEM, OR
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Mar 20, 2017 9:47 AM, "Carl Stouffer" wrote:
> Keith, You might try Seafoam (or some other gas additive) in your gas
> tank. It will help to clean up the coach engine too. It might be
> effective at
> cleaning the internal parts of the carburetor. A spray carb cleaner might
> be your best bet for cleaning the the venturi and parts where the air flows
> through, as well as the external parts of the carb. Spray it in the carb
> intake while the engine is running and stop if it starts to stall. Probably
> a good idea to disconnect the electrical plug because it will surge quite
> a bit during this process.
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive,
> Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American
> Eagles,
> Solar battery charging
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| Re: [GMCnet] generator carb cleaning and adjustment [message #314963 is a reply to message #314950] |
Mon, 20 March 2017 15:20 |
77Royale
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Ive used Mercury Marine (quicksilver) Power Clean on a few outboards. Follow the directions as stated. Worked well for engines that get used for a few months then go dormant for a few months. If you can spray it in the carb throat and let it sit while the engine is off but hot for a few hours. Should help to clean up the junk without having to remove the carb.
I had an outboard that would not idle well after it sat for 10 years. Got it started and used the power clean and it worked pretty well. I too did not want to remove the carb if I didnt have to.
77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy.
Mid Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] generator carb cleaning and adjustment [message #314966 is a reply to message #314963] |
Mon, 20 March 2017 16:18 |
Keith V
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Cool I'm sure theres a Mercury dealer around here, I'll give it a shot.
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] generator carb cleaning and adjustment
Ive used Mercury Marine (quicksilver) Power Clean on a few outboards. Follow the directions as stated. Worked well for engines that get used for a
few months then go dormant for a few months. If you can spray it in the carb throat and let it sit while the engine is off but hot for a few hours.
Should help to clean up the junk without having to remove the carb.
I had an outboard that would not idle well after it sat for 10 years. Got it started and used the power clean and it worked pretty well. I too did
not want to remove the carb if I didnt have to.
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77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy.
Mid Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] generator carb cleaning and adjustment [message #314970 is a reply to message #314950] |
Mon, 20 March 2017 20:29 |
JohnL455
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I'd concentrate on the fuel supply line for kinks, porosity and splits. Mine split where it stretced over the pump barb. Almost invisible but sucking air giving your symptoms. I don't like Seafoam BS. Gasoline is a solvent with refinery added cleaners and additives.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] generator carb cleaning and adjustment [message #314975 is a reply to message #314966] |
Mon, 20 March 2017 22:52 |
Bullitthead
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Keith,
Before you get it out of there, look closely at the attachment of the bellcrank on the throttle shaft. I bought a used Emerald and had to clean the carb to make it run, but it still surged with or without a load. Fortunately, I noticed the slop in the bellcrank attachment to the shaft before I got something really maladjusted. An automatic center punch on that shaft swelled the shaft end, tightening the bellcrank attachment, and the surge was fixed.
Terry Kelpien
ASE Master Technician
73 Glacier 260
Smithfield, Va.
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| Re: [GMCnet] generator carb cleaning and adjustment [message #314982 is a reply to message #314975] |
Tue, 21 March 2017 09:32 |
Keith V
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I'll inspect the bellcrank, it seems to me this thing surged before, but I'm paying attention now...
The fuel lines are all new and steel except for the last 6" I guess I should take a looksee at that too
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From: Gmclist on behalf of Terry
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 10:52:21 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] generator carb cleaning and adjustment
Keith,
Before you get it out of there, look closely at the attachment of the bellcrank on the throttle shaft. I bought a used Emerald and had to clean the
carb to make it run, but it still surged with or without a load. Fortunately, I noticed the slop in the bellcrank attachment to the shaft before I got
something really maladjusted. An automatic center punch on that shaft swelled the shaft end, tightening the bellcrank attachment, and the surge was
fixed.
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Terry Kelpien
ASE Master Technician
73 Glacier 260
Smithfield, Va.
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| Re: [GMCnet] generator carb cleaning and adjustment [message #314993 is a reply to message #314950] |
Tue, 21 March 2017 14:14 |
jhbridges
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I've seen this looseness on Onans ion SOBs several times.. one even fell off. Onan wanted to sell the owner a complete new carb for several hundred bux. We managed to stake it back on so it stayed and was tight long enough for the epoxy to set up.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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