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Exhaust Manifold Rupture [message #304395] Thu, 28 July 2016 00:34 Go to next message
Clark76 is currently offline  Clark76   United States
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See Attached Pictures on GMC Photo Site. Extreme crack and rupture of Exhaust Manifold on the Passenger Side. The coach was louder than normal and it was apparent there was an exhaust leak. I thought it was a a blown exhaust gasket. What a surprise to see the result. What would cause this and how to prevent it?

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/mechanical/p60970-exhaust-manifold-rupture.html

Re: Exhaust Manifold Rupture [message #304397 is a reply to message #304395] Thu, 28 July 2016 02:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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I do not think I would call that a crack.

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Re: Exhaust Manifold Rupture [message #304406 is a reply to message #304397] Thu, 28 July 2016 08:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tphipps is currently offline  tphipps   United States
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Ouch! I agree with Ken, not a crack. Did not mention 455/403, but crack is not repairable. 455 Passenger side exhaust manifold is hard to come by. Might be time for headers. No idea what caused the blow out, but it is impressive.
Tom, MS II


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Re: Exhaust Manifold Rupture [message #304417 is a reply to message #304395] Thu, 28 July 2016 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
roy1 is currently offline  roy1   United States
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I would consider headers (thorley)and free flow mufflers (walker dynamax) or equivalent.

Roy Keen Minden,NV 76 X Glenbrook
Re: Exhaust Manifold Rupture [message #304418 is a reply to message #304406] Thu, 28 July 2016 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jon payne is currently offline  Jon payne   United States
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I have a spare, used, passenger side exhaust manifold. Send me a PM if interested.

Jon


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Re: Exhaust Manifold Rupture [message #304434 is a reply to message #304418] Thu, 28 July 2016 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Clark76 is currently offline  Clark76   United States
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I have already replaced it with another manifold from a local parts-coach. Also used new copper gasket, gasket seal, and new #8 hardened bolts and lock-washers. Took it on a long trip and no further issues. Clearly, the metal fatigued in the old Exhaust Manifold. I am just curious if anyone has seen a rupture like this before and if so, If they knew the cause, so it won't happen again.
Re: Exhaust Manifold Rupture [message #304440 is a reply to message #304434] Thu, 28 July 2016 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Harry is currently offline  Harry   Canada
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It looks like nuclear melt down to me.
Re: Exhaust Manifold Rupture [message #304444 is a reply to message #304395] Thu, 28 July 2016 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Tyler is currently offline  Chris Tyler   United States
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Cause is age, heat and metal fatigue/rust.
Sometimes a small crack is repairable in place by drilling the ends, groving the crack heating and arc welding with a nickel rod. Or furnace brazing and remachining.
This one is beyond FUBAR.


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Re: Exhaust Manifold Rupture [message #304489 is a reply to message #304434] Fri, 29 July 2016 07:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Clark,

I have seen such failures. What I can also tell you is that it is nothing remarkable, it was just a cast material failure that was run for a period at high load. The metal near the leak was both over heated and some carried away by the exhaust stream. It was most likely caused be an inclusion in the casting.

The use of hardened fasteners in exhaust systems in not advised. If you do, they should only be tensioned to level of a grade two fastener. All high grade parts get the increased strength from heat treatment. While this does require better alloys, after a short period at exhaust temperatures, the effects of heat treatment are just about gone. I also advise that if you did not coat the fasteners liberally with a good anti-sieze that you remove them and do so now. One of the side effects of the heat treatment and alloy is a propensity for galling.

Matt

Clark76 wrote on Thu, 28 July 2016 13:29
I have already replaced it with another manifold from a local parts-coach. Also used new copper gasket, gasket seal, and new #8 hardened bolts and lock-washers. Took it on a long trip and no further issues. Clearly, the metal fatigued in the old Exhaust Manifold. I am just curious if anyone has seen a rupture like this before and if so, If they knew the cause, so it won't happen again.



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Re: Exhaust Manifold Rupture [message #304519 is a reply to message #304418] Fri, 29 July 2016 11:13 Go to previous message
Adrien G. is currently offline  Adrien G.   United States
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Jon, PM sent.




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