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[GMCnet] Restoration. Induction cook top. [message #290828] Tue, 24 November 2015 07:18 Go to next message
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Linda says she doesn't want a gas cook top in this GMC. She wants a two element built in induction unit mounted in a Corian (Spelling) counter top. We have one at home. Really a nice unit. Then an under counter sink.Bob Dunahugh Member GMCMI78 Royale
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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Induction cook top. [message #290833 is a reply to message #290828] Tue, 24 November 2015 08:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you have the right pots and can stand an electric stove, it ought to look good. And, if she's willing to cook, I'd get her whatever she wants to cook with!

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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Induction cook top. [message #290852 is a reply to message #290833] Tue, 24 November 2015 10:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I bought a single element portable induction cooktop from Amazon to use in the GMC and removed the propane stove/oven. It was only $69 and free shipping. You can get 2 of these and use them as needed and stow them until then so the counter is free and clear when they are not needed. I was surprised at the cost of a built in 2 element unit, was over $500 at the time 3 years ago. Maybe less expensive now, haven't checked. It works very well, and heats pots/pans very quickly while using a lot less power than a standard electric stove. Definitely has a learning curve to avoid burning food. The NuWave PIC may be a better unit than mine, and is only $99 last time I saw it on TV. Mine only takes 15 amps at full power (1800 watts), but I discovered that it would not operate on the inverter as I had intended, so I had to find and install a generator anyway. It works fine on Onan power.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Induction cook top. [message #290855 is a reply to message #290852] Tue, 24 November 2015 10:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I really have a hard time comprehending why I would want to remove a
perfectly good, highly efficient, propane stove and replace it with what
for all practical purposes is a one burner hot plate. That is like cooking
with the famous "hot pot" in college dorms, mainly used for incredible
concoctions of Ramen noodles and other "stuff". It is like a giant step
backwards, particularly when you try to use it with an inverter or an onan.
The propane appliances, with the exception of the 30,000 btu furnaces, just
sip propane. They are infinitely variable for heat, and instantly reduce
cooking temps when pots are near the boiling stage. I guess I will just
have to chalk it up to Different Strokes for Different Folks. Just what I
do. Your money, spend it how you see fit.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC Royale 403

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Terry wrote:

> I bought a single element portable induction cooktop from Amazon to use in
> the GMC and removed the propane stove/oven. It was only $69 and free
> shipping. You can get 2 of these and use them as needed and stow them
> until then so the counter is free and clear when they are not needed. I was
> surprised at the cost of a built in 2 element unit, was over $500 at the
> time 3 years ago. Maybe less expensive now, haven't checked. It works very
> well, and heats pots/pans very quickly while using a lot less power than a
> standard electric stove. Definitely has a learning curve to avoid burning
> food. The NuWave PIC may be a better unit than mine, and is only $99 last
> time I saw it on TV. Mine only takes 15 amps at full power (1800 watts), but
> I discovered that it would not operate on the inverter as I had intended,
> so I had to find and install a generator anyway. It works fine on Onan
> power.
> --
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> ASE Master Technician
> 73 Glacier 260
> Smithfield, Va.
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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Induction cook top. [message #290856 is a reply to message #290855] Tue, 24 November 2015 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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James,
> and instantly reduce cooking temps when pots are near the boiling stage
FYI: That works for induction tops as well.

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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Induction cook top. [message #290857 is a reply to message #290855] Tue, 24 November 2015 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well Jim, Mickey got into the oven insulation and left a collection of turds and insulation in there, so I didn't regard it as safe to operate and SWMBO was definitely not going to use the oven to cook in after discovering that, and couldn't envision baking a cake in the GMC anyway, so attention turned to the stove and the cover that was missing, rendering the counter space unusable. We decided that if we wanted to cook over fire, we would do it outside on the grill and not add the heat to the inside of the coach. The small cooktop is just a well-controlled high-powered hot plate as you say, but it can be stowed, leaving us the whole counter to use, and a substantial weight reduction and more storage space after removing the stove/oven. A larger single sink is also installed, one that a full size plate will fit in and allows me to wash my arms up to the elbows, which I have found is somewhat necessary when using the GMC Laughing I didn't toss the oven or the old countertop, just stored it in the barn so the next owner of the GMC can have the original stuff that was in there if they want it.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Induction cook top. [message #290858 is a reply to message #290857] Tue, 24 November 2015 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Terry, I was not criticizing you or your significant other. I knew
there was more to that story. Mouse crap has a way of creating a lasting
mental impression that is recalled every time one would attempt to cook on
a rusty, stinky, old appliance. I don't blame her for wanting something
different. But, if there was some unrealistic fear of using propane in the
coach, I suspect that of the 6 GMC coaches that were involved with fires
that I personally have been directly involved in, One was of "undetermined
origin" the other 5 were gasoline fuel leaks, and 12 volt electrical in
nature. The one of "undetermined origin" started in the refrigerator
compartment which was chock full of stored items that were flammable in
nature. Specifically oil in plastic jugs, rags, cardboard boxes full of
maintenance items. None of which should have been stored there. Cause could
have been either 12 volt, 120 volt, or propane. ANY SYSTEM IN A GMC NOT
USED WITH A HEAVY DOSE OF COMMON SENSE, can result in a serious problem.
Just saying, an overloaded inverter is just as likely to be an ignition
source as a propane appliance in a motor home. Cold weather aggravates the
hazards. Be careful out there.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC Royale 403
On Nov 24, 2015 9:04 AM, "Terry" wrote:

> Well Jim, Mickey got into the oven insulation and left a collection of
> turds and insulation in there, so I didn't regard it as safe to operate and
> SWMBO was definitely not going to use the oven to cook in after
> discovering that, and couldn't envision baking a cake in the GMC anyway, so
> attention
> turned to the stove and the cover that was missing, rendering the counter
> space unusable. We decided that if we wanted to cook over fire, we would do
> it outside on the grill and not add the heat to the inside of the coach.
> The small cooktop is just a well-controlled high-powered hot plate as you
> say, but it can be stowed, leaving us the whole counter to use, and a
> substantial weight reduction and more storage space after removing the
> stove/oven. A larger single sink is also installed, one that a full size
> plate will fit in and allows me to wash my arms up to the elbows, which I
> have found is somewhat necessary when using the GMC :lol: I didn't toss
> the oven or the old countertop, just stored it in the barn so the next owner
> of the GMC can have the original stuff that was in there if they want it.
> --
> Terry Kelpien
> ASE Master Technician
> 73 Glacier 260
> Smithfield, Va.
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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Induction cook top. [message #290863 is a reply to message #290828] Tue, 24 November 2015 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BobDunahugh wrote on Tue, 24 November 2015 06:18
Linda says she doesn't want a gas cook top in this GMC. She wants a two element built in induction unit mounted in a Corian (Spelling) counter top. We have one at home. Really a nice unit. Then an under counter sink.Bob Dunahugh Member GMCMI78 Royale
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Bob,

Although we use a two burner propane stove, we have it mounted in a Corian top with a single bowl undermount sink:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5902-counter-top-2c-etc.html

Corian is actually really easy to work with as long as you know a few basics. The adhesive is a two part that is mixed in a mixing nozzle and requires a special gun. Otherwise it is cut and shaped with standard woodworking tools (sabre saw, circular or table saw, router, sander, etc). Polish it out using a random orbit sander with increasingly soft 3-M pads. Material can be purchased on line at solidsurface.com, or maybe local outlets.


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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Induction cook top. [message #290873 is a reply to message #290828] Tue, 24 November 2015 15:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim, you miss his point. "Linda wants it to cook on.....". S/he who is willing to cook gets whatever they want to do it with.

--johnny


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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Induction cook top. [message #290875 is a reply to message #290855] Tue, 24 November 2015 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,

I'm with Jim on this one.

I realize that it is highly unlikely that a GMC galley is going to be used to prepare gourmet meals; however, I doubt you'll ever
find an electric COOKING surface in ANY restaurant kitchen.

There IS a problem with the gas cook top in Avions which exists in GMC cook tops as well, the burners do not put out enough heat to
boil large pots of water to make pasta. Emery Stora to the rescue!

Quote:

I checked the orifice on the burners and they have a hole for a #71 drill bit (.026" diameter). I calculated that to raise the BTU
to approx. 7500 from the current 5200 rating I would need an orifice opening of approximately .031" diameter which corresponds to a
#68 drill bit.

Today I removed the orifice from the front burner and drilled it with a #68 bit and reinstalled it. What a fantastic difference!
The flame appears almost twice as big and it certainly puts off a lot more heat. I haven't timed it yet but I suspect that a pot of
water will
boil about 1.5 times faster. (it should with 7500 btu versus 5200).

Unquote

BTW if you have an Avion with a four burner stove drill out the jet for the right front burner NOT any of the others! The back ones
are too close to the top that folds up and the front left is too close to the bathroom wall, Those surfaces get pretty hot from the
added BTU's the re-jetted burner produces.

The oven is another story, I removed the one in Double Trouble and put a Microwave / Convection Oven / Grill in its place:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/galley-pull-out-drawers/p39534-pull-out-drawers.html

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic


-----Original Message-----
From: James Hupy

I really have a hard time comprehending why I would want to remove a
perfectly good, highly efficient, propane stove and replace it with what
for all practical purposes is a one burner hot plate. That is like cooking
with the famous "hot pot" in college dorms, mainly used for incredible
concoctions of Ramen noodles and other "stuff". It is like a giant step
backwards, particularly when you try to use it with an inverter or an onan.
The propane appliances, with the exception of the 30,000 btu furnaces, just
sip propane. They are infinitely variable for heat, and instantly reduce
cooking temps when pots are near the boiling stage. I guess I will just
have to chalk it up to Different Strokes for Different Folks. Just what I
do. Your money, spend it how you see fit.
Jim Hupy




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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Induction cook top. [message #290898 is a reply to message #290858] Tue, 24 November 2015 20:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh I have no fear of propane in the coach, I still have the furnace and fridge hooked up to it and keep the tank over half full at all times, so I'm well equipped to get the propane haircut if I don't smell the mercaptan before I flick my Bic or switch a switch Laughing The stove/oven just wasn't in great condition, the cover that forms the back firewall was missing, so that protection was non-existent, and the rattling pan supports were pretty much in the way anytime I wanted to set something on the counter. It also wasn't mounted very securely anymore and was resting on the fenderwell. I also was going to be replacing the countertop when replacing that ridiculous double tiny sink. I had cooked on the gas stove in the boat before and always liked the control it gives you on the heat output, but never liked the change in flame diameter when using the lightweight cookware we had in the boat. Cast iron has always been the favorite of me and my dad, but Mrs. Bullitthead doesn't get along with it for some reason. Nowadays there is some nice stainless cookware that has a ferrous core that works nicely on that induction unit. And Rob, it also excels in boiling a large quantity of water for tea or pasta! I like the induction unit much better than the ceramic cooktop I put in the house years ago mainly because there is no leftover heat when you finish cooking and it uses much less power.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Induction cook top. [message #290904 is a reply to message #290898] Tue, 24 November 2015 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Terry, I really and truly do understand your viewpoint. I also agree with
you and your wife. The propane warning was for the benefit of all
concerned. I absolutely hate it when another one of these coaches burns,
particularly when it could have been prevented by a good maintenance
program.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Nov 24, 2015 6:36 PM, "Terry" wrote:

> Oh I have no fear of propane in the coach, I still have the furnace and
> fridge hooked up to it and keep the tank over half full at all times, so I'm
> well equipped to get the propane haircut if I don't smell the mercaptan
> before I flick my Bic or switch a switch :lol: The stove/oven just wasn't
> in
> great condition, the cover that forms the back firewall was missing, so
> that protection was non-existent, and the rattling pan supports were pretty
> much in the way anytime I wanted to set something on the counter. It also
> wasn't mounted very securely anymore and was resting on the fenderwell. I
> also was going to be replacing the countertop when replacing that
> ridiculous double tiny sink. I had cooked on the gas stove in the boat
> before and
> always liked the control it gives you on the heat output, but never liked
> the change in flame diameter when using the lightweight cookware we had in
> the boat. Cast iron has always been the favorite of me and my dad, but
> Mrs. Bullitthead doesn't get along with it for some reason. Nowadays there
> is
> some nice stainless cookware that has a ferrous core that works nicely on
> that induction unit. And Rob, it also excels in boiling a large quantity of
> water for tea or pasta! I like the induction unit much better than the
> ceramic cooktop I put in the house years ago mainly because there is no
> leftover heat when you finish cooking and it uses much less power.
> --
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> ASE Master Technician
> 73 Glacier 260
> Smithfield, Va.
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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Induction cook top. [message #290937 is a reply to message #290904] Wed, 25 November 2015 08:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jerry Wheeler, If I remember correctly, has a plug in gas outlet and an AC outlet on his counter and he simply plugs in Gas or Electric burner as required.
Only downside I see is that those burners have to be stowed, taking up storage space.


Pete


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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Induction cook top. [message #290942 is a reply to message #290828] Wed, 25 November 2015 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When I first saw induction cook tops. I too thought that they were just a nice looking hot plate. What I found, was that I was way wrong. Their extremely accurate as to the temp you want. Vary fast, and clean. And don't heat the coach up above the outside temps when we have both roof A/C units on. Linda has always favored gas. And uses that at home along with the induction. I'm installing the built in unit so we gain back counter, and cupboard space. The invertor micro wave will be mounted below. Then on top of is. It will be safer with her in the wheelchair.Bob Dunahugh Member GMCMI78 Royale

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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Induction cook top. [message #290968 is a reply to message #290828] Wed, 25 November 2015 14:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob,

Just curious: Considering the short time needed for microwave cooking, why
not just crank up the Onan for that period? My setup similar to yours (2
ea 6VDC batteries and 1500W inverter) will carry the 1200W microwave for seconds then pulls the battery voltage below the low limit of[/color]
> the inverter and it shuts down and the microwave quits. I reported this
> problem here and it appears that the two 6 vdc batteries
> can't supply power for the micro wave.
>
> Avion's have a galvanized sheet metal enclosure around the Onan which is a
> bit oversize leaving room to store stuff to the right
> (rearward). The house batteries are also located in a galvanized sheet
> metal enclosure (box) accessible under the passenger side
> bed. I am going to take some measurements on The Blue Streak here in
> Sydney to see if I can make up a new Onan enclosure that is
> narrower side to side which will allow me to make a larger battery box
> that will hold four 6vdc batteries which will increase the
> amperage significantly.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6710-xantrex-inverter-installation.html
>
> Damn! I just realized something The Blue Streak does not have an Onan in
> it so I can't take the measurements I need! I found the
> following photo on the PhotoSite and the unit is an Avion, As you can see
> the owner made a box that fits in next to the Onan. I need
> the width of the compartment that box slides into. Could someone with an
> Avion please measure the distance from the side of the
> Onan's green enclosure to the galvanized enclosure? I'm guessing it will
> be around 6 inches.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Dunahugh
>
> When I first saw induction cook tops. I too thought that they were just a
> nice looking hot plate. What I found, was that I was way
> wrong. Their extremely accurate as to the temp you want. Vary fast, and
> clean. And don't heat the coach up above the outside temps
> when we have both roof A/C units on. Linda has always favored gas. And
> uses that at home along with the induction. I'm installing
> the built in unit so we gain back counter, and cupboard space. The
> invertor micro wave will be mounted below. Then on top of is. It
> will be safer with her in the wheelchair.Bob Dunahugh Member GMCMI78
> Royale
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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Induction cook top. [message #290969 is a reply to message #290968] Wed, 25 November 2015 17:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken,

The reason for the inverter is:

Helen and I were at a roadside stop and wanted to microwave something for lunch, the way we had to park situated the Onan towards a group of people close to our parking spot sitting at a picnic table. I cranked it up and about two minutes later I got a knock on the door. There stood one of the people from that table who asked me if I could please shut it down as it was disturbing their peace. I apologized, reached up to the switch on the panel above the door and shut it down while that person was standing in the doorway. They thanked me and that was that.

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Rob M.
The Pedantic (but Considerate) Mechanic

PS - Hmmmmmm, please don't construe the addition to my nickname as saying you're not!

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Henderson

Rob,

Just curious: Considering the short time needed for microwave cooking, why
not just crank up the Onan for that period? My setup similar to yours (2
ea 6VDC batteries and 1500W inverter) will carry the 1200W microwave for


Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Induction cook top. [message #290973 is a reply to message #290942] Wed, 25 November 2015 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob,

I installed a 2000 Xantrex watt inverter to power the micro wave in Double Trouble and feed it with two 6 vdc 245 amp hour batteries
and unfortunately it doesn't work. The microwave comes on for a few seconds then pulls the battery voltage below the low limit of
the inverter and it shuts down and the microwave quits. I reported this problem here and it appears that the two 6 vdc batteries
can't supply power for the micro wave.

Avion's have a galvanized sheet metal enclosure around the Onan which is a bit oversize leaving room to store stuff to the right
(rearward). The house batteries are also located in a galvanized sheet metal enclosure (box) accessible under the passenger side
bed. I am going to take some measurements on The Blue Streak here in Sydney to see if I can make up a new Onan enclosure that is
narrower side to side which will allow me to make a larger battery box that will hold four 6vdc batteries which will increase the
amperage significantly.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6710-xantrex-inverter-installation.html

Damn! I just realized something The Blue Streak does not have an Onan in it so I can't take the measurements I need! I found the
following photo on the PhotoSite and the unit is an Avion, As you can see the owner made a box that fits in next to the Onan. I need
the width of the compartment that box slides into. Could someone with an Avion please measure the distance from the side of the
Onan's green enclosure to the galvanized enclosure? I'm guessing it will be around 6 inches.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Dunahugh

When I first saw induction cook tops. I too thought that they were just a nice looking hot plate. What I found, was that I was way
wrong. Their extremely accurate as to the temp you want. Vary fast, and clean. And don't heat the coach up above the outside temps
when we have both roof A/C units on. Linda has always favored gas. And uses that at home along with the induction. I'm installing
the built in unit so we gain back counter, and cupboard space. The invertor micro wave will be mounted below. Then on top of is. It
will be safer with her in the wheelchair.Bob Dunahugh Member GMCMI78 Royale


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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Induction cook top. [message #290975 is a reply to message #290973] Wed, 25 November 2015 18:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dolph Santorine is currently offline  Dolph Santorine   United States
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Rob

I've had great luck with the Xantrex. I have 4/0 feeding it, but we have no trouble running the coffee pot and the refrigerator or the microwave and the refrigerator. The refrigerator draws about 115 watts (measured). The microwave 750 without the convection.

The DC draw is significant when the Xantrex is producing north of 1kw. You also have the option of setting the low voltage warning under load.

Dolph Santorine

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1-ton, Sullybuilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010,


> On Nov 25, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Robert Mueller wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> I installed a 2000 Xantrex watt inverter to power the micro wave in Double Trouble and feed it with two 6 vdc 245 amp hour batteries
> and unfortunately it doesn't work. The microwave comes on for a few seconds then pulls the battery voltage below the low limit of
> the inverter and it shuts down and the microwave quits. I reported this problem here and it appears that the two 6 vdc batteries
> can't supply power for the micro wave.
>
> Avion's have a galvanized sheet metal enclosure around the Onan which is a bit oversize leaving room to store stuff to the right
> (rearward). The house batteries are also located in a galvanized sheet metal enclosure (box) accessible under the passenger side
> bed. I am going to take some measurements on The Blue Streak here in Sydney to see if I can make up a new Onan enclosure that is
> narrower side to side which will allow me to make a larger battery box that will hold four 6vdc batteries which will increase the
> amperage significantly.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6710-xantrex-inverter-installation.html
>
> Damn! I just realized something The Blue Streak does not have an Onan in it so I can't take the measurements I need! I found the
> following photo on the PhotoSite and the unit is an Avion, As you can see the owner made a box that fits in next to the Onan. I need
> the width of the compartment that box slides into. Could someone with an Avion please measure the distance from the side of the
> Onan's green enclosure to the galvanized enclosure? I'm guessing it will be around 6 inches.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Dunahugh
>
> When I first saw induction cook tops. I too thought that they were just a nice looking hot plate. What I found, was that I was way
> wrong. Their extremely accurate as to the temp you want. Vary fast, and clean. And don't heat the coach up above the outside temps
> when we have both roof A/C units on. Linda has always favored gas. And uses that at home along with the induction. I'm installing
> the built in unit so we gain back counter, and cupboard space. The invertor micro wave will be mounted below. Then on top of is. It
> will be safer with her in the wheelchair.Bob Dunahugh Member GMCMI78 Royale
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Induction cook top. [message #290977 is a reply to message #290973] Wed, 25 November 2015 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Dr is currently offline  The Dr   United States
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USAussie wrote on Wed, 25 November 2015 12:44
Bob,


Damn! I just realized something The Blue Streak does not have an Onan in it so I can't take the measurements I need! I found the
following photo on the PhotoSite and the unit is an Avion, As you can see the owner made a box that fits in next to the Onan. I need
the width of the compartment that box slides into. Could someone with an Avion please measure the distance from the side of the
Onan's green enclosure to the galvanized enclosure? I'm guessing it will be around 6 inches.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic




I measure 7 7/8 inches wide at the front. Toward middle there is a bolt and plate which reduces the width to about 7 1/2 inches. It's about 25 1/2 inches deep at the bottom and 15 1/4 inches high.

Hope that helps.


Mike Sauer Toledo, OR 1975 26' Avion 1-ton front end, SullyBilt AirBag System, 3.21 tranny
Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Induction cook top. [message #290982 is a reply to message #290977] Wed, 25 November 2015 20:36 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Mike,

Thanks Mate!

EXACTLY what I needed to know!

See the following:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/aa-miscellaneous-photos/p59589-avion-house-batteries.html

I'm heading to the workshop tomorrow and I'll mark up the Onan enclosure in The Blue Streak to see if I am correct vis-à-vis fitting
the extra batteries.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Sauer

I measure 7 7/8 inches wide at the front. Toward middle there is a bolt and plate which reduces the width to about 7 1/2 inches.
It's about 25 1/2 inches deep at the bottom and 15 1/4 inches high.

Hope that helps.
--
Mike


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