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Beach Coach is currently offline  Beach Coach   Canada
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I found this Ebay ad via an Oodle search.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1976-GMC-Transmode-Class-A-Motor-Coach-RV/171998953093?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkpar

I am curious about the method used to stretch this GMC; any comments would be appreciated.

Hugh MacDougall, Nova Scotia Canada


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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Stretch for sale on Ebay [message #290404 is a reply to message #290400] Mon, 16 November 2015 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hugh,

The length of the stretch and the resulting rear wheel "overhang" is going to result in lots of scraping going in and out of
driveways.

The wood work, while being very attractive, is also probably very heavy. I'd ask the seller what the GMC weighs if I was interested
in buying it.

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Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

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From: Beach Coach

I found this Ebay ad via an Oodle search.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1976-GMC-Transmode-Class-A-Motor-Coach-RV/171998953093?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkpar

I am curious about the method used to stretch this GMC; any comments would be appreciated.

Hugh


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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Stretch for sale on Ebay [message #290405 is a reply to message #290404] Mon, 16 November 2015 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What WAS or BECAME an attractive coach before a big, fat, and ugly Kim Kardashian butt was grafted on to it. Just as ungainly and unattractive!

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> From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 07:04:30 +1100
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Stretch for sale on Ebay
>
> Hugh,
>
> The length of the stretch and the resulting rear wheel "overhang" is going to result in lots of scraping going in and out of
> driveways.
>
> The wood work, while being very attractive, is also probably very heavy. I'd ask the seller what the GMC weighs if I was interested
> in buying it.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beach Coach
>
> I found this Ebay ad via an Oodle search.
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1976-GMC-Transmode-Class-A-Motor-Coach-RV/171998953093?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkpar
>
> I am curious about the method used to stretch this GMC; any comments would be appreciated.
>
> Hugh
>
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Re: GMC Stretch for sale on Ebay [message #290407 is a reply to message #290400] Mon, 16 November 2015 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've seen a bunch of 2 and 3' stretches done that way. Any more and you get handling/traction problems...plus it looks 'off' imo. But then, some folks think Kartrasian is attractive... Surprised

Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: GMC Stretch for sale on Ebay [message #290415 is a reply to message #290407] Mon, 16 November 2015 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Overloaded tires and wheels. Dangerous. Brakes?
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Re: GMC Stretch for sale on Ebay [message #290418 is a reply to message #290400] Mon, 16 November 2015 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That is a lot of ass hanging out over the back. The woodwork is nice, but not my cup of tea. This looks like one of those projects by a dude who didn't know when to quit grafting stuff on.
At least it appears to have a walk around bed in the back, which, is one reason to go that much farther behind the wheel wells.


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Re: GMC Stretch for sale on Ebay [message #290419 is a reply to message #290400] Mon, 16 November 2015 15:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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...Also, how do you turn the thing without taking out the car in the next lane over?



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Re: GMC Stretch for sale on Ebay [message #290421 is a reply to message #290400] Mon, 16 November 2015 17:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Front traction is already a problem on my standard coach. This coach is going to transfer even more weight off the front, reducing traction even more. Bad idea.

Jack Christensen - K6ROW, '76 Glenbrook/Clasco - "The Silver Bullet", Sebastopol, CA
Re: [GMCnet] GMC Stretch for sale on Ebay [message #290445 is a reply to message #290407] Tue, 17 November 2015 06:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kerry,

Clarence Buskirk stretched them "correctly." He added 3' but moved the bogies back so that the stretch was in between the front and
rear wheels not hanging out over the ass end.

http://gmcmotorhome.com/tech/buskirk/index.html

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

PS - I think you meant KarTRASHian? :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Kerry Pinkerton

I've seen a bunch of 2 and 3' stretches done that way. Any more and you get handling/traction problems...plus it looks 'off' imo.
But then, some folks think Kartrasian is attractive... :o
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Re: GMC Stretch for sale on Ebay [message #290452 is a reply to message #290400] Tue, 17 November 2015 08:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They fixed the weight bias by adding a second layer of dash board and a bunch of gauges and screens. ( which blocks the panoramic view to some extent) More is not better is the adage to remember. Nice job misdirected.

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Re: GMC Stretch for sale on Ebay [message #290455 is a reply to message #290400] Tue, 17 November 2015 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi ther
I have some thoughts but some may not agree, but heres what I feel about a stretch.
The first problem is they are expensive. It seems most take out loans to do the stretch and those coaches alwasy end up for sale, i am guessing they want to get out from under the loan.

there is extra weight added and if they are like my 26, there isn't quite enough power from that 455 as far as i am concerned. I read a note ontime about a stretch where they said they had to wait for it because it had problems making the hills.

Of course the rear overhang is a lot of concern for scraping and the additional weight on the wheel bearings cannot be over looked.

I agree that a stretch is really attractive if done right but I am unsure if the engineering of the bearings, which were designed for an OEM coach will take the stresses with all that extra bulk added on as well as the concern of maneuverability and where can you actually park it when on the road.

These are just my thoughts but I have alwasy felt bad for the coaches that were stretched and then see them for sale a few years later. Seems to take any advantage away, doesn't it.

s
Re: [GMCnet] GMC Stretch for sale on Ebay [message #290465 is a reply to message #290455] Tue, 17 November 2015 10:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We've had our 73 Stretch since 2005. It is based on a 74 CanyonLands. Don't
know who did the stretch, but have only seen one other from this particular
manufacturer. It is stretched roughly 3 feet behind the bogies. It has
proven to be a wonderful transition from the 76 Palm Beach that we had for
7 years. We have put over 50k miles on it in the 10 years since we took
over stewardship. I have kept it updated with the various new products that
have been offered by the great GMC vendors. The rear bearings and the stock
suspension are working just fine. I did put the 1-Ton System and the
Reaction Arm systems on it and it certainly stops better. The Bogie
Greasers are great. I tow a vehicle or a trailer every time we go anywhere
so it is slower going over the hills, but I'm retired and I really don't
care. I drive 55 on the Rostra cruise control. It does scrape the rearend
at times but I have 5 heavy duty wheels across the back to keep it rolling.
I have never turned sharp enough to hit anything with the rearend. I love
driving this thing, and if the grandkids hadn't gotten bigger I wouldn't
have bought the SOB, but just found out that they won't be traveling with
us anymore so now I have to convince Diana to give up the extra space and
get back into the Stretch. It's going to be tough.

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73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Stretch for sale on Ebay [message #290481 is a reply to message #290465] Tue, 17 November 2015 19:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,

The blurb on this auction notes that the GMC is 30 feet in length and quite frankly it looks more than that to me so I wonder what
the seller measured bumper to bumper or the body?

Maybe the guy is selling it because he's tired of tearing up the 3" dump plumbing? ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Stretch for sale on Ebay [message #290490 is a reply to message #290465] Tue, 17 November 2015 21:17 Go to previous message
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We own chassis #5 of the 7 Buskirk Stretches that were built from 1996 thru 2001. The coaches are actually only 29 foot 6 inches in actual stretch with aprox. 36” before the the axles and about 6” after the axles. It was called a proportional stretch and Clarence Buskirk talked with the GMC engineers on the best way to do it. Other than the wheel base the coach evolved from coach 1 thru coach 7, with the suspension changing from almost stock to an upgraded Buskirk HD version of the Leigh Harrison 4 bag system. All the units came with drum brakes on the rear bogy and coaches #4 up had the Leigh Harrison 12 1/2” Ford disk brakes on the middle bogy and the bearing have never been an issue. I do not know what coaches 2 & 3 had as I do not have any info on them and have not found any info on them. Chassis 2 is supposedly in Michigan and Chassis 3 in the upper midwest. Any help would be appreciated.

The Buskirk Stretch coaches are very will balanced and do not weight as much as you would think! Ours weight empty is right at 13000# and the axles weights are also balance with 1/3 on the front and 2/3 on the back bogies. The interiors were made out of real wood and not the heavy particle board. Ours is light Maple wood and coach 6 is cherry wood.

As for power getting down the road these coaches are pretty peppy. The early coaches were pretty stock, but coaches 4 and up had several engine combinations with 4, 6 & 7 having 500+ cu inch BB Chevys with MPFI and chassis 5 has a Jasper 461 Olds with MPFI. Our gearing is a 3.21 final with a 3.50 chain drive which equals a 3.66 final ratio. We tow and fully loaded going out for 4 months with the Honda CRV we are at close to 19000# and we cruise at 64 mph all day long and it climbs the hills and mountains.

JR Wright
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78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan

> On Nov 17, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Gary Berry wrote:
> We've had our 73 Stretch since 2005. It is based on a 74 CanyonLands. Don't
> know who did the stretch, but have only seen one other from this particular
> Manufacturer. It is stretched roughly 3 feet behind the bogies. It has
> proven to be a wonderful transition from the 76 Palm Beach that we had for
> 7 years. We have put over 50k miles on it in the 10 years since we took
> over stewardship. I have kept it updated with the various new products that
> have been offered by the great GMC vendors. The rear bearings and the stock
> suspension are working just fine. I did put the 1-Ton System and the
> Reaction Arm systems on it and it certainly stops better. The Bogie
> Greasers are great. I tow a vehicle or a trailer every time we go anywhere
> so it is slower going over the hills, but I'm retired and I really don't
> care. I drive 55 on the Rostra cruise control. It does scrape the rearend
> at times but I have 5 heavy duty wheels across the back to keep it rolling.
> I have never turned sharp enough to hit anything with the rearend. I love
> driving this thing, and if the grandkids hadn't gotten bigger I wouldn't
> have bought the SOB, but just found out that they won't be traveling with
> us anymore so now I have to convince Diana to give up the extra space and
> get back into the Stretch. It's going to be tough.
>
> --
> Gary and Diana Berry
> 73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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