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Running Speaker Wires to Rear of Coach [message #273995] Thu, 19 March 2015 01:28 Go to next message
Broham is currently offline  Broham   United States
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hello all,

What is the best way to run new speaker wires to the rear? down the center above the hearliner? down the side behind the trim that seperates the headliner and side panels? left or right side?

thank you all in advance

Todd


Todd Owner of a 1976 Eleganza II 26’ other toys: 93 Vette 84 Goldwing and gone but not forgotten 72 CB750 Chopper 96 Caprice Classic 34 Ford roadster 94 Fleetwood
Re: Running Speaker Wires to Rear of Coach [message #273998 is a reply to message #273995] Thu, 19 March 2015 07:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tphipps is currently offline  tphipps   United States
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Todd, I suspect that both methods will work. Having pulled the entire headliner down and seeing all the potential hang up points represented by the roof structure, this may be the most difficult method. A long wire snake, with it's tendency to twist, will be stopped from sliding easily by these obstacles. If you have access to the wire handling tools used by cable or computer network installers, they are stiffer, and may do the trick.
The plastic trim, between the headliner and the sidewalls, might be the best choice. Mine is off right now, and there appears to be no obstacle
down that channel. A wire snake should have smooth sailing. I did not see any if much difference between right side and left side. I would consider both the entrance and exit points in this choice.
These thoughts are based on my Avion. Your coach might be somewhat different. Avion did place a 12v pair in the channel over the entrance door, bringing power to the lights over the dinette area.
I would use a wiring cable that has the two pairs contained in a protective sheath. This would keep the wires together and provide less resistance to sliding past any restrictions.
Tom, MS II


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Re: [GMCnet] Running Speaker Wires to Rear of Coach [message #273999 is a reply to message #273998] Thu, 19 March 2015 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powwerjon is currently offline  powwerjon   United States
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Todd,
You can run the wires down both sides, but I have found the drivers side somewhat easier. This is a good tool to snake it thru.



Later coaches did not use the common ground in the speaker system. The rear speakers are actually pretty useless being that they are so far back, I would suggest a new set of speakers in the under the cabinets and a replacement along the side panel by you feet next to the front seats. I would not use the factory speakers if your looking for good sound. I did use the drivers side 4” speaker for the CB.


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I also added a subwoofer under the couch for a little added punch.


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Another trick is in a 4 speaker system is to reverse the rear speaker wiring, called cross firing and it will give you a more equalized full sound. I know that Jim B. does this on systems he has put in coaches.

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Michigan
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> On Mar 19, 2015, at 5:26 AM, Thomas Phipps wrote:
>
> Todd, I suspect that both methods will work. Having pulled the entire headliner down and seeing all the potential hang up points represented by the
> roof structure, this may be the most difficult method. A long wire snake, with it's tendency to twist, will be stopped from sliding easily by these
> obstacles. If you have access to the wire handling tools used by cable or computer network installers, they are stiffer, and may do the trick.
> The plastic trim, between the headliner and the sidewalls, might be the best choice. Mine is off right now, and there appears to be no obstacle
> down that channel. A wire snake should have smooth sailing. I did not see any if much difference between right side and left side. I would
> consider both the entrance and exit points in this choice.
> I would use a wiring cable that has the two pairs contained in a a sheath. This would keep the wires together and provide less resistance to sliding
> past any restrictions.
> Tom, MS II
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Re: [GMCnet] Running Speaker Wires to Rear of Coach [message #274000 is a reply to message #273999] Thu, 19 March 2015 10:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tphipps is currently offline  tphipps   United States
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For a better "CB" speaker, you should get one of the specific speakers designed for that usage.
MFJ makes a very nice small voice optimized speaker for a mere $15 and free shipping. I have one installed directly behind my left ear on the driver side window trim. Works well with my Ham Radio.

http://www.dxengineering.com/search/part-type/speakers/product-line/dx-engineering-dxe-281-communications-speakers?autoview=SKU&sortby=Default& ;sortorder=Ascending

Then, you do not have to worry about cross-talk or damaging your GMC speakers or radio. JWID.
Tom, MS II

I do not have an installed CB and do not intend to go that route.


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Re: [GMCnet] Running Speaker Wires to Rear of Coach [message #274005 is a reply to message #274000] Thu, 19 March 2015 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Broham is currently offline  Broham   United States
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Thanks for all the input. It looks like I should run speaker and video cables down the side.

Todd Owner of a 1976 Eleganza II 26’ other toys: 93 Vette 84 Goldwing and gone but not forgotten 72 CB750 Chopper 96 Caprice Classic 34 Ford roadster 94 Fleetwood
Re: Running Speaker Wires to Rear of Coach [message #274006 is a reply to message #273995] Thu, 19 March 2015 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's probably gonna depend on the interior layout. I went in the space under the cabinets in mine, the drivers side is covered all the way back. Went over the rear cap with the pax side wire. I pulled double, and a CAT5. It looks like they'll be used up. Always pull some extras when you pull wire - the cost is negligible compared to the PIA of doing it again.

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Re: [GMCnet] Running Speaker Wires to Rear of Coach [message #274010 is a reply to message #274006] Thu, 19 March 2015 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I pulled speaker wire along the left side upper trim plate. It was easy for me as I had everything off. I now have 6 speakers in total with the two front cap speakers on the front channel and the rear 4 on the rear channel. I’m a hard-rock, thumpa-thumpa-thump kind of guy, though I’d like to add a subwoofer to fill in the bass.

2 in the front cap, 2 mid cabin (in the overhead cabinets - over dinette and sink), and two in the rear cap.

Larry Davick
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Re: [GMCnet] Running Speaker Wires to Rear of Coach [message #274012 is a reply to message #274010] Thu, 19 March 2015 12:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Has anyone ever thought about wireless speakers? Need power but no speaker wires.
Re: [GMCnet] Running Speaker Wires to Rear of Coach [message #274014 is a reply to message #274012] Thu, 19 March 2015 13:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I could see using wireless speakers for outside music or movies, but inside the coach it’s just a one time bit of work to wire them up. It’s not really a tough job but takes an afternoon or two to do.

Larry Davick
A Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, CA

> On Mar 19, 2015, at 10:43 AM, A. wrote:
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> Has anyone ever thought about wireless speakers? Need power but no speaker wires.
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Re: [GMCnet] Running Speaker Wires to Rear of Coach [message #274015 is a reply to message #274012] Thu, 19 March 2015 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Would probably be very easy to add a Bluetooth speaker set. They are getting cheap.

Just get a radio with Bluetooth. Put the speakers in the rear and add power to them.
Tom, MS II


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Re: [GMCnet] Running Speaker Wires to Rear of Coach [message #274016 is a reply to message #274015] Thu, 19 March 2015 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In my 1976 Royale one of the rear speakers is in the closet!

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Re: [GMCnet] Running Speaker Wires to Rear of Coach [message #274027 is a reply to message #274016] Thu, 19 March 2015 22:20 Go to previous message
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Otterwan wrote on Thu, 19 March 2015 13:48
In my 1976 Royale one of the rear speakers is in the closet!


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