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Stopping a squeak on the hatch [message #268483] Mon, 29 December 2014 18:51 Go to next message
kerry pinkerton is currently offline  kerry pinkerton   United States
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My breather rubs on the bottom of my hatch on the passenger side and makes an annoying squeak. Here is my solution.

I noticed that the breather wanted to drop down on the left (snorkle) side which caused the right side to lift up. Thinking that if I can hold the breather level, it wouldn't rub on the hatch bottom, I came up with this:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc/p56766-img-20141229-122234-682.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6256/IMG_20141229_122234_682.jpg

Which screws onto the bottom of the breather at the base of the snorkle:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc/p56768-img-20141229-122423-312.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6256/IMG_20141229_122423_312.jpg

The bottom, which has a split piece of vacuum hose on it to protect the paint and metal of the valve cover, sits on the valve cover flange.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc/p56770-img-20141229-122459-944.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6256/IMG_20141229_122459_944.jpg

This is where the lid was rubbing on the hatch bottom.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc/p56772-img-20141229-122615-893.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6256/IMG_20141229_122615_893.jpg

And this is the hatch bottom that I had previously ground down about 1/16" in order to provide clearance. It didn't help.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc/p56774-img-20141229-122623-292.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6256/IMG_20141229_122623_292.jpg

The noise wasn't a constant thing so I won't know if it really works for a few hundred miles. The right side is a good 1/8-3/16" lower than it was and the breather sits flat on the carb. I think it will work fine.


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: [GMCnet] Stopping a squeak on the hatch [message #268485 is a reply to message #268483] Mon, 29 December 2014 19:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Kerry,

The important point is: Does the air cleaner base fit tightly on the
carburetor flange? A lot of abrasive grit can be pulled through there if
not.

IIRC correctly, you've already replaced the body/frame pads. If not, you
need to do so to get more clearance there. Also check the front
"doughnuts" at the front. You should not be having that interference. I'm
not sure that any one of us knows how thick the installed doughnuts should
be, so some experimental shimming may be in order.

Ken H.

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Kerry Pinkerton
wrote:

> My breather rubs on the bottom of my hatch on the passenger side and makes
> an annoying squeak. Here is my solution.
> ​...
>
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Re: Stopping a squeak on the hatch [message #268493 is a reply to message #268483] Mon, 29 December 2014 22:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mild bill is currently offline  mild bill   Canada
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Frame pads first thing that came to my mind..
Re: Stopping a squeak on the hatch [message #268500 is a reply to message #268493] Tue, 30 December 2014 05:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerry pinkerton is currently offline  kerry pinkerton   United States
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mild bill wrote on Mon, 29 December 2014 22:34
Frame pads first thing that came to my mind..


I've already done new, thicke,r pads. Haven't done the front doughnuts yet because I could not break the nuts loose and my oil cooler is in the way. This seemed like a simple fix. The bottom of the breather does fit flat on the carb gasket Ken. I doubt that it did before.


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: Stopping a squeak on the hatch [message #268507 is a reply to message #268483] Tue, 30 December 2014 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jon payne is currently offline  Jon payne   United States
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I was going to make a similar post to this one, in that my air cleaner is also rubbing on the hatch in the same exact spot. I was going to question whether the air cleaner should be level/parallel with the hatch as mine is not. See below pictures. Body pads were replaced several years ago and now I noticed the hatch rubbing on the air cleaner. Air cleaner is on the carb correctly. So I guess what needs to be replaced next is the front donuts? Are new ones available? I don't recall seeing them on JimKs website.

Jon

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/5607/medium/Hatch.jpg
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/5607/medium/Hatch.jpg
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/5607/medium/hatch2.jpg
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/5607/medium/hatch2.jpg


Jon Payne
76 Palm Beach
Westfield,IN
Re: [GMCnet] Stopping a squeak on the hatch [message #268509 is a reply to message #268507] Tue, 30 December 2014 10:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Kerry, check the seal around the hatch. They collapse, lowering the cover
towards the air cleaner.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Dec 30, 2014 8:11 AM, "Jon Payne" wrote:

> I was going to make a similar post to this one, in that my air cleaner is
> also rubbing on the hatch in the same exact spot. I was going to question
> whether the air cleaner should be level/parallel with the hatch as mine is
> not. See below pictures. Body pads were replaced several years ago and now
> I noticed the hatch rubbing on the air cleaner. Air cleaner is on the carb
> correctly. So I guess what needs to be replaced next is the front donuts?
> Are new ones available? I don't recall seeing them on JimKs website.
>
> Jon
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/5607/medium/Hatch.jpg
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/5607/medium/hatch2.jpg
>
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> 76 Palm Beach
> Westfield,IN
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Re: [GMCnet] Stopping a squeak on the hatch [message #268511 is a reply to message #268507] Tue, 30 December 2014 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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You can also take a router and cut the bottom of the hatch a little deeper to give more clearance.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO


> On Dec 30, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Jon Payne wrote:
>
> I was going to make a similar post to this one, in that my air cleaner is also rubbing on the hatch in the same exact spot. I was going to question
> whether the air cleaner should be level/parallel with the hatch as mine is not. See below pictures. Body pads were replaced several years ago and now
> I noticed the hatch rubbing on the air cleaner. Air cleaner is on the carb correctly. So I guess what needs to be replaced next is the front donuts?
> Are new ones available? I don't recall seeing them on JimKs website.
>
> Jon
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/5607/medium/Hatch.jpg
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/5607/medium/hatch2.jpg
>
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> 76 Palm Beach
> Westfield,IN
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Re: [GMCnet] Stopping a squeak on the hatch [message #268513 is a reply to message #268511] Tue, 30 December 2014 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sgltrac is currently offline  sgltrac   United States
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I did as Emory said as well as adding 1/4" spacer to the "donut" front mounts to match the additional 1/4" offered by Jim Bounds 1/2" pads. Lotts o room now and coach body happier.

Todd Sullivan

Sully
77 royale
Seattle

> On Dec 30, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Emery Stora wrote:
>
> You can also take a router and cut the bottom of the hatch a little deeper to give more clearance.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
>
>
>> On Dec 30, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Jon Payne wrote:
>>
>> I was going to make a similar post to this one, in that my air cleaner is also rubbing on the hatch in the same exact spot. I was going to question
>> whether the air cleaner should be level/parallel with the hatch as mine is not. See below pictures. Body pads were replaced several years ago and now
>> I noticed the hatch rubbing on the air cleaner. Air cleaner is on the carb correctly. So I guess what needs to be replaced next is the front donuts?
>> Are new ones available? I don't recall seeing them on JimKs website.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/5607/medium/Hatch.jpg
>>
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/5607/medium/hatch2.jpg
>>
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>> 76 Palm Beach
>> Westfield,IN
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Re: [GMCnet] Stopping a squeak on the hatch [message #268515 is a reply to message #268485] Tue, 30 December 2014 14:45 Go to previous message
Ron Johnson is currently offline  Ron Johnson   United States
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You might want to check the top of the air cleaner for level, maybe the
engine has settled on the left side.

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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Stopping a squeak on the hatch

I was going to make a similar post to this one, in that my air cleaner is
also rubbing on the hatch in the same exact spot. I was going to question
whether the air cleaner should be level/parallel with the hatch as mine is
not. See below pictures. Body pads were replaced several years ago and now
I noticed the hatch rubbing on the air cleaner. Air cleaner is on the carb
correctly. So I guess what needs to be replaced next is the front donuts?
Are new ones available? I don't recall seeing them on JimKs website.

Jon

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/5607/medium/Hatch.jpg

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/5607/medium/hatch2.jpg

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76 Palm Beach
Westfield,IN
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