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Mon, 06 October 2014 18:44  |
lotsofspareparts
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After 5 years of owning a travel trailer what I am about to describe has never happened.....
Outside waiting for the Hawks game to start, smoking and having a beer, the call of nature arrived so I stepped into the MH did my stand up business, flushed the toilet and while it was flushing I got a face full of little black flys or knats maybe that came flying out of the toilet as it was flushing
Seems these bugs are inside of my holding tank. Anyone else ever had a similar problem?
Seriously perplexed by this....
Jared
Jared & Tina Lazaron + 14yr old Daughter.....
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| Re: Something just happened I have never seen before.... [message #263611 is a reply to message #263607] |
Mon, 06 October 2014 19:47  |
lotsofspareparts
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Damnit Dave, seems like your link hit the nail right on the head, stored for 12 years, and did still have solids in the tank when I flushed it out.
This sucks, and the first time I have seen it since we bought the coach. I flushed the crap out of it too (pardon the pun).
I'm wondering if a gallon of bleach plus a tank filled to the brim will rid me of them.......
Jared
Jared & Tina Lazaron + 14yr old Daughter.....
77 Eleganza II "Recherché".....
73 Canyon Lands 230 "Elephant"
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| Re: Something just happened I have never seen before.... [message #263614 is a reply to message #263611] |
Mon, 06 October 2014 19:57 |
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I worked in retail nursery for 13 years and here's what we used to recommend. Go to Home Depot and get a powdered garden insecticide containing pyrethrins. My knowledge of brands is out of date but it will be something like Ortho Tomato Dust and it will say "safe for vegetables" on it. It comes in about a 1 lb can and is just a few dollars. Empty your black water tank, then fill it about half full (with fresh water!) and flush the powder. Fill it as full as you can. Leave for as long as you can, at least 24 hours, drive a bit if you can to distribute it around the tank, then dump. You might have to do it again in a few days as I am not sure it kills the eggs.
Once you get the tank cleaned out and the current batch of critters killed they shouldn't return. Never leave the black tank with stuff in it any longer than necessary.
1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
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| Re: [GMCnet] Something just happened I have never seen before.... [message #263615 is a reply to message #263611] |
Mon, 06 October 2014 19:55 |
Bruce Hart
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Jared,
You might want to rig up a sprinkler head with a long nipple or sprinkler
pipe, connected to your garden hose and try to use the higher pressure to
knock out the caked on matter.
You seem to be knowledgeable enough to get it figured out with the right
parts and pieces.
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Jared wrote:
> Damnit Dave, seems like your link hit the nail right on the head, stored
> for 12 years, and did still have solids in the tank when I flushed it out.
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> This sucks, and the first time I have seen it since we bought the coach. I
> flushed the crap out of it too (pardon the pun).
>
> I'm wondering if a gallon of bleach plus a tank filled to the brim will
> rid me of them.......
>
>
> Jared
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| Re: Something just happened I have never seen before.... [message #263616 is a reply to message #263607] |
Mon, 06 October 2014 20:05 |
kerry pinkerton
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Before most trips, I fog our coach with something like this:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_47139-316-HG-20177_0__?productId=4743325&Ntt=insect+foggers&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNtt%3Dinsect%2Bfoggers&facetInfo=
I just open all the doors and drawers (we keep things in plastic bags sealed up between trips) and start a fogger. 2 hours or more later, air it out and there ain't a single living thing in the coach. Ants, roaches, spiders, bugs, nothing. Wife likes that. In the South, we have critters all year long.
I bet you could tie a string around one of these, set it off, and drop it in the black tank and take care of the problem. Make sure the string won't come off for obvious reasons. You're going to want to get it back out in a few hours. The tank is vented so there won't be a pressure problem.
I'd also think some (perhaps 32 oz) liquid SEVIN insecticide in a non-empty full tank followed by a vigorous drive (I'd pour it down the vent pipe to be sure you got any in there, it will all end up in the black tank.
Personally, I'd do the fogger first.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Something just happened I have never seen before.... [message #263618 is a reply to message #263615] |
Mon, 06 October 2014 20:12 |
lotsofspareparts
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Bruce Hart wrote on Mon, 06 October 2014 17:55Jared,
You might want to rig up a sprinkler head with a long nipple or sprinkler
pipe, connected to your garden hose and try to use the higher pressure to
knock out the caked on matter.
You seem to be knowledgeable enough to get it figured out with the right
parts and pieces.
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Jared wrote:
> Damnit Dave, seems like your link hit the nail right on the head, stored
> for 12 years, and did still have solids in the tank when I flushed it out.
>
> This sucks, and the first time I have seen it since we bought the coach. I
> flushed the crap out of it too (pardon the pun).
>
> I'm wondering if a gallon of bleach plus a tank filled to the brim will
> rid me of them.......
>
>
> Jared
> --
> Jared & Tina Lazaron + 7yr old Daughter.
>
> 77 Eleganza II "Recherché" Winterfeldt 455, Holley ProJection, Doug
> Thorley Headers, 3in exhaust, Switch Pitch, Alcoas, ONAN 6.5 Emerald
> series, CMC
> Restoration
>
> GO SEAHAWKS!!
>
> Arlington, WA 98223
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I have a high powered tank sprayer that I used when I initially flushed it, I am thinking I will follow Daves recommendation with the insectisides and follow it up with another high powered spray and hope it cures the problem. I am going to start with a high level bleach treatment to start. We are done using the coach for the year so I will do the bleach, let it sit for a few weeks, run down to the rest station and empty and flush out.
Will do an insecticide treatment after that with a flush and hopefully they will be gone for good.
I think I am going to net off my holding tank vent also.
Jared
Jared & Tina Lazaron + 14yr old Daughter.....
77 Eleganza II "Recherché".....
73 Canyon Lands 230 "Elephant"
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| Re: Something just happened I have never seen before.... [message #263619 is a reply to message #263616] |
Mon, 06 October 2014 20:15 |
Otterwan
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You shouldn't ever need to fog your coach here. The cold winters and mild summers keep the bugs down. Virtually no flea or and problems. I wouldn't fog the coach unless you see something other than the flies.
1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
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| Re: Something just happened I have never seen before.... [message #263622 is a reply to message #263619] |
Mon, 06 October 2014 20:20 |
kerry pinkerton
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Otterwan wrote on Mon, 06 October 2014 20:15You shouldn't ever need to fog your coach here. The cold winters and mild summers keep the bugs down. Virtually no flea or and problems. I wouldn't fog the coach unless you see something other than the flies.
We have brown recluse spiders that are endemic to this part of the country. You don't want to share space with them. Ants too. It's amazing how fast ants can invade a space. We have enough bugs that killing a few 'good ones' isn't a concern to me.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: Something just happened I have never seen before.... [message #263623 is a reply to message #263622] |
Mon, 06 October 2014 20:25 |
Otterwan
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kerry pinkerton wrote on Mon, 06 October 2014 18:20We have brown recluse spiders that are endemic to this part of the country. You don't want to share space with them. Ants too. It's amazing how fast ants can invade a space. We have enough bugs that killing a few 'good ones' isn't a concern to me.
In the west side of Washington state there are no poisonous bugs, snakes, etc. No ticks or chiggers. Only dampwood termites (the kind that infest wood that is already rotting). In 40 years of camping all over this half of the state, most of the time with dogs, we've never had an insect problem in an RV.
We do have red jellyfish that will burn you like acid, an stinging nettles that are almost as bad, so it isn't all fun and games ;o)
1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
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| Re: Something just happened I have never seen before.... [message #263626 is a reply to message #263622] |
Mon, 06 October 2014 21:45 |
Keith V
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kerry pinkerton wrote on Mon, 06 October 2014 20:20Otterwan wrote on Mon, 06 October 2014 20:15You shouldn't ever need to fog your coach here. The cold winters and mild summers keep the bugs down. Virtually no flea or and problems. I wouldn't fog the coach unless you see something other than the flies.
We have brown recluse spiders that are endemic to this part of the country. You don't want to share space with them. Ants too. It's amazing how fast ants can invade a space. We have enough bugs that killing a few 'good ones' isn't a concern to me.
one upside to living so far north is fewer crazy bugs. Just mosquitoes and ticks.
Though my cousin did get bit by a brown recluse that came up on a pallet.. not fun!
Keith Vasilakes
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| Re: Something just happened I have never seen before.... [message #263627 is a reply to message #263626] |
Mon, 06 October 2014 21:48 |
lotsofspareparts
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Keith V wrote on Mon, 06 October 2014 19:45kerry pinkerton wrote on Mon, 06 October 2014 20:20Otterwan wrote on Mon, 06 October 2014 20:15You shouldn't ever need to fog your coach here. The cold winters and mild summers keep the bugs down. Virtually no flea or and problems. I wouldn't fog the coach unless you see something other than the flies.
We have brown recluse spiders that are endemic to this part of the country. You don't want to share space with them. Ants too. It's amazing how fast ants can invade a space. We have enough bugs that killing a few 'good ones' isn't a concern to me.
one upside to living so far north is fewer crazy bugs. Just mosquitoes and ticks.
Though my cousin did get bit by a brown recluse that came up on a pallet.. not fun!
We have a wood burning stove, we don't bring wood into the house without gloves on. Not because of the Recluse, but of the more common Hobo Spider we have here in NW Washington.
Better safe than bitten.
Jared
Jared & Tina Lazaron + 14yr old Daughter.....
77 Eleganza II "Recherché".....
73 Canyon Lands 230 "Elephant"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Something just happened I have never seen before.... [message #263629 is a reply to message #263628] |
Mon, 06 October 2014 22:03 |
Otterwan
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We do get the occasional hibernating hornet that comes in on some firewood. A few hours in a nice warm house and they wake up. So suddenly in mid December you have a groggy, angry hornet bouncing off the walls.
1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
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| Re: [GMCnet] Something just happened I have never seen before.... [message #263676 is a reply to message #263622] |
Tue, 07 October 2014 08:27 |
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Kerry,
I got bitten by one last year and thought it was a boil until I had Helen look at the spot and describe it to me. She noted that it
was a read spot with a black center. I knew enough to realize THAT was not a boil so off I went to the local clinic. The doctor took
one look at it and told me what it was. He asked when it happened and I noted I think Thursday, he noted I was lucky to come in
after only a couple of days as a brown recluse bite can develop into something really NASTY!
Having said that we've got a spider Downunder called the Funnel Web Spider, their bite will KILL you!
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
USAussie - Downunder
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Kerry Pinkerton
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Something just happened I have never seen before....
Otterwan wrote on Mon, 06 October 2014 20:15
> You shouldn't ever need to fog your coach here. The cold winters and mild summers keep the bugs down. Virtually no flea or and
problems. I
> wouldn't fog the coach unless you see something other than the flies.
We have brown recluse spiders that are endemic to this part of the country. You don't want to share space with them. Ants too.
It's amazing how
fast ants can invade a space. We have enough bugs that killing a few 'good ones' isn't a concern to me.
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North Alabama, near Huntsville,
77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny also a 76 Eleganza to be re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] Something just happened I have never seen before.... [message #263681 is a reply to message #263676] |
Tue, 07 October 2014 08:58 |
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Contrary to popular belief we do have the Brown Recluse here in Michigan.
JR Wright
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75 Avion
Michigan
On Oct 7, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> Kerry,
>
> I got bitten by one last year and thought it was a boil until I had Helen look at the spot and describe it to me. She noted that it
> was a read spot with a black center. I knew enough to realize THAT was not a boil so off I went to the local clinic. The doctor took
> one look at it and told me what it was. He asked when it happened and I noted I think Thursday, he noted I was lucky to come in
> after only a couple of days as a brown recluse bite can develop into something really NASTY!
>
> Having said that we've got a spider Downunder called the Funnel Web Spider, their bite will KILL you!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> USAussie - Downunder
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Kerry Pinkerton
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 8:21 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Something just happened I have never seen before....
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> Otterwan wrote on Mon, 06 October 2014 20:15
>> You shouldn't ever need to fog your coach here. The cold winters and mild summers keep the bugs down. Virtually no flea or and
> problems. I
>> wouldn't fog the coach unless you see something other than the flies.
>
>
> We have brown recluse spiders that are endemic to this part of the country. You don't want to share space with them. Ants too.
> It's amazing how
> fast ants can invade a space. We have enough bugs that killing a few 'good ones' isn't a concern to me.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
>
> 77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny also a 76 Eleganza to be re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] Something just happened I have never seen before.... [message #263687 is a reply to message #263676] |
Tue, 07 October 2014 11:04 |
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IIRC, the "black spot" is DEAD flesh and it will enlarge VERY rapidly without treatment!
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> From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 08:27:01 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Something just happened I have never seen before....
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> Kerry,
>
> I got bitten by one last year and thought it was a boil until I had Helen look at the spot and describe it to me. She noted that it
> was a read spot with a black center. I knew enough to realize THAT was not a boil so off I went to the local clinic. The doctor took
> one look at it and told me what it was. He asked when it happened and I noted I think Thursday, he noted I was lucky to come in
> after only a couple of days as a brown recluse bite can develop into something really NASTY!
>
> Having said that we've got a spider Downunder called the Funnel Web Spider, their bite will KILL you!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> USAussie - Downunder
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>
>>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Kerry Pinkerton
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 8:21 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Something just happened I have never seen before....
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>> Otterwan wrote on Mon, 06 October 2014 20:15
>> You shouldn't ever need to fog your coach here. The cold winters and mild summers keep the bugs down. Virtually no flea or and
> problems. I
>> wouldn't fog the coach unless you see something other than the flies.
>
>
> We have brown recluse spiders that are endemic to this part of the country. You don't want to share space with them. Ants too.
> It's amazing how
> fast ants can invade a space. We have enough bugs that killing a few 'good ones' isn't a concern to me.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
>
> 77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny also a 76 Eleganza to be re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] Something just happened I have never seen before.... [message #263689 is a reply to message #263687] |
Tue, 07 October 2014 11:36 |
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Rob,
> [..]
> Having said that we've got a spider Downunder called the Funnel Web Spider, their bite will KILL you!
> [..]
is there anything down under that does NOT kill you?! I think, Australia
must have the most dense population of lethal animals in the world.
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