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50 amp RV plug [message #256738] Sun, 27 July 2014 17:50 Go to next message
lqqkatjon is currently offline  lqqkatjon   United States
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OK, I have a camco RV plug on the end of my cord.

http://www.amazon.com/Camco-55255-PowerGrip-Replacement-Plug/dp/B000PGVZ30/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406500793&sr=8-1&keywords=50+amp+rv+plu g

even though I like the function of it, the damn thing falls apart every couple month's. and I have a short, and I have to pull it apart and reconnect the wires inside. the stress reliever on the end just does not hold super tight.

I am not interested in downsizing, because I run both roof airs all the time, and I have a nice 50 amp outlet by the garage I plug into.

I am thinking of filling that camco thing with some epoxy. any other thoughts of how to have a more "factory solid" end to the cord?
or what epoxy I should use that will not eat the plastic, or corrode the copper, or be conductive at all?

the one's on my extra extension cord you can tell are molded, not assembled, and will not come loose.

I have thought using leveton, or other more brand name electrical plug, but I do like the handle on the camco.



Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
Re: [GMCnet] 50 amp RV plug [message #256777 is a reply to message #256738] Sun, 27 July 2014 21:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have two power cables that have that plug. Usually, they come with an insert for the strain relief that will really clamp down on a properly sized 50 Amp cable (at least 3 #6 and 1 #8 conductor).

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> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 16:50:21 -0600
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: lqqkatjon@gmail.com
> Subject: [GMCnet] 50 amp RV plug
>
> OK, I have a camco RV plug on the end of my cord.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Camco-55255-PowerGrip-Replacement-Plug/dp/B000PGVZ30/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406500793&sr=8-1&keywords=50+amp+rv+plu g
>
> even though I like the function of it, the damn thing falls apart every couple month's. and I have a short, and I have to pull it apart and
> reconnect the wires inside. the stress reliever on the end just does not hold super tight.
>
> I am not interested in downsizing, because I run both roof airs all the time, and I have a nice 50 amp outlet by the garage I plug into.
>
> I am thinking of filling that camco thing with some epoxy. any other thoughts of how to have a more "factory solid" end to the cord?
> or what epoxy I should use that will not eat the plastic, or corrode the copper, or be conductive at all?
>
> the one's on my extra extension cord you can tell are molded, not assembled, and will not come loose.
>
> I have thought using leveton, or other more brand name electrical plug, but I do like the handle on the camco.
>
>
> --
> 75 palm beach
> St. Cloud, MN
> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/

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Re: 50 amp RV plug [message #256778 is a reply to message #256738] Sun, 27 July 2014 22:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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Dang Jon, I was looking at those cause they look so beefy

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Re: 50 amp RV plug [message #256782 is a reply to message #256738] Sun, 27 July 2014 22:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jerry Sitzlar is currently offline  Jerry Sitzlar   United States
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My Eleganza's PO had been running with the ground pin completely missing on the 50A cord. I also wanted the OEM style cable and plug so I bit the bullet and installed a new 50A cord with plug. The cost didn't bother me as much as rasslin that python into the hole and hooking it into the breaker box located in a panel over one of the twin beds in back. Then I had to persuade that new animal to
learn the proper way to lay inside it's storage compartment. I think if I had to do it again I'd go for the Camco plug or suitable sub.


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Re: 50 amp RV plug [message #256783 is a reply to message #256738] Sun, 27 July 2014 22:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jon, I have the same Camco plug and I have had only one problem with it. One of the screw anchors broke, the one at the front, nearest the ground prong, and it made it difficult to pull out of the outlet. I got one of these: http://www.coilnwrap.com/products/PLUG-DOGS-50-Amp-4-prong.html It takes a lot of the stress off of the handle and the rest of the plastic plug.

I also made up an extension cord with male and female Leviton plugs on each end. I leave the male end plugged in (inside the garage) all the time, so I don't have to worry about the difficulty of unplugging it, but one of those 'Plug Dogs' would help with that as well.

An alternative to filling the Camco plug with epoxy would be to pump it full of silicone RTV. That should keep things in place too.


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Re: 50 amp RV plug [message #256825 is a reply to message #256738] Mon, 28 July 2014 08:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Carl.... that pull dog looks like quite the deal.

I think if the jacket on my current cord, was a few mills thicker I would not have the problem. Last time I tore it all down, to try to bullet proof it, I wrapped a bunch of 88t electrical tape on the end to make it thinker. Over this past summer, it has worked its way out of the plug, and has caused I think it to pull the wires loose.

I heard an arc when I plugged it in yesterday, so I quickly unplugged it, said a few words, and am now putting my thoughts together to bullet proof that plug.

The issue I have is after I wrangle mine into the side compartment.(I have a stock palm beach), and plug it into the generator outlet, that bit really strains on where the cord enters the plug.

I think I am going to take the time to solder the wires to the metal tabs, after I screw them tight. either put some RTV, or I woke up and remembered I work in Telecom, and there is a simple epoxy we use to fill underground splice enclosures. I think those two items, and making sure I take the time to really get the cord up into the plug.

If I have problems after that, I will probably go to a leviton plug, with that cord puller carl listed. one thing about the leviton plugs over the Camco, is length. I think the camco is maybe 1" longer the the leviton. that might not quite stress cord so much when i plug into the generator outlet.

Keith V- I do not think your cord system has that problem in the cord storage to the generator plug. you should have good service with that camco plug.




Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
Re: 50 amp RV plug [message #256833 is a reply to message #256825] Mon, 28 July 2014 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tape will almost always creep the way you describe. I have had better luck with shrink tube as it doesn't have the adhesive to act as a lubricant.

As far as wrestling the snake into the compartment and then getting it plugged in: I found that with all the cable out, start coiling it clockwise against the front wall of the compartment. When finished it gives a bit more room and a better approach angle of the cable and plug to the receptacle.


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Re: [GMCnet] 50 amp RV plug [message #256845 is a reply to message #256825] Mon, 28 July 2014 09:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The power cord connector on my one-time Palm Beach had gone bad.

I cut the whole thing off, leaving just 2 - 2.5 feet in the coach. I put a new "dog-bone" Camco plug on the remainder that is EASY to insert into the genset outlet. I then cut off the defective original male plug and put new Camco male and female connectors on what was left of the original power cable to build an EXTENSION cable.

PRESTO! I lost only about a foot or two of overall effective length of the cable. Since then, I have found TWO 35' extension cables at serious discounts on eBay and now have a capability of around 90' total reach and storage is much more available.

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> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 07:06:54 -0600
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: lqqkatjon@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 50 amp RV plug
>
> Thanks Carl.... that pull dog looks like quite the deal.
>
> I think if the jacket on my current cord, was a few mills thicker I would not have the problem. Last time I tore it all down, to try to bullet proof
> it, I wrapped a bunch of 88t electrical tape on the end to make it thinker. Over this past summer, it has worked its way out of the plug, and has
> caused I think it to pull the wires loose.
>
> I heard an arc when I plugged it in yesterday, so I quickly unplugged it, said a few words, and am now putting my thoughts together to bullet proof
> that plug.
>
> The issue I have is after I wrangle mine into the side compartment.(I have a stock palm beach), and plug it into the generator outlet, that bit
> really strains on where the cord enters the plug.
>
> I think I am going to take the time to solder the wires to the metal tabs, after I screw them tight. either put some RTV, or I woke up and
> remembered I work in Telecom, and there is a simple epoxy we use to fill underground splice enclosures. I think those two items, and making sure I
> take the time to really get the cord up into the plug.
>
> If I have problems after that, I will probably go to a leviton plug, with that cord puller carl listed. one thing about the leviton plugs over the
> Camco, is length. I think the camco is maybe 1" longer the the leviton. that might not quite stress cord so much when i plug into the generator
> outlet.
>
> Keith V- I do not think your cord system has that problem in the cord storage to the generator plug. you should have good service with that camco
> plug.
>
>
>
> --
> 75 palm beach
> St. Cloud, MN
> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/

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Re: 50 amp RV plug [message #256911 is a reply to message #256738] Mon, 28 July 2014 16:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jon,

Hate to say it but that 50 amp Camco plug is a piece of crap (but just my opinion).
looks nice but the wire clamps don't hold for more than 2 months or so. Want to
guess how I know? Took me a year to catch on. Replaced it with a 50 amp plug
from Home Depot. It's been working now for over a year now. A 10 minute fix.
Only reason that it took over 10 minutes is I'm no electrician.

jim galbavy
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Lake Mary, FL
Re: 50 amp RV plug [message #256917 is a reply to message #256738] Mon, 28 July 2014 17:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They all suck unless they are molded. You could buy a molded 50A male to 30A female adapter ($20, I have one) and cut the female end off and splice it in a utility box with a suitable terminal block, or replace it completely by cutting off the female end of a 50A extension cord and hardwiring it in.

I don't miss the 50A firehose. I have a 30A on my trailer. If I had to add a second AC, I'd just add a second 20A cord just for that or a second 30A with an adapter or a good 20A plug that can handle 10AWG wire, which I have yet to find...


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Re: [GMCnet] 50 amp RV plug [message #256990 is a reply to message #256917] Tue, 29 July 2014 00:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,

I'm working with a Mate that worked in the electrical field to find a potting compound for the Camco Plugs which will have the net
effect of turning them into a molded plug. Stay tuned to this channel.

I like the 50 amp cable that Avion put on my GMC because I have a second A/C and I DON'T have to have separate cord!

OK, Chris now you get to make a smart ass remark. ;-)

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AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428

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From: Chris Choffat

They all suck unless they are molded. You could buy a molded 50A male to 30A female adapter ($20, I have one) and cut the female end
off and splice it in a utility box with a suitable terminal block, or replace it completely by cutting off the female end of a 50A
extension cord and hardwiring it in.

I don't miss the 50A firehose. I have a 30A on my trailer. If I had to add a second AC, I'd just add a second 20A cord just for that
or a second 30A with an adapter or a good 20A plug that can handle 10AWG wire, which I have yet to find...
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Re: 50 amp RV plug [message #257024 is a reply to message #256738] Tue, 29 July 2014 09:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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can't wait to hear what you come up with!

I went to two big box home improvement stores, and I was not impressed with their 50 amp cord end plugs. one pass and seymore, and a leviton. they were just flimsy looking. mostly made for range hood, but universal for our application as well. I am going to go talk to my industrial electrical supplier, they love when a low voltage guy comes in asking about that stuff.

I was looking for epoxies, and I need to go over to my warehouse to get the epoxy out of buried splice stuff. but I did check a versachem plastic epoxy I had in my garage I got from auto store, and the spec sheet says do not use on copper. so that one is out.


I do like that camco plug shape. so what I am hoping to do, is to solder the wires to the blades. that will hopefully fix the wires coming loose from those. and do the shrink wrap on the cable to help the stain relief. then fill it with epoxy. then I should really have a "molded" type factory cord.

will see what I come up with for some more industrial plug.


Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
Re: 50 amp RV plug [message #257026 is a reply to message #257024] Tue, 29 July 2014 09:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I did a lot of electrical potting in a previous job. There are a lot of really good 2 part polyurethanes and epoxies that will turn your plug into a solid block never to move again.
I don't know where to get this stuff retail, but I would look at Mc Master Carr or Graingers for potting compounds


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Re: [GMCnet] 50 amp RV plug [message #257028 is a reply to message #257026] Tue, 29 July 2014 09:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can buy potting compound at digikey.com, part number 473-1083-ND. It is not cheap at $42.14 for 350 ml, that is more than a
third of a quart. Should be enough for several plugs, maybe 10.

Dave Mumert
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>
> I did a lot of electrical potting in a previous job. There are a lot of really good 2 part polyurethanes and epoxies that will
turn your plug
> into a solid block never to move again.
> I don't know where to get this stuff retail, but I would look at Mc Master Carr or Graingers for potting compounds
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Re: 50 amp RV plug [message #257032 is a reply to message #256738] Tue, 29 July 2014 09:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well, my industrial electrician friend, said there are some better plugs out there, but nothing that would have the handle. and they are only slightly better. loose plugs keeps him in business.

He recommended me to solder the wires in place to keep them from coming loose, and then filling with epoxy. He said he would use just about any epoxy as long as it was not like a jb weld metal epoxy.

However the good friend that he is, he is going to bring me some silver solder, and we are going to silver solder the wires to the lugs, so they will never come loose. and I have a call out to my connection at digikey, to see what his employee price is on that potting compound. usually 50%. and just so happens he will be driving down on thursday with some other digikey stuff for me.

so if someone needs to get towed by my GMC, I should be able to use my plug as an anchor point when I am done.


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Re: 50 amp RV plug [message #257034 is a reply to message #256738] Tue, 29 July 2014 10:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lqqkatjon wrote on Sun, 27 July 2014 17:50
OK, I have a camco RV plug on the end of my cord.

http://www.amazon.com/Camco-55255-PowerGrip-Replacement-Plug/dp/B000PGVZ30/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406500793&sr=8-1&keywords=50+amp+rv+plu g

even though I like the function of it, the damn thing falls apart every couple month's. and I have a short, and I have to pull it apart and reconnect the wires inside. the stress reliever on the end just does not hold super tight.

I am not interested in downsizing, because I run both roof airs all the time, and I have a nice 50 amp outlet by the garage I plug into.

I am thinking of filling that camco thing with some epoxy. any other thoughts of how to have a more "factory solid" end to the cord?
or what epoxy I should use that will not eat the plastic, or corrode the copper, or be conductive at all?

the one's on my extra extension cord you can tell are molded, not assembled, and will not come loose.

I have thought using leveton, or other more brand name electrical plug, but I do like the handle on the camco.


We put on a Midwest brand plug which has held up well. The strain relief is a metal strap and the housing is made of zytel. Looks like this.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/power-level-valve-fitting/p55395-midwest-50-amp-plug.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/power-level-valve-fitting/p55396-midwest-50-amp-plug.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/power-level-valve-fitting/p55397-midwest-50-amp-plug.html
My cousin uses these at his mobile home park and they last.
HTH


Wally Anderson
Omaha NE
75 Glenbrook
Re: [GMCnet] 50 amp RV plug [message #257035 is a reply to message #257032] Tue, 29 July 2014 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Awesome!
It's always nice to have another towing source in MN!
😜

Rick

Rick&Tammy Drummond
Prior Lake MN
'74 (re)Painted Desert

On Jul 29, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Jon Roche wrote:

> well, my industrial electrician friend, said there are some better plugs out there, but nothing that would have the handle. and they are only
> slightly better. loose plugs keeps him in business.
>
> He recommended me to solder the wires in place to keep them from coming loose, and then filling with epoxy. He said he would use just about any epoxy
> as long as it was not like a jb weld metal epoxy.
>
> However the good friend that he is, he is going to bring me some silver solder, and we are going to silver solder the wires to the lugs, so they
> will never come loose. and I have a call out to my connection at digikey, to see what his employee price is on that potting compound. usually 50%.
> and just so happens he will be driving down on thursday with some other digikey stuff for me.
>
> so if someone needs to get towed by my GMC, I should be able to use my plug as an anchor point when I am done.
> --
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> St. Cloud, MN
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Re: 50 amp RV plug [message #257524 is a reply to message #256738] Sat, 02 August 2014 10:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wally - that midwest one looks like to be the one to get. I did not find any locally, and did not do alot of searching, but they seem to fetch a higher price, but you must get what you pay for. Just by the pictures I can see how the wires attach is much superior engineering then what I have seen at home depot, menards, and the camco plug.


but I stubborn as I can be sometimes, I have my camco plug, and i like that handle. so below is what I learned the past 24 hours:

Soldering the wires is probably the best thing to do, to assure that plug will not fall apart. that would be easy to do, and probably solve most issues with that plug. I had the assistance of an electrician, he came over with the silver solder, we fired up the cutting torch. touched the prongs with the flame for a second, then the silver rod, and presto, the wires were essentially welded to the prongs.

the suggestion of using heat shrink on the wire to help the strain relief was a good one. that worked very well. It is a trick to fine the correct size, but luckily two things I am not short on with my profession is zip ties and heat shrink.


the electrical potting compound product listed above from Digikey part # 473-1083-ND. was probably not the stuff to use. I am glad I did not pay full price. (about 1/2 list). It was and still is a mess. this epoxy compound, is slow setting (24 hours), and even over night, it was still somewhat fluid. so I have a mess to clean up. and not sure if there is any epoxy left in the plug that did not fine a crack to escape. even when mixed, it has a very thin consistany, even over an hour after mixing. good for getting into all electrical crevis. not good on an RV plug with 4 prongs out the bottom, and a cord out the other end, and is split right down the middle.


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Re: [GMCnet] 50 amp RV plug [message #257526 is a reply to message #257524] Sat, 02 August 2014 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was in an Ace Hardware yesterday and happened to walk by their RV section and saw some very nice replacement plugs for both 30 and 50 amp. They were quite sturdy and looked to me like excellent replacement. Some also had a built in handle.

Emery Stora
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Frederick, CO

On Aug 2, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Jon Roche wrote:

> Wally - that midwest one looks like to be the one to get. I did not find any locally, and did not do alot of searching, but they seem to fetch a
> higher price, but you must get what you pay for. Just by the pictures I can see how the wires attach is much superior engineering then what I have
> seen at home depot, menards, and the camco plug.
>
>
> but I stubborn as I can be sometimes, I have my camco plug, and i like that handle. so below is what I learned the past 24 hours:
>
> Soldering the wires is probably the best thing to do, to assure that plug will not fall apart. that would be easy to do, and probably solve most
> issues with that plug. I had the assistance of an electrician, he came over with the silver solder, we fired up the cutting torch. touched the
> prongs with the flame for a second, then the silver rod, and presto, the wires were essentially welded to the prongs.
>
> the suggestion of using heat shrink on the wire to help the strain relief was a good one. that worked very well. It is a trick to fine the correct
> size, but luckily two things I am not short on with my profession is zip ties and heat shrink.
>
>
> the electrical potting compound product listed above from Digikey part # 473-1083-ND. was probably not the stuff to use. I am glad I did not pay
> full price. (about 1/2 list). It was and still is a mess. this epoxy compound, is slow setting (24 hours), and even over night, it was still
> somewhat fluid. so I have a mess to clean up. and not sure if there is any epoxy left in the plug that did not fine a crack to escape. even
> when mixed, it has a very thin consistany, even over an hour after mixing. good for getting into all electrical crevis. not good on an RV plug with
> 4 prongs out the bottom, and a cord out the other end, and is split right down the middle.
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Re: 50 amp RV plug [message #257528 is a reply to message #257524] Sat, 02 August 2014 11:14 Go to previous message
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lqqkatjon wrote on Sat, 02 August 2014 10:25
Wally - that midwest one looks like to be the one to get. I did not find any locally, and did not do alot of searching, but they seem to fetch a higher price, but you must get what you pay for. Just by the pictures I can see how the wires attach is much superior engineering then what I have seen at home depot, menards, and the camco plug.


but I stubborn as I can be sometimes, I have my camco plug, and i like that handle. so below is what I learned the past 24 hours:

Soldering the wires is probably the best thing to do, to assure that plug will not fall apart. that would be easy to do, and probably solve most issues with that plug. I had the assistance of an electrician, he came over with the silver solder, we fired up the cutting torch. touched the prongs with the flame for a second, then the silver rod, and presto, the wires were essentially welded to the prongs.

the suggestion of using heat shrink on the wire to help the strain relief was a good one. that worked very well. It is a trick to fine the correct size, but luckily two things I am not short on with my profession is zip ties and heat shrink.


the electrical potting compound product listed above from Digikey part # 473-1083-ND. was probably not the stuff to use. I am glad I did not pay full price. (about 1/2 list). It was and still is a mess. this epoxy compound, is slow setting (24 hours), and even over night, it was still somewhat fluid. so I have a mess to clean up. and not sure if there is any epoxy left in the plug that did not fine a crack to escape. even when mixed, it has a very thin consistany, even over an hour after mixing. good for getting into all electrical crevis. not good on an RV plug with 4 prongs out the bottom, and a cord out the other end, and is split right down the middle.

Heck I'd try solder and potting too. It should work. I thought about that camco plug with the handle and figured on getting one if this Midwest one gave out or got to hard to deal with. I did just get a strap handle like Carl S posted, thanks Carl.


Wally Anderson
Omaha NE
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