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What Did I Find in the Bottom of My Oil Pan [message #248847] Tue, 29 April 2014 20:13 Go to next message
Bruce Hart is currently offline  Bruce Hart   United States
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Coming back from Montgomery Our motor home spun a main bearing.
Jim brown had a rebuilt engine in his collection of parts. I test ran the engine on a motor stand, everything was ok except the new fan clutch didn't engage and the temperature got too hot so I shut it off after 5 minutes of run time. I wasn't sure about my temp gauge as it didn't read the same as an IR probe that I had. Ran again and shut down after another seven minutes due to overheating. Next morning I started it up again with a vacuum gauge and set the timing, it was a bit too advanced and I was able to run for 15 minutes before overheating.
With the run time that I had I found a couple of oil leaks, one on the back China Wall and another on the back side of the oil pan.
Removed intake and found that it had a turkey tray and no block offs. Ordered the Mondello block off plates and gasket. Removed oil pan and two push nuts were in the bottom of the pan. Fits a 5/16" shaft and .540 O/D.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#push-nuts/=rr5mvj

Where did they come from? I won't think an engine builder would use such a cheap fastener. Did they originate out of the inside of the motor. The motor does have roller lifters and double timing chain sprocket.

Sorry unable to take any pictures ans our camera broke on our trip to Montgomery.





Bruce Hart 1976 Palm Beach 1977 28' Kingsley La Grange, Wyoming

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Re: What Did I Find in the Bottom of My Oil Pan [message #248860 is a reply to message #248847] Tue, 29 April 2014 21:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wally is currently offline  wally   United States
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Bruce Hart wrote on Tue, 29 April 2014 20:13

Coming back from Montgomery Our motor home spun a main bearing.
Jim brown had a rebuilt engine in his collection of parts. I test ran the engine on a motor stand, everything was ok except the new fan clutch didn't engage and the temperature got too hot so I shut it off after 5 minutes of run time. I wasn't sure about my temp gauge as it didn't read the same as an IR probe that I had. Ran again and shut down after another seven minutes due to overheating. Next morning I started it up again with a vacuum gauge and set the timing, it was a bit too advanced and I was able to run for 15 minutes before overheating.
With the run time that I had I found a couple of oil leaks, one on the back China Wall and another on the back side of the oil pan.
Removed intake and found that it had a turkey tray and no block offs. Ordered the Mondello block off plates and gasket. Removed oil pan and two push nuts were in the bottom of the pan. Fits a 5/16" shaft and .540 O/D.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#push-nuts/=rr5mvj

Where did they come from? I won't think an engine builder would use such a cheap fastener. Did they originate out of the inside of the motor. The motor does have roller lifters and double timing chain sprocket.

Sorry unable to take any pictures ans our camera broke on our trip to Montgomery.





There are push nuts like pictured on the oil pump drive shaft. I think the purpose is to keep the hex shaft in the pump if the distributor is pulled up and out. Attached is an image link to a Melling pump test, you can see the push nut on the hex shaft.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/melling-22fhv-oil-pump-pressure/p18204.html

HTH


Wally Anderson
Omaha NE
75 Glenbrook

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Re: What Did I Find in the Bottom of My Oil Pan [message #248870 is a reply to message #248860] Wed, 30 April 2014 07:07 Go to previous message
Bruce Hart is currently offline  Bruce Hart   United States
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Thanks Wally that makes perfect sense. When I had pulled out my distributor the oil pump drive shaft came out with it.

Bruce Hart 1976 Palm Beach 1977 28' Kingsley La Grange, Wyoming
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