| Electrically Dead [message #221039] |
Tue, 03 September 2013 14:50  |
jimtze
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The battery that I installed last August was giving me trouble so I replaced it with the identical model (warranty). When I turned on the ignition the fan started and the indicator lights in the dash came on. When I tried to start, the solenoid clicked and everything went dead. I initially installed in the dark so I removed the battery. The battery tested fine for voltage. Today was my first opportunity to try installing in the daylight and the same thing happened. I'm not quite sure where to start looking for the problem. Could the problem be at the starter?
Jim Bratvold
Victoria, BC
76 Eleganza ll
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| Re: [GMCnet] Electrically Dead [message #221041 is a reply to message #221039] |
Tue, 03 September 2013 14:57  |
Jeff Marten
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Make sure all the cable ends are tight. Sounds like one isn't.
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: jimtze@hotmail.com
> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 14:50:53 -0500
> Subject: [GMCnet] Electrically Dead
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> The battery that I installed last August was giving me trouble so I replaced it with the identical model (warranty). When I turned on the ignition the fan started and the indicator lights in the dash came on. When I tried to start, the solenoid clicked and everything went dead. I initially installed in the dark so I removed the battery. The battery tested fine for voltage. Today was my first opportunity to try installing in the daylight and the same thing happened. I'm not quite sure where to start looking for the problem. Could the problem be at the starter?
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> Jim Bratvold
> Victoria, BC
> 76 Eleganza ll
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| Re: [GMCnet] Electrically Dead [message #221043 is a reply to message #221041] |
Tue, 03 September 2013 15:09 |
jtblank
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Check all the connections... you got voltage but no amperage...if all connections are good then have battery load tested.
John Blankenship
'76 Palm Beach
Tulare, CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Electrically Dead [message #221045 is a reply to message #221044] |
Tue, 03 September 2013 15:25 |
tphipps
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Remove and shiny clean the ground to the block. Then, reinstall it and apply anti-corrosion coating to the ground connection. Bad grounds do very strange things.
Tom, MS II
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| Re: Electrically Dead [message #221057 is a reply to message #221039] |
Tue, 03 September 2013 16:40 |
jimtze
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Of course! Rechecked the connections that I thought I had checked and double checked. Loose ground. Embarrassingly simple.
Thanks gentlemen!
Jim Bratvold
Victoria, BC
76 Eleganza ll
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| Re: [GMCnet] Electrically Dead [message #221069 is a reply to message #221068] |
Tue, 03 September 2013 18:00 |
Mr ERFisher
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wire it this way , and never touch your boost switch again
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gene
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 3:57 PM, dwayne jacobson
<dwayne.jacobson@gmail.com>wrote:
> Jim; I have the same problem with our coach - all my cables are new as
> well as the solenoid. I read recently an article about Starter Solenoid
> Wiring on the net. Will find it and send you the link. I think that is
> where our problem is.
> I have to start our coach using the booster switch. Even tried to jump
> start the coach first to the starter battery - no go, then back to the aux
> battery and using the booster switch it started.
> Dwayne Jacobson
> 77 Kingsley
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> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Jim Bratvold <jimtze@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > The battery that I installed last August was giving me trouble so I
> > replaced it with the identical model (warranty). When I turned on the
> > ignition the fan started and the indicator lights in the dash came on.
> When
> > I tried to start, the solenoid clicked and everything went dead. I
> > initially installed in the dark so I removed the battery. The battery
> > tested fine for voltage. Today was my first opportunity to try installing
> > in the daylight and the same thing happened. I'm not quite sure where to
> > start looking for the problem. Could the problem be at the starter?
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> > Jim Bratvold
> > Victoria, BC
> > 76 Eleganza ll
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| Re: Electrically Dead [message #221089 is a reply to message #221039] |
Tue, 03 September 2013 21:13 |
jimtze
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The problem I had was that the battery and cables are of the side connection type. The threads on the ground were somewhat compromised and they gave the appearance of being tight when they were actually not. I solved the problem by running a bottoming tap into each battery terminal and put each cable bolt into a die. Clean threads, problem solved. I don't know if I messed the threads up trying to install the battery in the dark or if they were already damaged. I will probably try to make the connection modification when we return from vacation. We will be leaving Sunday and returning about 10 October by way of Coos Bay.
The tap and die have proven very useful with this 37 year old coach.
Jim Bratvold
Victoria, BC
76 Eleganza ll
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| Re: [GMCnet] Electrically Dead [message #221113 is a reply to message #221039] |
Wed, 04 September 2013 09:01 |
jhbridges
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Sounds like a loose or dirty connection to the battery or starter, either plus or ground. If you or some PO has put "Get-by" clamp on ends on either or both battery cables, look there first and then replace those cables with molded on calmp cables.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
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On Tue, 9/3/13, Jim Bratvold <jimtze@hotmail.com> wrote:
Subject: [GMCnet] Electrically Dead
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Tuesday, September 3, 2013, 7:50 PM
The battery that I installed last August was giving me
trouble so I replaced it with the identical model
(warranty). When I turned on the ignition the fan started
and the indicator lights in the dash came on. When I tried
to start, the solenoid clicked and everything went dead. I
initially installed in the dark so I removed the battery.
The battery tested fine for voltage. Today was my first
opportunity to try installing in the daylight and the same
thing happened. I'm not quite sure where to start looking
for the problem. Could the problem be at the starter?
--
Jim Bratvold
Victoria, BC
76 Eleganza ll
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