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RichardPattee is currently offline  RichardPattee   Japan
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I know we don't post photos here in the interest of saving money for the host but wouldn't this forum be a lot more interesting and therefore better for the GMC Motorhome community if we could see photos of what each of us are doing?

How to threads would be much easier to understand and a lot simpler with a few pictures of what the person is doing or what a part looks like.

Road trip threads are always better with photos.

I own two GMCs at the moment and I don't check in here as often as I might if there were photos included. I think for the overall benefit of the community it would be better if we had a forum were we could post photos. What would it take to do this?

Any opinions on this?
Re: Photos [message #176883 is a reply to message #176878] Mon, 16 July 2012 06:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RichardPattee wrote on Mon, 16 July 2012 00:27

I know we don't post photos here in the interest of saving money for the host but wouldn't this forum be a lot more interesting and therefore better for the GMC Motorhome community if we could see photos of what each of us are doing?

How to threads would be much easier to understand and a lot simpler with a few pictures of what the person is doing or what a part looks like.

Road trip threads are always better with photos.

I own two GMCs at the moment and I don't check in here as often as I might if there were photos included. I think for the overall benefit of the community it would be better if we had a forum were we could post photos. What would it take to do this?

Any opinions on this?


Richard,

Many of our GMCnet members are email users only -- I don't think receiving the volume of messages we generate daily with photos included would work too well for them.

The preferred methond on using photos is via the GMCMHphoto site...

http://gmcmhphotos.com/photos/

Then simply add a link in your message.

Using this added site, all how-to photos and general photos are hosted in a secure, searchable manner. Much easier than searching the forum or forum messages to find the topic and hope for photos.

Dennis


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Re: Photos [message #176889 is a reply to message #176878] Mon, 16 July 2012 07:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RichardPattee wrote on Mon, 16 July 2012 01:27

I know we don't post photos here in the interest of saving money for the host but wouldn't this forum be a lot more interesting and therefore better for the GMC Motorhome community if we could see photos of what each of us are doing?

How to threads would be much easier to understand and a lot simpler with a few pictures of what the person is doing or what a part looks like.

Road trip threads are always better with photos.

I own two GMCs at the moment and I don't check in here as often as I might if there were photos included. I think for the overall benefit of the community it would be better if we had a forum were we could post photos. What would it take to do this?

Any opinions on this?

Richard,

It isn't really the cost.

I' guessing the you have a broadband connection and read the forum...
Well, You may not believe this, but some of our readers are e-mail only and with DUN connections. If you add pictures, they will be cut to a crawl and if they are buying limited connection time the cost could be astronomical.

Many of the worthwhile write-ups get posted as an assembly on chapter sites. Some other get done as complete postings on the picture site.

When traveling (before I got the smartphone to tether) it would sometimes happen that the best I could get was an overloaded 802.11b connection. This was already painfully slow, but very bad when a member included a picture as part of his sig file. I had to delete his message(s) before I could get and read the others.

The very best thing to do (IMNSO), is to put pictures on the picture site with clear labels and captions so the search can find the pictures later. This is much easier than searching the messages. If you need to include more text, put a page or two of *.pdf in there.

Matt


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Re: Photos [message #176908 is a reply to message #176889] Mon, 16 July 2012 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If I had a guess, I'd say it is a question of cost. The program used here is straight out of the '90s. I've gotten used to it, but one only has to go onto other motorhome sites -
http://goo.gl/nYoGx
for example to see much easier to follow formats. Pictures are attached right to the message and messages are organized by topic.

I'm just a lurker, but the software is difficult for me.


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'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
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Re: [GMCnet] Photos [message #176915 is a reply to message #176889] Mon, 16 July 2012 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am perfectly happy with the current arrangement, but If Richard would
like to send me a check each month so I can get the bandwidth to fit his
plan that would be OK also. The current scheme has worked pretty well
(IMHO) for many years, and Billy's PhotoSite is a marvel of information.
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Greeley, CO
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TZE-063V100731(under renovation)
On Mon, 2012-07-16 at 07:40 -0500, Matt Colie wrote:

>
> RichardPattee wrote on Mon, 16 July 2012 01:27
> > I know we don't post photos here in the interest of saving money for the host

<SNIP>

> > Any opinions on this?
> Richard,
>
> It isn't really the cost.
>
> I' guessing the you have a broadband connection and read the forum...
> Well, You may not believe this, but some of our readers are e-mail only and with DUN connections.


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Re: [GMCnet] Photos [message #176916 is a reply to message #176915] Mon, 16 July 2012 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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These question should be directed towards Patrick as he own and runs
the GMCnet.

JR Wright

On Jul 16, 2012, at 1:39 PM, J Mills wrote:

> I am perfectly happy with the current arrangement, but If Richard
> would
> like to send me a check each month so I can get the bandwidth to fit
> his
> plan that would be OK also. The current scheme has worked pretty well
> (IMHO) for many years, and Billy's PhotoSite is a marvel of
> information.
> --
> Jim Mills KD0NPU
> Greeley, CO
> 1973 CanyonLands 260
> TZE-063V100731(under renovation)
> On Mon, 2012-07-16 at 07:40 -0500, Matt Colie wrote:
>
>>
>> RichardPattee wrote on Mon, 16 July 2012 01:27
>>> I know we don't post photos here in the interest of saving money
>>> for the host
>
> <SNIP>
>
>>> Any opinions on this?
>> Richard,
>>
>> It isn't really the cost.
>>
>> I' guessing the you have a broadband connection and read the forum...
>> Well, You may not believe this, but some of our readers are e-mail
>> only and with DUN connections.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Photos [message #176917 is a reply to message #176916] Mon, 16 July 2012 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If the list was changed to post pictures I would miss about two weeks of
postings each month when my bandwidth would be completely used up.
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Jim Mills KD0NPU
Greeley, CO
1973 CanyonLands 260
TZE-063V100731(under renovation)



On Mon, 2012-07-16 at 13:55 -0400, John Wright wrote:

> These question should be directed towards Patrick as he own and runs
> the GMCnet.
>
> JR Wright
>
> On Jul 16, 2012, at 1:39 PM, J Mills wrote:
>
> > I am perfectly happy with the current arrangement, but If Richard
> > would
> > like to send me a check each month so I can get the bandwidth to fit
> > his
> > plan that would be OK also. The current scheme has worked pretty well
> > (IMHO) for many years, and Billy's PhotoSite is a marvel of
> > information.
> > --
> > Jim Mills KD0NPU
> > Greeley, CO
> > 1973 CanyonLands 260
> > TZE-063V100731(under renovation)
> > On Mon, 2012-07-16 at 07:40 -0500, Matt Colie wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> RichardPattee wrote on Mon, 16 July 2012 01:27
> >>> I know we don't post photos here in the interest of saving money
> >>> for the host
> >
> > <SNIP>
> >
> >>> Any opinions on this?
> >> Richard,
> >>
> >> It isn't really the cost.
> >>
> >> I' guessing the you have a broadband connection and read the forum...
> >> Well, You may not believe this, but some of our readers are e-mail
> >> only and with DUN connections.
> >
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Re: Photos [message #176921 is a reply to message #176878] Mon, 16 July 2012 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How would I be able to contact Patrick ?
Just to say, thank you for his efforts.
I am truly enjoying his GMC.net forum !
G2... Smile


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Re: [GMCnet] Photos [message #176925 is a reply to message #176921] Mon, 16 July 2012 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All you have to do is leave him a message here on the net as he
follows the threads.

JR Wright
On Jul 16, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Glenn Gardner wrote:

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>
> How would I be able to contact Patrick ?
> Just to say, thank you for his efforts.
> I am truly enjoying his GMC.net forum !
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Re: Photos [message #176926 is a reply to message #176878] Mon, 16 July 2012 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OK then.
Patrick,
Thank you for having the GMC.net available.
I'll bet it is a lot of work on your part.
My wife & I are enjoying our GMC motorhome, and having all the information avalible through the GMC.net makes it that much better.
Sincerely,
Glenn Gardner... Smile


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Re: [GMCnet] Photos [message #176938 is a reply to message #176926] Mon, 16 July 2012 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Glenn, and other Newcomers,

You probably don't realize the exact arrangement here:

The "GMCNet <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org> was started back around 1997 by
Patrick Flowers and is still maintained by him, with the help of some
others.

A few years later, after the 'Net was well established, Eugene Mazzurana
opened the web-based "Phorum", which is an on-line mirror of the
email-based GMCNet:
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=52

That means Patrick and Eugene both deserve our sincere thanks and support.

Working together, they enable us all to communicate in the way we're most
comfortable and which matches our equipment. There are shortcomings to
each, but together it's a hard combination to beat. Personally, I find
that I have the advantages of both by using GMail, which provides threading
which is, IMHO, much better than that on the Phorum (it's not subject to
thread "hijacking").

HTH,

Ken "On GMCNet Since '98" H.
Americus, GA
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On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Glenn Gardner wrote:

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>
> OK then.
> Patrick,
> Thank you for having the GMC.net available.
> I'll bet it is a lot of work on your part.
> My wife & I are enjoying our GMC motorhome, and having all the information
> avalible through the GMC.net makes it that much better.
> Sincerely,
> Glenn Gardner... :)
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Re: Photos [message #177070 is a reply to message #176878] Tue, 17 July 2012 18:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the input. Most of that was interesting and informative.

Dennis S, it was actually your recent post that prompted me to start this thread. I wanted to wish you a good road trip and ask you to post photos. Then I remembered we weren't supposed to post them here. I just thought it would be more interesting to see your trip as it progressed and be able to comment on the individual photos as you posted them.

Yes, I have a broadband connection and I'm only on the forum. I think I was on the e-mail list a few years ago and quit that right away. I guess as much as some like their inbox full of random e-mail, I didn't. It just didn't work for me but I understand if it does work for you. I check the forum once or twice a week and if I see a topic that interests me I click on it.

I just think it would better serve the GMC and attract more interest if a curious individual, someone considering buying a GMC, found an interesting forum which included some pictures. One of the reasons that doesn't happen is because a few people are still on dial up?

I'm not complaining or ungrateful to those that take the time to make this happen. Just making a suggestion, asking for your opinion and wondering if we can improve things.

I almost never go to the photo site. There's no link to it on the forum site. I did go there today and it asks for a $20 minimum donation. How about doing that here? Would that work?

I agree the photo site is well organized and it's easy to view a string of photos but if you want to ask a question or interact with that photo you would need to come here and reference it. That's cumbersome.
Re: Photos [message #177239 is a reply to message #177070] Wed, 18 July 2012 21:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RichardPattee wrote on Tue, 17 July 2012 18:28

I almost never go to the photo site. There's no link to it on the forum site. I did go there today and it asks for a $20 minimum donation.


Donation is voluntary. Contribute what you think it is worth to you.

There are links to the photo site on the forum all the time. When someone posts a picture URL just click on it. I check the photo site daily. When I click on a picture link, after viewing the picture I click on HOME to see the latest postings to the photo site. The search function works fairly well. Better than trying to search the forum.

The last count I heard on email usage vs forum was 50/50. I think it's great that we can collect both user communities the way we do. It doubles up the response rate. Sure there are a few difficulties one way or the other but they are worth putting up with considering the benefits.


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Re: Photos [message #177359 is a reply to message #177070] Fri, 20 July 2012 05:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[quote title=RichardPattee wrote on Tue, 17 July 2012 18:28]
I almost never go to the photo site. There's no link to it on the forum site. I did go there today and it asks for a $20 minimum donation. How about doing that here? Would that work?

Steve, if you're going to quote me why not quote the entire paragraph? You're partial quote taken out of context makes it sound like I'm complaining about a $20 donation when I wasn't. In fact, I was suggesting making the forum better by making a donation to those that provide it so that we could view pictures on it and attract new people.
Re: Photos [message #177367 is a reply to message #177359] Fri, 20 July 2012 08:13 Go to previous message
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RichardPattee wrote on Fri, 20 July 2012 05:23

I almost never go to the photo site. There's no link to it on the forum site. I did go there today and it asks for a $20 minimum donation. How about doing that here? Would that work?

Steve, if you're going to quote me why not quote the entire paragraph? You're partial quote taken out of context makes it sound like I'm complaining about a $20 donation when I wasn't. In fact, I was suggesting making the forum better by making a donation to those that provide it so that we could view pictures on it and attract new people.


My apologies, no intent to indicate it was a complaint, just wanted to point out to everyone that a donation is completely voluntary. Snipping of previous post is just to reference the previous message as the email system does not make that reference as easy as the forum. The main point of my post was to help clarify why the existing system exists as it does, that is both NET and Forum, with the addition of the photosite.


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1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
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