| Water Tank Drain [message #149923] |
Thu, 17 November 2011 16:50  |
jimtze
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Location: Victoria, BC
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A bit of a dilemma. Trying to winterize and I can't find the drain valve as in the manual. This may be due to modifications made over the years. The fresh water pump has failed so pumping it out through the taps is not an immediate option. I have a Shur flo to replace the OEM. The immediate problem is how to switch pumps without having 40 gallons of cold water squirting me in the face and flooding the interior. Any suggestions?
Jim Bratvold
76 Eleganza
Victoria, BC
Jim Bratvold
Victoria, BC
76 Eleganza ll
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Tank Drain [message #149941 is a reply to message #149939] |
Thu, 17 November 2011 19:34  |
Kingsley Coach
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The real question is how fast can you take off the 'in' and 'out' hoses on
your water pump and get them installed on the New pump?
If everything is lined up and it goes well, you will only dampen the towel
you spread out on the floor...if you fumble, then you could be looking at a
few gallons being spilled.
When that is finished, screw it to the floor and do your wiring....
JWID
Mike in NS
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com>wrote:
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>> On my Eleganza ll, the drain valve is under the right rear seat in the
>> very back. Right next to the water tank and pump.
>> How's the weather there? I'm in North Carolina and have to head home soon.
>> DJ from Cobble Hill
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| Re: Water Tank Drain [message #149943 is a reply to message #149925] |
Thu, 17 November 2011 19:52 |
jimtze
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The Weather here is crappy right now. It may even be snowing up the Malahat. Seems a little early. I prefer the years we get no winter.
Jim Bratvold
Victoria, BC
76 Eleganza ll
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Tank Drain [message #149944 is a reply to message #149941] |
Thu, 17 November 2011 19:56 |
jimtze
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Thanks Micheal. That is the method I was contemplating. Maybe I should set up the video camera in case everything goes wrong and we could all at least have a laugh.
Jim Bratvold
Victoria, BC
76 Eleganza ll
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| Re: Water Tank Drain [message #149953 is a reply to message #149923] |
Thu, 17 November 2011 20:43 |
Adrien G.
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Jim,
If you have a hose from tank to pump, then use a vice-grip or clamp to pinch the hose. It may not fully stop the water, but it will give you time to do the work.
Even if the hose, plastic tube, or copper tube gets damaged. Replace it when the tank gets emptied.
Just a quick thought.
Adrien & Jenny Genesoto
75 Glenbrook (26-3) Mods LS3.70 FD / Reaction Sys / 80mm Front&Intermidiate / Hydroboost / 16" Tires / Frame Rebuild / Interior Rebuild
Yuba City,Ca. Text 530-nine-3-three-3-nine-nine-6
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| Re: Water Tank Drain [message #149954 is a reply to message #149923] |
Thu, 17 November 2011 20:53 |
Chr$
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Here's an Idea, If you have room, get a plastic shoe box to catch water. Pre assemble a quarter turn valve and close it. Holding the old pump over the shoe box, quickly remove the line from the pump that goes to the tank. Put the valve on it. Now you have a shutoff valve and a means to drain the tank. then connect the other side of the valve to the new pump and then swap the other line to the new pump. The as MIke said, screw it to the floor and connect the wiring.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Tank Drain [message #149957 is a reply to message #149954] |
Thu, 17 November 2011 21:00 |
Ken Henderson
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Are Y'All telling me the tank doesn't have a drain valve, piped outside, at
the bottom of the tank -- like in my X-Birchaven? Dumb!
Ken H.
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Chris Choffat <cchoffataz@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Pre assemble a ...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Tank Drain [message #149982 is a reply to message #149979] |
Fri, 18 November 2011 06:43 |
Ken Burton
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I have never had a problem with my drain valve. It works every time I move it. (twice a year) I have it on a pull rod. I just moved the pull rod end to the propane cabinet so I do not have to get under the permanent rear bunk to change positions.
Hint: If you want a good cheap pull rod, grab an antenna off of a junk Ford Tarus. No one wants them so they cost me $1.00 each at a bone yard. They are also stainless and will not rust. I think I got about 10 of them the last time I was these. I cut them down and use them for ham radio antennas and ground planes.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Water Tank Drain [message #150076 is a reply to message #149987] |
Sat, 19 November 2011 02:14 |
jimtze
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Thanks everyone. Still no sign of the drain but when I removed the seat and the cover over the tank I was able to see the problem with the pump and fix it. The screw that goes through the connecting rod had fallen out. Lying on the floor with a flashlight and looking through the wrong part of my glasses, this was not apparent. After the fix I was able to pump out the tank.
Jim Bratvold
Victoria, BC
76 Eleganza ll
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| Re: Water Tank Drain [message #150078 is a reply to message #150076] |
Sat, 19 November 2011 06:43 |
Ken Burton
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If your 76 Elenganza is like my 76 Palm Beach, the drain valve is on the rear side of the tank as low as you can go on the floor. The drain valve and associated plumbing (mine is rubber hose) sits in the seam of the plywood floor and the rear fiberglass cap of the coach.
To completely drain the tank, the valve and plumbing had to be mounted at or lower than the lowest part of the water storage tank. My valve is a 1/4 turn ball valve. I do not know what type of valve the OEM one was. A PO probably installed the ball valve I have. Between the ball valve and the tank there is a TEE that goes to the input side of the water pump.
I added a pull rod to the valve handle and ran the rod to the propane cabinet underneath the rear end of the propane tank. I think I mentioned it before but I used old stainless car antennas from the junk yard for pull rods.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Tank Drain [message #150103 is a reply to message #150086] |
Sat, 19 November 2011 10:33 |
Ken Burton
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Same idea with a little different design. One of my valves is a 3 way so I can suck anti-freeze with the water pump from a bottle for winterizing. My pull rods come one in the same place as yours. No more climbing in back under the bad to transfer the valves twice a year.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water Tank Drain [message #150105 is a reply to message #150086] |
Sat, 19 November 2011 10:37 |
tphipps
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A novel way to drain your fresh water system. Normally, one reads about using compressed air to flush the water lines, and there are adapters made for this purpose.
I drained my fresh water system in a different method. I attached a drain hose to my hot water tank drain, and applied a vacuum to the drain hose. I obtained the vacuum from a HF air-vacuum pump. I attached the hose from the hot water heater drain to the input on the air-vacuum device, applied compressed air to the air inlet, and let it run for awhile. Drained not only the hot water tank (the original goal), but it also drained every water line in the coach.
The HF item is called: Air Vacuum Pump, part nr: 03952. No moving parts, stricly an air venturi effect. Designed for removing moisture from air conditioning systems.
I think that this is the method that I will use to drain the anit-freeze out when spring comes.
Tom Phipps,
MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
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