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| Re: [GMCnet] And now for a little side ways [message #344838 is a reply to message #344837] |
Wed, 03 July 2019 17:13   |
Dolph Santorine
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$5,000
American Money!
Dolph Santorine
DE AD0LF
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
Howell EFI/EBL , Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
> On Jul 3, 2019, at 6:05 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist wrote:
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> Makes ya wonder if they'll do 455!
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> D C "Mac" Macdonald
> Amateur Radio K2GKK
> Since 30 November '53
> USAF and FAA, Retired
> Member GMCMI & Classics
> Oklahoma City, OK
> "The Money Pit"
> TZE166V101966
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> Cc: Todd Snyder
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] And now for a little side ways
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> Says $5k for a brand new bare block
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> Todd Snyder, Buffalo NY
> 1976 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] And now for a little side ways [message #344923 is a reply to message #344838] |
Fri, 05 July 2019 07:47 |
GMC.LES
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He is more active on Facebook than here. He often participates in engine transplant discussions there. IIRC, he stated that he hasn’t pursued the 383 project or any LS swap efforts due to lack of any serious interest from others.
Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'
> On Jul 3, 2019, at 6:13 PM, Adolph Santorine via Gmclist wrote:
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> $5,000
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> American Money!
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> Dolph Santorine
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> DE AD0LF
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> Wheeling, West Virginia
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> 1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
> Howell EFI/EBL , Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
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>> On Jul 3, 2019, at 6:05 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist wrote:
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>> Makes ya wonder if they'll do 455!
>>
>> D C "Mac" Macdonald
>> Amateur Radio K2GKK
>> Since 30 November '53
>> USAF and FAA, Retired
>> Member GMCMI & Classics
>> Oklahoma City, OK
>> "The Money Pit"
>> TZE166V101966
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Gmclist on behalf of Todd Snyder via Gmclist
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 16:35
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Cc: Todd Snyder
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] And now for a little side ways
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>> Says $5k for a brand new bare block
>> --
>> Todd Snyder, Buffalo NY
>> 1976 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] And now for a little side ways [message #344924 is a reply to message #344923] |
Fri, 05 July 2019 07:59 |
Dolph Santorine
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It’s great that there are new replacement parts available.
I have an Eagle brand crankshaft in my 455 which is .030 over.
It was not outrageously expensive, and let me use 0.0 spec bearings (and I don’t know if that’s local lingo, or the right way to say it).
I’m still trying to figure out if the first shortage we face will be engine parts or transmissions.
Right now, transmissions seems to be the Achilles heel.
Dolph
DE AD0LF
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
> On Jul 5, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Les Burt via Gmclist wrote:
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> He is more active on Facebook than here. He often participates in engine transplant discussions there. IIRC, he stated that he hasn’t pursued the 383 project or any LS swap efforts due to lack of any serious interest from others.
>
> Les Burt
> Montreal
> '75 Eleganza 26'
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>> On Jul 3, 2019, at 6:13 PM, Adolph Santorine via Gmclist wrote:
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>> $5,000
>>
>> American Money!
>>
>> Dolph Santorine
>>
>> DE AD0LF
>>
>> Wheeling, West Virginia
>>
>> 1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
>> Howell EFI/EBL , Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 3, 2019, at 6:05 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist wrote:
>>>
>>> Makes ya wonder if they'll do 455!
>>>
>>> D C "Mac" Macdonald
>>> Amateur Radio K2GKK
>>> Since 30 November '53
>>> USAF and FAA, Retired
>>> Member GMCMI & Classics
>>> Oklahoma City, OK
>>> "The Money Pit"
>>> TZE166V101966
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Gmclist on behalf of Todd Snyder via Gmclist
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 16:35
>>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>>> Cc: Todd Snyder
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] And now for a little side ways
>>>
>>> Says $5k for a brand new bare block
>>> --
>>> Todd Snyder, Buffalo NY
>>> 1976 Eleganza II
>>>
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| Re: And now for a little side ways [message #344937 is a reply to message #318629] |
Fri, 05 July 2019 15:05 |
jhbridges
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The transmissions will become a problem long before the 455 engines. There's lots of the engines out there to rebuild or reman, depending how you phrase it. Transmission 'hard parts' are already scarce - mind, the 425 turns 'backwards'. Chains are limited to NOS and whatever Manny has left, less than 20 as I understand it.
As I understand it, Mike's research shows that the 4T80E GM transaxle has the poon to withstand service in our coaches. Since it's transverse, another engine which will hook up to it is necessary, he believes the 383 Chev truck motor is the answer.
There's lots of these transmissions out there, and parts are still available - and will be for years. The question becomes, what is needed to get the package stuffed into a GMC. Given cubic money, not a problem. Given normal budget constraints, what's it gonna cost to develop?
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: And now for a little side ways [message #344938 is a reply to message #318629] |
Fri, 05 July 2019 15:07 |
jhbridges
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Matterofact, for those of us who were at the recent Dixielanders/Crabs rally, don't you think RCR could do this conversion fairly quickly? Wonder what they'd charge.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] And now for a little side ways [message #344939 is a reply to message #344938] |
Fri, 05 July 2019 15:37 |
Dolph Santorine
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They likely wouldn’t look at it.
It’s not what they do, and they are obviously focused on the go fast mission.
Dolph Santorine
DE AD0LF
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
Howell EFI/EBL , Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
> On Jul 5, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist wrote:
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> Matterofact, for those of us who were at the recent Dixielanders/Crabs rally, don't you think RCR could do this conversion fairly quickly? Wonder
> what they'd charge.
>
> --johnny
> --
> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: And now for a little side ways [message #344955 is a reply to message #318629] |
Sat, 06 July 2019 08:28 |
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Just took a look at the 4T80 and it seems to use a chain drive as well. Wonder if it would be suitable to adapt it to the TH425? Looks like it is a 1 inch chain, which is a little smaller than the one used on the 425, yes? Saw some high hp 4t80 applications where they even ran a double 4T80 chain though, which may be an option...
If not, has anyone looked into reproducing the 425 chain?
Mark S. '73 Painted Desert,
Manny 1 Ton Front End,
Howell Injection,
Leigh Harrison 4bag and Rear Brakes,
Fort Worth, TX
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| Re: [GMCnet] And now for a little side ways [message #344960 is a reply to message #344955] |
Sat, 06 July 2019 08:56 |
James Hupy
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Drive chain is not the "missing link" in critical parts shortages for the
TM425. Gaskets, and very precision planetary gearsets that only fit that
application are.
Not just anyone possesses intimate knowledge of the transmission. Even
replacing/exchanging them is no walk in the park. I have R&R'd several of
them, and there are pitfalls along the way. I now leave it to younger
technicians with the experience and hoists and tools, (you really need all
three) to do the job.
If you are like Hal St.Clair, and are a great fabricator, you could
install a duramax or other diesel engine and adapt a heavy duty 4 x 4
automatic and custom drive shafts. As long as the two biggest factors are
present, time and money, almost anything is possible.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Sat, Jul 6, 2019, 6:32 AM Mark Sawyer via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Just took a look at the 4T80 and it seems to use a chain drive as well.
> Wonder if it would be suitable to adapt it to the TH425? Looks like it is
> a 1
> inch chain, which is a little smaller than the one used on the 425, yes?
> Saw some high hp 4t80 applications where they even ran a double 4T80 chain
> though, which may be an option...
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> If not, has anyone looked into reproducing the 425 chain?
> --
> Mark S. '73 Painted Desert,
> Manny 1 Ton Front End,
> Howell Injection,
> Leigh Harrison 4bag and Rear Brakes,
> Fort Worth, TX
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| Re: And now for a little side ways [message #344961 is a reply to message #318629] |
Sat, 06 July 2019 09:36 |
jhbridges
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Well, I've done four R&R so far, one over a pit with a hoist and three on a pad. You only need to raise the coach about 20 inches and crib it and the transmission lowers with Ken Henderson's fitting easily. It isn't quick - DIY project - but eminently do-able. Two people can do it in less than half the time it takes one. George Z and I learned on one of mine.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] And now for a little side ways [message #344969 is a reply to message #344961] |
Sat, 06 July 2019 12:14 |
Ken Henderson
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Manny (mostly) and I did a TH425 R&R in 45 minutes in a parking lot.
Ken H.
On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 10:52 AM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Well, I've done four R&R so far, one over a pit with a hoist and three on
> a pad. You only need to raise the coach about 20 inches and crib it and the
> transmission lowers with Ken Henderson's fitting easily. It isn't quick -
> DIY project - but eminently do-able. Two people can do it in less than
> half the time it takes one. George Z and I learned on one of mine.
>
> --johnny
> --
> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] And now for a little side ways [message #344970 is a reply to message #344969] |
Sat, 06 July 2019 12:35 |
James Hupy
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But, Manny is unique among men. Similar to Mickey Mantle, or Babe Ruth.
There are not many among us like him.
Jim Hupy
On Sat, Jul 6, 2019, 10:15 AM Ken Henderson via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Manny (mostly) and I did a TH425 R&R in 45 minutes in a parking lot.
>
> Ken H.
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> On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 10:52 AM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> Well, I've done four R&R so far, one over a pit with a hoist and three on
>> a pad. You only need to raise the coach about 20 inches and crib it and
> the
>> transmission lowers with Ken Henderson's fitting easily. It isn't quick
> -
>> DIY project - but eminently do-able. Two people can do it in less than
>> half the time it takes one. George Z and I learned on one of mine.
>>
>> --johnny
>> --
>> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
>> Braselton, Ga.
>> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
>> in hell
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] And now for a little side ways [message #344972 is a reply to message #344970] |
Sat, 06 July 2019 12:47 |
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If there was a t425 rnr world championship competition he would be the
favorite.
Sully
Bellevue wa
On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 10:45 AM James Hupy via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> But, Manny is unique among men. Similar to Mickey Mantle, or Babe Ruth.
> There are not many among us like him.
> Jim Hupy
>
> On Sat, Jul 6, 2019, 10:15 AM Ken Henderson via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> Manny (mostly) and I did a TH425 R&R in 45 minutes in a parking lot.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 10:52 AM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I've done four R&R so far, one over a pit with a hoist and three
> on
>>> a pad. You only need to raise the coach about 20 inches and crib it
> and
>> the
>>> transmission lowers with Ken Henderson's fitting easily. It isn't
> quick
>> -
>>> DIY project - but eminently do-able. Two people can do it in less than
>>> half the time it takes one. George Z and I learned on one of mine.
>>>
>>> --johnny
>>> --
>>> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
>>> Braselton, Ga.
>>> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to
> me
>>> in hell
>>>
>>>
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77 Royale basket case.
Future motorhome land speed record holder(bucket list)
Seattle, Wa.
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