| [GMCnet] When do we stop driving a motorhome? [message #357226] |
Sun, 26 July 2020 23:49  |
BobDunahugh
Messages: 2465
Registered: October 2010
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Karma: 11
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Had a scary situation this weekend. Was using a friend's tractor trailer. To get my Yenko's to the National Corvette Museum in Bowling Green Ky. From Cedar Rapids Iowa. The trailer is an enclose. Climate controlled 53 ft unit. Can haul 6 cars. With its hydraulic 2 levels. And it has extremely, fantastic braking abilities. With great car tie downs. That I'm very grateful for now. With the ZL1 Camaro. And the 5 Yenkos. The combined value comes in at about $2.1 million for the cars. At the bottom end. Plus, another million in the tractor trailer. ( Crazy nice trailer.)
We were on a 4-lane state route. We had a 38 ft diesel pusher run a red light in front of us. I never dreamed that a tractor trailer could handle that well. And stop that short at 60 MPH. We got a VERY good look. At an elderly man behind the wheel of the pusher. With his eyes the size of a golf ball each. And his wife screaming. By the why she looked.
When we got out. I was truly afraid to look inside the trailer. And see the carnage. As the trailer A/C unit had stopped. ( A safety had shut it down. ) Not the cars running into it. As two of my Yenkos. Are true one of ones. The only ones ever built by GM/Yenko. Everything survived fine. Took 2 years off my life.
The point here is. We ALL need to evaluate our driving skills each time we hit the road. No matter our age. For the safety of all.
Bob Dunahugh
Still with my Yanko's
_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
|
|
|
|
| Re: [GMCnet] When do we stop driving a motorhome? [message #357227 is a reply to message #357226] |
Mon, 27 July 2020 00:21  |
roy1
Messages: 2126
Registered: July 2004
Location: Minden nevada
Karma: 6
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Diesel pushers don’t stop that quick good reason to keep speed down near traffic lights sounds like he was going too fast or not paying attention. Sounds like my wife and she probably will end his Motorhome driving. My pusher is only 32’ but it is more to handle then the 26’ GMC I would not feel comfortable in a 38’ or larger. You certainly wouldn’t find me driving a rig like you were driving those days are in my rear view mirror.
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
|
|
|
|
| Re: [GMCnet] When do we stop driving a motorhome? [message #357228 is a reply to message #357226] |
Mon, 27 July 2020 00:00 |
jimk
Messages: 6734
Registered: July 2006
Location: Belmont, CA
Karma: 9
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Bob, at least you did not tangle with the rhome.
I find myself not fully paying attention when driving.
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:50 PM Bob Dunahugh via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Had a scary situation this weekend. Was using a friend's tractor
> trailer. To get my Yenko's to the National Corvette Museum in Bowling
> Green Ky. From Cedar Rapids Iowa. The trailer is an enclose. Climate
> controlled 53 ft unit. Can haul 6 cars. With its hydraulic 2 levels. And
> it has extremely, fantastic braking abilities. With great car tie downs.
> That I'm very grateful for now. With the ZL1 Camaro. And the 5 Yenkos. The
> combined value comes in at about $2.1 million for the cars. At the bottom
> end. Plus, another million in the tractor trailer. ( Crazy nice trailer.)
> We were on a 4-lane state route. We had a 38 ft diesel pusher run a
> red light in front of us. I never dreamed that a tractor trailer could
> handle that well. And stop that short at 60 MPH. We got a VERY good look.
> At an elderly man behind the wheel of the pusher. With his eyes the size of
> a golf ball each. And his wife screaming. By the why she looked.
> When we got out. I was truly afraid to look inside the trailer. And see
> the carnage. As the trailer A/C unit had stopped. ( A safety had shut it
> down. ) Not the cars running into it. As two of my Yenkos. Are true one of
> ones. The only ones ever built by GM/Yenko. Everything survived fine. Took
> 2 years off my life.
> The point here is. We ALL need to evaluate our driving skills each time
> we hit the road. No matter our age. For the safety of all.
> Bob Dunahugh
> Still with my Yanko's
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>
--
Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk@appliedairfilters.com
http://www.gmcrvparts.com
1-800-752-7502
_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC
jimk@appliedairfilters.com
www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
|
|
|
|
| Re: [GMCnet] When do we stop driving a motorhome? [message #357229 is a reply to message #357228] |
Mon, 27 July 2020 00:14 |
James Hupy
Messages: 6806
Registered: May 2010
Karma: -62
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Bob, lot to be said for Providence. It wasn't your turn in the bullseye.
You need to go buy a lottery ticket. We never know when we will get called
home. Glad you and your cars are all o.k.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 10:00 PM Jim Kanomata via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Bob, at least you did not tangle with the rhome.
> I find myself not fully paying attention when driving.
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:50 PM Bob Dunahugh via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Had a scary situation this weekend. Was using a friend's tractor
>> trailer. To get my Yenko's to the National Corvette Museum in Bowling
>> Green Ky. From Cedar Rapids Iowa. The trailer is an enclose. Climate
>> controlled 53 ft unit. Can haul 6 cars. With its hydraulic 2 levels. And
>> it has extremely, fantastic braking abilities. With great car tie downs.
>> That I'm very grateful for now. With the ZL1 Camaro. And the 5 Yenkos.
> The
>> combined value comes in at about $2.1 million for the cars. At the bottom
>> end. Plus, another million in the tractor trailer. ( Crazy nice trailer.)
>> We were on a 4-lane state route. We had a 38 ft diesel pusher run
> a
>> red light in front of us. I never dreamed that a tractor trailer could
>> handle that well. And stop that short at 60 MPH. We got a VERY good look.
>> At an elderly man behind the wheel of the pusher. With his eyes the size
> of
>> a golf ball each. And his wife screaming. By the why she looked.
>> When we got out. I was truly afraid to look inside the trailer. And
> see
>> the carnage. As the trailer A/C unit had stopped. ( A safety had shut
> it
>> down. ) Not the cars running into it. As two of my Yenkos. Are true one
> of
>> ones. The only ones ever built by GM/Yenko. Everything survived fine.
> Took
>> 2 years off my life.
>> The point here is. We ALL need to evaluate our driving skills each
> time
>> we hit the road. No matter our age. For the safety of all.
>> Bob Dunahugh
>> Still with my Yanko's
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>
>
>
> --
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
> http://www.gmcrvparts.com
> 1-800-752-7502
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>
_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: [GMCnet] When do we stop driving a motorhome? [message #357234 is a reply to message #357228] |
Mon, 27 July 2020 01:19 |
Olly Schmidt
Messages: 1265
Registered: February 2014
Location: Germany and Scottsville, ...
Karma: 8
|
Senior Member |
|
|
On 27.07.20 08:13, Olly Schmidt via Gmclist wrote:
> In Germany the rule is:
Another note: There are different speed limits for passenger cars (below
3,5to), and trucks.
Autobahn:
passenger cars can go as fast as they want.
Trucks are only allow up to 50mph
regular highways:
passengar cars: up to ~60mph/ 100km/h
Trucks: up to ~40mph/ 80km/h
There is an excempt for special vehicles like RVs over 3,5to: 100 for
Autobahn, and 80 for highways.
In the US, people are driving way faster with these heavier vehicles,
and that of course, is bad for the stopping distance.
--
Best regards
Olly Schmidt
PGP KeyID: 0x4196BF22
'76a 26' Eleganza II - Virginia, US
'73 23' Sequoia - Schleswig-Holstein, Germany
_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
Best regards
Olly Schmidt
PGP Key ID: 0x18a9 3a1f 4196 bf22
'76a Eleganza II, VA
'73 Sequoia, SH, Germany
|
|
|
|
| Re: [GMCnet] When do we stop driving a motorhome? [message #357235 is a reply to message #357227] |
Mon, 27 July 2020 01:13 |
Olly Schmidt
Messages: 1265
Registered: February 2014
Location: Germany and Scottsville, ...
Karma: 8
|
Senior Member |
|
|
On 27.07.20 07:21, roy keen via Gmclist wrote:
> Diesel pushers don’t stop that quick
In Germany the rule is: A car has to stop in a given amount of distance.
No matter, if it is a small passenger car, or a big truck. The passenger
cars of course are much better, but the trucks still should stop much
better than one would assume.
--
Best regards
Olly Schmidt
PGP KeyID: 0x4196BF22
'76a 26' Eleganza II - Virginia, US
'73 23' Sequoia - Schleswig-Holstein, Germany
_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
Best regards
Olly Schmidt
PGP Key ID: 0x18a9 3a1f 4196 bf22
'76a Eleganza II, VA
'73 Sequoia, SH, Germany
|
|
|
|
| Re: [GMCnet] When do we stop driving a motorhome? [message #357237 is a reply to message #357226] |
Mon, 27 July 2020 05:46 |
6cuda6
Messages: 975
Registered: June 2019
Karma: -6
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Trucks in North America stop in about 220 feet from 60mph (fully loaded) on average....better with disc brakes but worse with drums. For every time you add 10mph to that 60mph you increase the braking distance exponentially hence the governed speed for alot of trucks is 60.
Cars take about 130 feet to do the same stop (no added brake aids like ABS)
So a diesel pusher doing X speed with X weight on a little 5 ton chassis isnt going to stop fast....add someone behind the wheel with slow reflexes and distractions plus poor vision.....recipe for disaster.
It baffles me that people feel the need to tow their trailer at 65/70mph/plus or drive their big brick on wheels and have no clue how hard it is to stop that thing.
With the rise in RV sales due to the pandemic their is going to be a rise in related accidents....wont be long before the goverment (insurance) requires either a speed limit and/or special licensing.
Rich Mondor,
Brockville, ON
77 Hughes 2600
|
|
|
|
| Re: [GMCnet] When do we stop driving a motorhome? [message #357238 is a reply to message #357237] |
Mon, 27 July 2020 06:01 |
Olly Schmidt
Messages: 1265
Registered: February 2014
Location: Germany and Scottsville, ...
Karma: 8
|
Senior Member |
|
|
On 27.07.20 12:46, 6cuda6--- via Gmclist wrote:
> better with disc brakes but worse with drums
It was my understanding that drum brakes stop as good as disc brakes on
the first stop, but have the disadvantage of braking worse on subsequent
stops.
Is my understanding wrong?
--
Best regards
Olly Schmidt
PGP KeyID: 0x4196BF22
'76a 26' Eleganza II - Virginia, US
'73 23' Sequoia - Schleswig-Holstein, Germany
_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
Best regards
Olly Schmidt
PGP Key ID: 0x18a9 3a1f 4196 bf22
'76a Eleganza II, VA
'73 Sequoia, SH, Germany
|
|
|
|
| Re: [GMCnet] When do we stop driving a motorhome? [message #357240 is a reply to message #357226] |
Mon, 27 July 2020 07:27 |
jhbridges
Messages: 8412
Registered: May 2011
Location: Braselton ga
Karma: -74
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Until or unless they overheat, the drum brakes will do as well as the discs. This assumes either has the ability to stop the wheel from turning at all (skid). If the brake has that ability, it can stop the vehicle as well as it's going to stop. The drum brakes heat causes the drum to expand and can cause it to expand so much the shoes can no longer make as good contact. The discs will still clamp until they get so hot the fluid boils.
I figure I used up all my two wheel luck and much of my four wheel. Consequently I dri8ve like a little ol' lady, and in my coach I stay away from everybody and everything. As we grow older we get distracted more easily. This means we start stopping sooner and make it a point to look out for whatever's on the road with us. Whsat used to be second nature now takes a positive thought to drive safely.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: [GMCnet] When do we stop driving a motorhome? [message #357250 is a reply to message #357245] |
Mon, 27 July 2020 12:22 |
roy1
Messages: 2126
Registered: July 2004
Location: Minden nevada
Karma: 6
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Another thing with most pushers that have air brakes you have to remember the brake pedal is not a swing pedal that has better leverage it is threw the floor like 1940’s cars you need to be sure to apply with your foot at the top of .the pedal for better leverage
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
|
|
|
|
| Re: [GMCnet] When do we stop driving a motorhome? [message #357252 is a reply to message #357226] |
Mon, 27 July 2020 12:29 |
Mike Kelley
Messages: 467
Registered: February 2017
Karma: -2
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Bob D.:
Yupper - That sure sounds scary alright!
So glad you and the cargo are all okay.
Take care and let us know when you are safely home!
Mike/the Corvair a holic
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 26, 2020, at 11:49 PM, Bob Dunahugh via Gmclist wrote:
>
> Had a scary situation this weekend. Was using a friend's tractor trailer. To get my Yenko's to the National Corvette Museum in Bowling Green Ky. From Cedar Rapids Iowa. The trailer is an enclose. Climate controlled 53 ft unit. Can haul 6 cars. With its hydraulic 2 levels. And it has extremely, fantastic braking abilities. With great car tie downs. That I'm very grateful for now. With the ZL1 Camaro. And the 5 Yenkos. The combined value comes in at about $2.1 million for the cars. At the bottom end. Plus, another million in the tractor trailer. ( Crazy nice trailer.)
> We were on a 4-lane state route. We had a 38 ft diesel pusher run a red light in front of us. I never dreamed that a tractor trailer could handle that well. And stop that short at 60 MPH. We got a VERY good look. At an elderly man behind the wheel of the pusher. With his eyes the size of a golf ball each. And his wife screaming. By the why she looked.
> When we got out. I was truly afraid to look inside the trailer. And see the carnage. As the trailer A/C unit had stopped. ( A safety had shut it down. ) Not the cars running into it. As two of my Yenkos. Are true one of ones. The only ones ever built by GM/Yenko. Everything survived fine. Took 2 years off my life.
> The point here is. We ALL need to evaluate our driving skills each time we hit the road. No matter our age. For the safety of all.
> Bob Dunahugh
> Still with my Yanko's
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
|
|
|
|
GMCforum
Search
Help
Register
Login
Home
