| brackets [message #343310] |
Tue, 14 May 2019 16:27  |
jhbridges
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Can someone point me to photos of the brackets on a 455 in a motorhome, or to better drawings than what's in the manual. I got the compressor brackes on. I got the alternator brackets on I got two strange brackets and a steering pump on the ground. The picture (drawing actually) in the book isn't real clear. Where it looks like one of them ought to go according to the drawing, there ain't no hole there. Help!
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] brackets [message #343312 is a reply to message #343310] |
Tue, 14 May 2019 16:46  |
emerystora
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I am traveling and don’t have access to a manual right now. There is a good chance that the other brackets might be fan shroud brackets.
There is also a small bracket for the rear of the alternator. Be sure to use the bushing between the bracket and the head. It’s about 3/4” thick. Without it your belt won’t align properly.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On May 14, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist wrote:
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> Can someone point me to photos of the brackets on a 455 in a motorhome, or to better drawings than what's in the manual. I got the compressor brackes
> on. I got the alternator brackets on I got two strange brackets and a steering pump on the ground. The picture (drawing actually) in the book isn't
> real clear. Where it looks like one of them ought to go according to the drawing, there ain't no hole there. Help!
>
> --johnny
> --
> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: brackets [message #343317 is a reply to message #343310] |
Tue, 14 May 2019 19:01 |
JohnS
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Parts manual page 16-19 shows a pretty good picture. Note that "washer" item 10 is needed to ensure correct alignment of pump to the plane of the crankshaft pulley so the the belts run straight. It is tough to get in but even tougher to do after the pump has been installed. Ask me how I know! I used this diagram as a guide when installing a new pump on my 77 455.
Good luck. John S.
John Shutzbaugh, Vacaville, CA, ncserv@aol.com;
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| Re: [GMCnet] brackets [message #343318 is a reply to message #343312] |
Tue, 14 May 2019 19:52 |
Bruce Hart
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Can you send me a photo of the brackets?. I have help swap out four
engines in the three years and have a good idea where they might go.
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 3:47 PM Emery Stora via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> I am traveling and don’t have access to a manual right now. There is a
> good chance that the other brackets might be fan shroud brackets.
>
> There is also a small bracket for the rear of the alternator. Be sure to
> use the bushing between the bracket and the head. It’s about 3/4” thick.
> Without it your belt won’t align properly.
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> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
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>> On May 14, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> Can someone point me to photos of the brackets on a 455 in a motorhome,
> or to better drawings than what's in the manual. I got the compressor
> brackes
>> on. I got the alternator brackets on I got two strange brackets and a
> steering pump on the ground. The picture (drawing actually) in the book
> isn't
>> real clear. Where it looks like one of them ought to go according to
> the drawing, there ain't no hole there. Help!
>>
>> --johnny
>> --
>> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
>> Braselton, Ga.
>> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to
> me in hell
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| Re: brackets [message #343324 is a reply to message #343310] |
Wed, 15 May 2019 08:24 |
jhbridges
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I got the A/C compressor brackets on correctly. I got the alternator one on, but I suspect its three bolts also hold some of the steering pump brackets. I got the alternator brace and spacer. I use a yardstick (steel) as a straightedge to prove pulley alignment.. so far so good. I don't have the parts manual, just maintenance and supplement. I'll get it from Bdub and see if that drawing is any more legible than the one in the maintenance manual.
Thanks!
johnny
n.b. this coach never had a horse collar as long as I've had it. One piece fiberglas shroud. Which I will likely split on re installation.
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: brackets [message #343325 is a reply to message #343310] |
Wed, 15 May 2019 08:37 |
jhbridges
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I can't find the parts manual on Bdub's or Gene F's site. Can anyone point me towards a .pdf or at least pages 16 - 19?
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: brackets [message #343337 is a reply to message #343310] |
Wed, 15 May 2019 11:23 |
jhbridges
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>here is a scan<
Thanks, Printed large I think I got it.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: brackets [message #343348 is a reply to message #343310] |
Wed, 15 May 2019 14:48 |
jhbridges
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I'm done, thank you all. Gotta tighten everything up but it's all there.
thanks,
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: brackets [message #343485 is a reply to message #343310] |
Sun, 19 May 2019 14:08 |
jhbridges
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Spoke too soon  Missed the nut on the stud on the rear of the pump. Took it all apart, mounted the pump and reservoir together, and then put the assembly back on the engine. Total time to R&R the power steering pump, replace the pump on the reservoir with the new one, and put it all back on right, ~~ 6 hours. This included the hour or so I spent repairing the Advance Auto loaner pulley remover - replacer. Guys, when you borrow a one - off tool for one time use, please LEARN HOW TO USE IT. Geez, a how to chart came with the thing. Someone or ones had cross threaded about all the threads in it. Some time spent with my Freight, Harbor heathen chinee tap n die set and I got everything to working except the universal pin, which was stripped beyond repair.. Fortunately, a GM 3.1 pin works to press the pulley on. The Advance manager had a couple of the same tool kit with missing or broken pieces, we managed to gin up two complete kits using pieces from the third one. Note that this was done sitting where the radiator should be, facing the front of the engine. To get it off and back on with the radiator fitted would take substantially longer, if it was even possible. Truly an argument for a split radiator bracket.
A/C compressor next!
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: brackets [message #343488 is a reply to message #343485] |
Sun, 19 May 2019 17:02 |
lqqkatjon
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Having minor ptsd thinking of R&R ing that power steering pump again. If I remember correctly on my coach i had it off not long after owning to replace it. Then again when I did the timing chain. Then when I installed the new engine, I bought a new pump/reservoir because the prior one always leaked between pump and reservoir. The new one had a cracked return pipe or I cracked it on install, so I just did that job again this spring. That bracket is crazy complicated and hard to reach every bolt! Worst is trying to make sure timing tab does not get out of place.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: brackets [message #343501 is a reply to message #343310] |
Mon, 20 May 2019 07:22 |
jhbridges
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yes. But now that I know which ones, two bolts and one nut remove it. Loosen a couple more to swing things out of the way. This lets you mess with the brackets on the workbench.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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