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Fair Warning - Price's coach in Family RVing.... [message #340211] Mon, 21 January 2019 09:05 Go to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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There is an article in February Family RVing about the Price's high buck rework of a GMC.
The title is "From junker to Museum Piece". I would not agree.

The author of the article was very kind. For those of us that saw this up close and personal, we can tell how kind this was. They point out some of the problems that they had, and those of us that know GMCs will recognize that some of these were very curable and some were created in the modifications.

If you recall seeing this coach and the ensuing discussions of total cost, you will be interested in the fact that they did identify that the total expenditure was north of anything most of us would have guessed.

Yes, it is in a museum, but as a long time aficionado of museums I would argue that its place is not in a historical display setting. It may have a place somewhere, but I still think the pick-up truck nose does not add anything to final result. Admittedly, that is just my opinion, but that is also just one of many things. As to what can be done to one of these coaches, I think some of us own better examples of mods and upgrades.

Matt - sitting in the warm and watching numbers creep closer to Zero - On their Way Up!!


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Re: Fair Warning - Price's coach in Family RVing.... [message #340220 is a reply to message #340211] Mon, 21 January 2019 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Russell K. is currently offline  Russell K.   United States
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Matt,
I also read the article this morning about the $500,000 GMC Motorhome that Bob and Janet Prince paid to create.

I was deeply saddened (almost angered) by some of Janet Prince's comments about their coach. Such as:

"On level terrain, it did not handle well. It was terrifying to drive." Janet said, "You could feel the tires vibrating up the steering column"

and: following an electrical fire in the engine compartment she said:

"That," Janet said. "was the straw that broke the camel's back". Actually, her back was almost broken. "When my disc exploded, it was from the hard ride. Not only did (the GMC) try to kill me, when I was not there it tried to kill Bob by burning down the house." She chuckled. "it's like a little poltergeist lived inside of it. It was possessed."
[btw, the house was not damaged]

and the article continued:

Once, while Janet was driving in heavy highway traffic in Naples. Florida, the GMC's engine died, forcing her to maneuver to the berm without power steering or power brakes.
_____________________

Matt, as you mentioned, their issues could have been corrected, if they had just reached out and asked for help from the right people.

Here is a link to the article. Don't read it if you have high blood pressure.

https://familyrvingmag.advanced-pub.com/?issueID=75&pageID=52


1978 Eleganza II, Dunedin, Florida
Re: [GMCnet] Fair Warning - Price's coach in Family RVing.... [message #340226 is a reply to message #340220] Mon, 21 January 2019 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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These people thought they know enough not to ask or consult with people
like Jim Bounds and other shops .
The weight distribution was wrong and it could not be corrected.
They deserve to waste their funds.
That unit should be pulled out and scrapped.

On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 10:42 AM Russell Keith wrote:

> Matt,
> I also read the article this morning about the $500,000 GMC Motorhome that
> Bob and Janet Prince paid to create.
>
> I was deeply saddened (almost angered) by some of Janet Prince's comments
> about their coach. Such as:
>
> "On level terrain, it did not handle well. It was terrifying to drive."
> Janet said, "You could feel the tires vibrating up the steering column"
>
> and: following an electrical fire in the engine compartment she said:
>
> "That," Janet said. "was the straw that broke the camel's back". Actually,
> her back was almost broken. "When my disc exploded, it was from the hard
> ride. Not only did (the GMC) try to kill me, when I was not there it tried
> to kill Bob by burning down the house." She chuckled. "it's like a little
> poltergeist lived inside of it. It was possessed."
> [btw, the house was not damaged]
>
> and the article continued:
>
> Once, while Janet was driving in heavy highway traffic in Naples. Florida,
> the GMC's engine died, forcing her to maneuver to the berm without power
> steering or power brakes.
> _____________________
>
> Matt, as you mentioned, their issues could have been corrected, if they
> had just reached out and asked for help from the right people.
>
> Here is a link to the article. Don't read it if you have high blood
> pressure.
>
> https://familyrvingmag.advanced-pub.com/?issueID=75&pageID=52
>
> --
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Re: Fair Warning - Price's coach in Family RVing.... [message #340234 is a reply to message #340211] Mon, 21 January 2019 18:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
94nubble is currently offline  94nubble   United States
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I just talked to Jerry Work, the FMCA liaison for GMCI. Jerry said that he had heard a little about the article but hadn't seen it yet. He said he would look into it. I also wrote a reply to the magazine telling them that this article doesn't say why the coach was a bad driver and that by not saying anything about the way it was put together was basically stating that the GMC as a vehicle is a bad driver.
So much for telling the whole story. My question is why it this THING is so important other than it belonging to people with more money than brains. FMCA is litterly throwing the GMC under the bus.
Tks...


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Re: [GMCnet] Fair Warning - Price's coach in Family RVing.... [message #340235 is a reply to message #340234] Mon, 21 January 2019 18:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JerryW is currently offline  JerryW   United States
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We should ask FMCA to let us write an article correcting some things in that article that give an uncalled for impression of the GMC.

Emery Stora

> On Jan 21, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Tom McManus wrote:
>
> I just talked to Jerry Work, the FMCA liaison for GMCI. He had heard a little about the article but hadn't seen it yet. He said he would look into it.
> I also wrote a reply to the magazine telling them that this article doesn't say why the couch was a bad driver and that by not saying anything about
> the way it was put together was basically stating that the GMC is a bad vehicle.
> So much for telling the whole story. My question is why it this THING so important other than it belonging to people with more money than brains. FMCA
> is litterly throwing the GMC under the bus.
> Tks...
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>
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Re: [GMCnet] Fair Warning - Price's coach in Family RVing.... [message #340237 is a reply to message #340235] Mon, 21 January 2019 19:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mike Kelley is currently offline  Mike Kelley   United States
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I am w/ Emory S.
It surely needs to be said/done!
Mike/The Corvair a holic
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76 Glenbrook 28’ stretch
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> On Jan 21, 2019, at 6:54 PM, Emery Stora via Gmclist wrote:
>
> We should ask FMCA to let us write an article correcting some things in that article that give an uncalled for impression of the GMC.
>
> Emery Stora
>
>> On Jan 21, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Tom McManus wrote:
>>
>> I just talked to Jerry Work, the FMCA liaison for GMCI. He had heard a little about the article but hadn't seen it yet. He said he would look into it.
>> I also wrote a reply to the magazine telling them that this article doesn't say why the couch was a bad driver and that by not saying anything about
>> the way it was put together was basically stating that the GMC is a bad vehicle.
>> So much for telling the whole story. My question is why it this THING so important other than it belonging to people with more money than brains. FMCA
>> is litterly throwing the GMC under the bus.
>> Tks...
>> --
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>> 1977 Royale
>>
>> Chesapeake VA
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Re: [GMCnet] Fair Warning - Price's coach in Family RVing.... [message #340241 is a reply to message #340235] Mon, 21 January 2019 22:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dolph Santorine is currently offline  Dolph Santorine   United States
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I’m writing this as the president of GMCMI, and as a fellow owner.

I’ve been in touch with members of the GMCMI Board and others, including Jerry Work, Emory Stora and Fred Hudspeth.

We are putting together a response.

I’m leaning toward extolling the virtues of the GMC Motorhome, especially it’s superior handling and ride qualities.

Both key items that have kept it on the road for more than four decades, and is chief among the reasons for the GMC Motorhome's lasting popularity.

I believe we all know what happened here. A few calls to any of the GMC Motorhome experts would have avoided many of the problems they experienced.

I don’t know that criticizing what the Price’ contractors did to their coach will help us communicate the message we need to deliver.

The official GMCMI response will be released tomorrow. Thank you for your patience.


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Re: [GMCnet] Fair Warning - Price's coach in Family RVing.... [message #340243 is a reply to message #340241] Tue, 22 January 2019 04:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Dolph, et al,

Thanks for your efforts -- I too am appalled by the false impressions given
by the FMCA article. I can imagine SOB owners looking at us sadly, shaking
their heads in pity at the agony (they think) we're enduring. NOT the way
to maintain our membership.

Ken H.

On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 11:09 PM Dolph Santorine
wrote:

> I’m writing this as the president of GMCMI, and as a fellow owner.
>
> I’ve been in touch with members of the GMCMI Board and others, including
> Jerry Work, Emory Stora and Fred Hudspeth.
>
> We are putting together a response.
>
> I’m leaning toward extolling the virtues of the GMC Motorhome, especially
> it’s superior handling and ride qualities.
>
> Both key items that have kept it on the road for more than four decades,
> and is chief among the reasons for the GMC Motorhome's lasting popularity.
>
> I believe we all know what happened here. A few calls to any of the GMC
> Motorhome experts would have avoided many of the problems they experienced.
>
> I don’t know that criticizing what the Price’ contractors did to their
> coach will help us communicate the message we need to deliver.
>
> The official GMCMI response will be released tomorrow. Thank you for your
> patience.
>
>
> Dolph Santorine
> President
> GMCMI
>
> Phone: 304-219-3100
>
> DE AD0LF
>
> Wheeling, West Virginia
>
> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
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Re: [GMCnet] Fair Warning - Price's coach in Family RVing.... [message #340245 is a reply to message #340243] Tue, 22 January 2019 09:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Those who stand still for an oil change that costs north of a grand do not
think the same way as "normal" people do.
If their station in life is determined by the perceived value of
their possessions, instead of the trust of their friends, that fall from
grace is going to end with a resounding thud. I pity the fool that places
their values in material possesions.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403 ( It's old and ugly, but it gets me to where my true
friends are)

On Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 2:48 AM Ken Henderson Dolph, et al,[/color]
>
> Thanks for your efforts -- I too am appalled by the false impressions given
> by the FMCA article. I can imagine SOB owners looking at us sadly, shaking
> their heads in pity at the agony (they think) we're enduring. NOT the way
> to maintain our membership.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 11:09 PM Dolph Santorine
> wrote:
>
>> I’m writing this as the president of GMCMI, and as a fellow owner.
>>
>> I’ve been in touch with members of the GMCMI Board and others, including
>> Jerry Work, Emory Stora and Fred Hudspeth.
>>
>> We are putting together a response.
>>
>> I’m leaning toward extolling the virtues of the GMC Motorhome, especially
>> it’s superior handling and ride qualities.
>>
>> Both key items that have kept it on the road for more than four decades,
>> and is chief among the reasons for the GMC Motorhome's lasting
> popularity.
>>
>> I believe we all know what happened here. A few calls to any of the GMC
>> Motorhome experts would have avoided many of the problems they
> experienced.
>>
>> I don’t know that criticizing what the Price’ contractors did to their
>> coach will help us communicate the message we need to deliver.
>>
>> The official GMCMI response will be released tomorrow. Thank you for your
>> patience.
>>
>>
>> Dolph Santorine
>> President
>> GMCMI
>>
>> Phone: 304-219-3100
>>
>> DE AD0LF
>>
>> Wheeling, West Virginia
>>
>> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
>> Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Sullybilt Bags, Manny Transmission
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Fair Warning - Price's coach in Family RVing.... [message #340246 is a reply to message #340245] Tue, 22 January 2019 09:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jeanette is currently offline  Jeanette   United States
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Way to go Dolph n GMCMI leaders. Positive is good.

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> On Jan 22, 2019, at 9:42 AM, James Hupy wrote:
>
> Those who stand still for an oil change that costs north of a grand do not
> think the same way as "normal" people do.
> If their station in life is determined by the perceived value of
> their possessions, instead of the trust of their friends, that fall from
> grace is going to end with a resounding thud. I pity the fool that places
> their values in material possesions.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403 ( It's old and ugly, but it gets me to where my true
> friends are)
>
>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 2:48 AM Ken Henderson >
>> Dolph, et al,
>>
>> Thanks for your efforts -- I too am appalled by the false impressions given
>> by the FMCA article. I can imagine SOB owners looking at us sadly, shaking
>> their heads in pity at the agony (they think) we're enduring. NOT the way
>> to maintain our membership.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 11:09 PM Dolph Santorine
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m writing this as the president of GMCMI, and as a fellow owner.
>>>
>>> I’ve been in touch with members of the GMCMI Board and others, including
>>> Jerry Work, Emory Stora and Fred Hudspeth.
>>>
>>> We are putting together a response.
>>>
>>> I’m leaning toward extolling the virtues of the GMC Motorhome, especially
>>> it’s superior handling and ride qualities.
>>>
>>> Both key items that have kept it on the road for more than four decades,
>>> and is chief among the reasons for the GMC Motorhome's lasting
>> popularity.
>>>
>>> I believe we all know what happened here. A few calls to any of the GMC
>>> Motorhome experts would have avoided many of the problems they
>> experienced.
>>>
>>> I don’t know that criticizing what the Price’ contractors did to their
>>> coach will help us communicate the message we need to deliver.
>>>
>>> The official GMCMI response will be released tomorrow. Thank you for your
>>> patience.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dolph Santorine
>>> President
>>> GMCMI
>>>
>>> Phone: 304-219-3100
>>>
>>> DE AD0LF
>>>
>>> Wheeling, West Virginia
>>>
>>> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
>>> Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Sullybilt Bags, Manny Transmission
>>>
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Re: Fair Warning - Price's coach in Family RVing.... [message #340249 is a reply to message #340211] Tue, 22 January 2019 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NextGenGMC is currently offline  NextGenGMC   United States
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This discussion reminds me of people who make some monstrous upgrade on their sport car suspension and then complain that it doesn't handle well. They then turn around and sell it because it was "bad" and badmouth the entire lineup of the vehicles in that make. If one does something dumb to the vehicle, you can't blame the manufacturer for your poor(sounds like expensive oenes in this case) choices.
BTW, Does anyone have a PDF of the article? Can you share it?


Vadim Jitkov '76 Glenbrook 26' Pullman, WA
Re: Fair Warning - Price's coach in Family RVing.... [message #340251 is a reply to message #340211] Tue, 22 January 2019 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would like to suggest a letter writing campaign to FMCA. They always publish feedback to their articles, and if they get enough letters, I'm guessing they will publish some of them.

Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: [GMCnet] Fair Warning - Price's coach in Family RVing.... [message #340252 is a reply to message #340251] Tue, 22 January 2019 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would suggest that you allow Dolph to finish his response on behalf of GMC owners. Too many responses might just cause them to ignore them all.

Emery Stora

> On Jan 22, 2019, at 11:11 AM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
>
> I would like to suggest a letter writing campaign to FMCA. They always publish feedback to their articles, and if they get enough letters, I'm
> guessing they will publish some of them.
> --
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> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
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Re: [GMCnet] Fair Warning - Price's coach in Family RVing.... [message #340253 is a reply to message #340252] Tue, 22 January 2019 12:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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Okay, well when Dolph is finished with his response, Letters can be addressed to FMCA Editor Robbin Gould (rgould@fmca.com)

Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: Fair Warning - Price's coach in Family RVing.... [message #340270 is a reply to message #340211] Tue, 22 January 2019 17:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have not rx'ed my FMCA copy yet. But I did tour the black coach in Ellhart and "got the story" on it from the lady at the front desk. I'd love to be able to drive it and look it over to see what they did wrong. Could be something really stupid and correctable. Heaven knows I've picked up a few "problem child" vehicles over the years that no one could sort so they went through several owners and eventually aquired them at a price too low to get hurt by. Usually a good visual inspection is a great place to start.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
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Re: [GMCnet] Fair Warning - Price's coach in Family RVing.... [message #340272 is a reply to message #340241] Tue, 22 January 2019 17:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I saw the Price coach at the Dothan rally. When I saw all the cabinets and fancy electronics in the upper half of that coach I thought this is akin to a Peruvian woman with her blanket cache on her head riding a bike.
Throw in the full size washer/dryer and full size bath plus having to set up your bed each night, this project was lost leaving the gate.
It’s quite obvious, members of the GMC were not on their “consultants list”.





Gary Coaster / Reno, NV
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> On Jan 21, 2019, at 8:08 PM, Dolph Santorine wrote:
>
> I’m writing this as the president of GMCMI, and as a fellow owner.
>
> I’ve been in touch with members of the GMCMI Board and others, including Jerry Work, Emory Stora and Fred Hudspeth.
>
> We are putting together a response.
>
> I’m leaning toward extolling the virtues of the GMC Motorhome, especially it’s superior handling and ride qualities.
>
> Both key items that have kept it on the road for more than four decades, and is chief among the reasons for the GMC Motorhome's lasting popularity.
>
> I believe we all know what happened here. A few calls to any of the GMC Motorhome experts would have avoided many of the problems they experienced.
>
> I don’t know that criticizing what the Price’ contractors did to their coach will help us communicate the message we need to deliver.
>
> The official GMCMI response will be released tomorrow. Thank you for your patience.
>
>
> Dolph Santorine
> President
> GMCMI
>
> Phone: 304-219-3100
>
> DE AD0LF
>
> Wheeling, West Virginia
>
> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
> Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Sullybilt Bags, Manny Transmission
>
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Re: Fair Warning - Price's coach in Family RVing.... [message #340275 is a reply to message #340211] Tue, 22 January 2019 18:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GatsbysCruise is currently offline  GatsbysCruise   United States
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Hello Everyone

I don't know of this coach but I have sure heard a lot recently.

My take on this is not as radical.
It only makes sense when you think about it, look how long these coaches have lasted over the years and then again, how many are still running around the country, as well as other countries.

They have more than shown for themselves that they were built to hold up well.

the article that has the group fired up is one sided and only shows the perspective of the owners AFTER they made
some major changes on their own.

Their coach does not fit the OEM GMC pattern anymore.

The Magazine should or should have seen this before it went into print, and now they may have to do a rebuttle to save face with its readers and the GMC community, and to correct an opinion of the GMC as a whole to the readers of the rag.

For the GMC and its owners, its business as usual, travels and get togethers. No major complications happening, and none really expected, wouldn't you say so???

have a wonderful day and enjoy that GMC, minus the created problems that the magazine speaks of because they seem to have been created by its owners.

The very best to you all.



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Re: [GMCnet] Fair Warning - Price's coach in Family RVing.... [message #340282 is a reply to message #340275] Wed, 23 January 2019 05:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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There's another GMC "upgrade" in progress that I've just learned of. It
will receive a lot of comment, including disparagement, but not in the same
vein as our disappointment with the Price coach. It's a Rear wheel drive
(I don't recall what BIG engine) with THREE active axles and BIG wheels
(for Off-Road use). The construction photos I've seen reflect exceptional
engineering and construction (Hal St Clair quality). When the chassis work
is completed it's to receive an "upgraded" GMC body. The expected $1.5M
cost will be astounding to at least "most" of us. We'll probably learn
more only when the TV special arrives. :-)

Ken H.

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Re: Fair Warning - Price's coach in Family RVing.... [message #340286 is a reply to message #340211] Wed, 23 January 2019 07:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerry pinkerton is currently offline  kerry pinkerton   United States
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This whole episode is too bad. I met the Prices at the Bean Station rally several years ago. We sat together eating. They were telling me about their dream. When they told me that they had bought a Eleganza and were having it upgraded to 'Prevost quality' on a GMC platform, I suspected they were in trouble. When they told me they had sent it to Cinnabar for a total mechanical restoration, I KNEW it would not end well. I guess I don't have the poker face I thought I did because Bob asked me 'what?'. I responded that I was underwhelmed by what I knew of Cinnabar. I went on to tell him that I was sure they could do good work if they were permitted to do what needed to be done. Bob responded that it was a 'make it right' engagement.

The next January, the coach was at the Dixielanders winter rally at LazyDays in Tampa. At that time Bob told me he was unhappy with the work Cinnabar had done.

Alex Ferrara told me he had looked at the steering and determined it was off. Alex told me that they were planning on bringing the coach to the Man Cave but never showed up.

As to the price of 500K I believe that is BS. I recall the Princes saying it was around 200K at Dothan. I don't even know HOW you could spend 500K in a 26' package.

The whole thing is a perfect example of people with more money than brains.

As to the handling issue. In addition to the steering being out, I believe the front bogie arm being badly overloaded on the passenger side was a major contributor. We've all experienced rut wander from the leading bogie arm following where it wants to go. Put the 700 lb weight (I just replaced ours in the SOB) of a 24" washer and dryer right on top of the passenger side rear bogies and you've got a imbalance of biblical proportions. I'd love to know what the axle weights were.

Sad.


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: [GMCnet] Fair Warning - Price's coach in Family RVing.... [message #340287 is a reply to message #340282] Wed, 23 January 2019 07:38 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Dolph Santorine is currently offline  Dolph Santorine   United States
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Part of the question is when does a GMC motorohome quit being a GMC motorhome?

I’m confident that people who put the body on a Workhorse chassis or on some other chassis recognize that it’s so far from a GMC that the original builder is not to blame.

I’m hoping your 6 wheel people are the same, Ken.


Dolph

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> On Jan 23, 2019, at 6:42 AM, Ken Henderson wrote:
>
> There's another GMC "upgrade" in progress that I've just learned of. It
> will receive a lot of comment, including disparagement, but not in the same
> vein as our disappointment with the Price coach. It's a Rear wheel drive
> (I don't recall what BIG engine) with THREE active axles and BIG wheels
> (for Off-Road use). The construction photos I've seen reflect exceptional
> engineering and construction (Hal St Clair quality). When the chassis work
> is completed it's to receive an "upgraded" GMC body. The expected $1.5M
> cost will be astounding to at least "most" of us. We'll probably learn
> more only when the TV special arrives. :-)
>
> Ken H.
>
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