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Key Questions to ask the seller: Hot on the trail for a 1974 Eleganza [message #367398] Fri, 29 October 2021 17:48 Go to next message
Reid B is currently offline  Reid B   Canada
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Hello!

I have been on this forum many times but only just signed up yesterday because I'm hot on the trail to buy one in my city. I feel bad doing this, like I'm sucking resources from the wealth of knowledgable of GMC Motorhome owners, even though I'm brand new here. I'm going to go ahead and ask for some help, hoping for the best, any advice would be so greatly appreciated, and I promise that if I don't buy it, I can pass any interested buyers from this forum over to the seller.

A 1974 Eleganza just went for sale, its through a friend of a friend (which is what I always look for). Apparently the guy cares for things meticulously, is a collector, and in his words it is mint. It is currently at the shop getting a new alternator, and having the air bags fixed, and I'm going to view it soon. It has 88,000 miles and is selling for $32k. The interior and exterior look immaculate from the pictures.

I know I need to ask if the engine has been redone, when the brakes have last been re-done, etc. If anyone can give me some ideas in terms of what to ask the seller, that would be a big help. What I'm getting at here is; what are those keys major things I need to know in order to determine if this coach is priced accordingly?

Thanks a million! I will own one of these coaches, just a matter of time! Can't wait to join the crew.

Adam









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[GMCnet] Re: Key Questions to ask the seller: Hot on the trail for a 1974 Eleganza [message #367400 is a reply to message #367398] Fri, 29 October 2021 18:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Are the front grommets replaced, are the fuel lines been replaced with the
tanks down????
That is a lot for a 74 unless they have been done.
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[GMCnet] Re: Key Questions to ask the seller: Hot on the trail for a 1974 Eleganza [message #367401 is a reply to message #367398] Fri, 29 October 2021 18:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Adam,

Where are you?
Where is the coach?

If you’ve never owned a gmc take someone with you to look at it who has.
There is someone on this list who will do that for little or no
compensation. GMC motorhomes are different. Than anything

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 3:48 PM wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I have been on this forum many times but only just signed up yesterday
> because I'm hot on the trail to buy one in my city. I feel bad doing this,
> like
> I'm sucking resources from the wealth of knowledgable of GMC Motorhome
> owners, even though I'm brand new here. I'm going to go ahead and ask for
> some
> help, hoping for the best, any advice would be so greatly appreciated, and
> I promise that if I don't buy it, I can pass any interested buyers from
> this forum over to the seller.
>
> A 1974 Eleganza just went for sale, its through a friend of a friend
> (which is what I always look for). Apparently the guy cares for things
> meticulously, is a collector, and in his words it is mint. It is currently
> at the shop getting a new alternator, and having the air bags fixed, and
> I'm going to view it soon. It has 88,000 miles and is selling for $32k.
> The interior and exterior look immaculate from the pictures.
>
> I know I need to ask if the engine has been redone, when the brakes have
> last been re-done, etc. If anyone can give me some ideas in terms of what to
> ask the seller, that would be a big help. What I'm getting at here is;
> what are those keys major things I need to know in order to determine if
> this
> coach is priced accordingly?
>
> Thanks a million! I will own one of these coaches, just a matter of time!
> Can't wait to join the crew.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Re: Key Questions to ask the seller: Hot on the trail for a 1974 Eleganza [message #367402 is a reply to message #367401] Fri, 29 October 2021 18:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Got it. Front grommets, fuel lines. Adding them to my list

I am in Winnipeg, Canada. I would have zero problem paying someone to take a look at it. When you mention 'someone from this list', how would I go about finding someone from my town who may be knowledgable? Is there a database or registry that shows everyone's location?

Thanks again guys! Appreciate the responses big time.

Adam
[GMCnet] Re: Key Questions to ask the seller: Hot on the trail for a 1974 Eleganza [message #367403 is a reply to message #367402] Fri, 29 October 2021 18:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Include your city/ state or province in you sigfile. Then everyone reading
your posts knows where u are and where they are in relation

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 4:43 PM wrote:

> Got it. Front grommets, fuel lines. Adding them to my list
>
> I am in Winnipeg, Canada. I would have zero problem paying someone to take
> a look at it. When you mention 'someone from this list', how would I go
> about finding someone from my town who may be knowledgable? Is there a
> database or registry that shows everyone's location?
>
> Thanks again guys! Appreciate the responses big time.
>
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[GMCnet] Re: Key Questions to ask the seller: Hot on the trail for a 1974 Eleganza [message #367404 is a reply to message #367400] Fri, 29 October 2021 19:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 4:08 PM Jim Kanomata wrote:

> Are the front grommets replaced, are the fuel lines been replaced with the
> tanks down????
> That is a lot for a 74 unless they have been done.
>


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Try this (it does have listings in your city):
https://www.gmcmi.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/2021-Black-List-GMC-Assist.pdf

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On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 8:27 PM Jim Kanomata wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 4:08 PM Jim Kanomata
> wrote:
>
>> Are the front grommets replaced, are the fuel lines been replaced with
> the
>> tanks down????
>> That is a lot for a 74 unless they have been done.
>>
>
>
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[GMCnet] Re: Key Questions to ask the seller: Hot on the trail for a 1974 Eleganza [message #367406 is a reply to message #367405] Fri, 29 October 2021 20:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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-Another item has the heater hoses to the hot water heater been replaced.
Does it have the standard points system or HEI ignition. How old are the
tires?

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 6:48 PM Ken Henderson
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> Try this (it does have listings in your city):
>
> https://www.gmcmi.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/2021-Black-List-GMC-Assist.pdf
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 8:27 PM Jim Kanomata
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 4:08 PM Jim Kanomata
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Are the front grommets replaced, are the fuel lines been replaced with
>> the
>>> tanks down????
>>> That is a lot for a 74 unless they have been done.
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>> http://www.gmcrvparts.com
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Re: Key Questions to ask the seller: Hot on the trail for a 1974 Eleganza [message #367407 is a reply to message #367398] Fri, 29 October 2021 22:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Reid B wrote on Fri, 29 October 2021 18:48
Hello!

I have been on this forum many times but only just signed up yesterday because I'm hot on the trail to buy one in my city. I feel bad doing this, like I'm sucking resources from the wealth of knowledgable of GMC Motorhome owners, even though I'm brand new here. I'm going to go ahead and ask for some help, hoping for the best, any advice would be so greatly appreciated, and I promise that if I don't buy it, I can pass any interested buyers from this forum over to the seller.

A 1974 Eleganza just went for sale, its through a friend of a friend (which is what I always look for). Apparently the guy cares for things meticulously, is a collector, and in his words it is mint. It is currently at the shop getting a new alternator, and having the air bags fixed, and I'm going to view it soon. It has 88,000 miles and is selling for $32k. The interior and exterior look immaculate from the pictures.

I know I need to ask if the engine has been redone, when the brakes have last been re-done, etc. If anyone can give me some ideas in terms of what to ask the seller, that would be a big help. What I'm getting at here is; what are those keys major things I need to know in order to determine if this coach is priced accordingly?

Thanks a million! I will own one of these coaches, just a matter of time! Can't wait to join the crew.

Adam









Did you read this:
https://gmcidiotsguide.com/chapter-2


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Re: Key Questions to ask the seller: Hot on the trail for a 1974 Eleganza [message #367412 is a reply to message #367398] Sat, 30 October 2021 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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16.5 inch wheels are original, at that price I would want high quality 16 inch wheels
If original air bag setup on rear suspension, is it original bag, is it aluminum cones?
Records for all rubber lines replaced in last ten years, gas,fuel, coolant, etc
What house battery setup is in place…original, 2 six volts, combiner, etc.
What appliances are original, fridge furnace, roof ac,etc
Brake condition, including parking brake
Test everything, fill everything. (My black tank only leaks if it is full for example)
Try to squeeze a little scope camera behind the kitchen cabinets and below front side windows to look for floor rot.
Can you get it on a lift to safely check underside?
Enjoy!
(Some of this is not possible in a normal sale situation…do your best and respect the situation, the seller, and the coach)


1975 Glenbrook, 1978 Royale rear bath Raleigh, NC
[GMCnet] Re: Key Questions to ask the seller: Hot on the trail for a 1974 Eleganza [message #367415 is a reply to message #367407] Sat, 30 October 2021 08:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All good suggestions! Somewhere out on one of the GMC Sites there is a
buyers checklist. It covers almost 90+% of the items that you should be
looking at. Have not found it yet, maybe someone else knows where it is
located at.

J.R. Wright
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On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 11:07 PM Mike wrote:

> Reid B wrote on Fri, 29 October 2021 18:48
>> Hello!
>>
>> I have been on this forum many times but only just signed up yesterday
> because I'm hot on the trail to buy one in my city. I feel bad doing this,
>> like I'm sucking resources from the wealth of knowledgable of GMC
> Motorhome owners, even though I'm brand new here. I'm going to go ahead and
> ask
>> for some help, hoping for the best, any advice would be so greatly
> appreciated, and I promise that if I don't buy it, I can pass any interested
>> buyers from this forum over to the seller.
>>
>> A 1974 Eleganza just went for sale, its through a friend of a friend
> (which is what I always look for). Apparently the guy cares for things
>> meticulously, is a collector, and in his words it is mint. It is
> currently at the shop getting a new alternator, and having the air bags
> fixed, and
>> I'm going to view it soon. It has 88,000 miles and is selling for $32k.
> The interior and exterior look immaculate from the pictures.
>>
>> I know I need to ask if the engine has been redone, when the brakes have
> last been re-done, etc. If anyone can give me some ideas in terms of what
>> to ask the seller, that would be a big help. What I'm getting at here
> is; what are those keys major things I need to know in order to determine if
>> this coach is priced accordingly?
>>
>> Thanks a million! I will own one of these coaches, just a matter of
> time! Can't wait to join the crew.
>>
>> Adam
>
> Did you read this:
> https://gmcidiotsguide.com/chapter-2
>
> --
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> '75 PB
> Southeast Michigan
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[GMCnet] Re: Key Questions to ask the seller: Hot on the trail for a 1974 Eleganza [message #367418 is a reply to message #367415] Sat, 30 October 2021 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Look under Eugene Fisher's GMC Information Site


- Eugene Fisher's GMC Information Site


BUYERS (gmcmotorhome.info)


On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 7:34 AM John Wright wrote:

> All good suggestions! Somewhere out on one of the GMC Sites there is a
> buyers checklist. It covers almost 90+% of the items that you should be
> looking at. Have not found it yet, maybe someone else knows where it is
> located at.
>
> J.R. Wright
> GMC Great Laker
> GMCGL Tech Editor
> GMC Eastern States
> GMCMHI
> TZE Zone Restorations
> 78 Buskirk Custom 29.5' Stretch
> 75 Avion (Under going Frame up Restoration)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 11:07 PM Mike wrote:
>
>> Reid B wrote on Fri, 29 October 2021 18:48
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> I have been on this forum many times but only just signed up yesterday
>> because I'm hot on the trail to buy one in my city. I feel bad doing
> this,
>>> like I'm sucking resources from the wealth of knowledgable of GMC
>> Motorhome owners, even though I'm brand new here. I'm going to go ahead
> and
>> ask
>>> for some help, hoping for the best, any advice would be so greatly
>> appreciated, and I promise that if I don't buy it, I can pass any
> interested
>>> buyers from this forum over to the seller.
>>>
>>> A 1974 Eleganza just went for sale, its through a friend of a friend
>> (which is what I always look for). Apparently the guy cares for things
>>> meticulously, is a collector, and in his words it is mint. It is
>> currently at the shop getting a new alternator, and having the air bags
>> fixed, and
>>> I'm going to view it soon. It has 88,000 miles and is selling for $32k.
>> The interior and exterior look immaculate from the pictures.
>>>
>>> I know I need to ask if the engine has been redone, when the brakes
> have
>> last been re-done, etc. If anyone can give me some ideas in terms of what
>>> to ask the seller, that would be a big help. What I'm getting at here
>> is; what are those keys major things I need to know in order to
> determine if
>>> this coach is priced accordingly?
>>>
>>> Thanks a million! I will own one of these coaches, just a matter of
>> time! Can't wait to join the crew.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>
>> Did you read this:
>> https://gmcidiotsguide.com/chapter-2
>>
>> --
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>> '75 PB
>> Southeast Michigan
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Re: Key Questions to ask the seller: Hot on the trail for a 1974 Eleganza [message #367419 is a reply to message #367398] Sat, 30 October 2021 15:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Adam/Reid. Here's the link to the buyer's guide BruceH mentioned.
http://gmcmotorhome.info/buyer.htm

That's a long list. The odds that the owner would possess the saintly patience that would be required for you to go through the list item by item are slim. There are lots of tire kickers with GMC Motorhomes. Just look at the "completed" sales on eBay. You'll frequently find the same GMC sold two or three times - it's not a scam, it's buyer's remorse for unknown reasons, valid or not. I once flew from Phoenix to Houston to pick up another Birchaven which I was going to drive back. The owner had misrepresented so many things that I questioned his grasp of reality. I ended up flying both ways with some additional experience. With any used vehicle you are taking a leap of faith. Just don't jump too far!

The advice to have a knowledgeable local GMCer check it out with you is without a doubt your best option. It's also very likely that the owner and GMC are known to the local (or further) community. In many cases I wouldn't hesitate to buy a coach sight unseen if I knew, or knew of, the owner's reputation.

Please be aware that GMC owners frequently age out of ownership, they don't sell willingly (they'll be prying mine out of my cold dead hands). Those coaches might have had tons of work and large dollars spent on them, but not been used or maintained in a number of years. Approach all potentials with the assumption that they haven't been adequately maintained unless there's documentation to the contrary or the aforementioned reputable owner vouches for the work.

Good luck!

Richard


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Re: Key Questions to ask the seller: Hot on the trail for a 1974 Eleganza [message #367420 is a reply to message #367398] Sat, 30 October 2021 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My coach was represented as "only needing a little bit of carpet" ..I am still to find that "bit of carpet" needed, but everything else in the house systems was needing something!
You may as well just buy it if it's as immaculate as you say - just deal with the little things that crop up as time goes by.

Whatever questions you ask, you aren't REALLY going to know what the answers mean til you own one, so just plop down the cash and be done with it. Razz



Larry


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Re: Key Questions to ask the seller: Hot on the trail for a 1974 Eleganza [message #367421 is a reply to message #367420] Sat, 30 October 2021 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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boybach wrote on Sat, 30 October 2021 18:48
My coach was represented as "only needing a little bit of carpet" ..I am still to find that "bit of carpet" needed, but everything else in the house systems was needing something!
You may as well just buy it if it's as immaculate as you say - just deal with the little things that crop up as time goes by.

Whatever questions you ask, you aren't REALLY going to know what the answers mean til you own one, so just plop down the cash and be done with it. Razz

Larry
Larry,
For the most part I agree with you, and I think your advice is good. But I have been active in several CMC transactions and I've observed what is I think a common tendency.

I would quote Richard in a wise previous post:
"Please be aware that GMC owners frequently age out of ownership, they don't sell willingly (they'll be prying mine out of my cold dead hands)"

I have owned my coach for 25 years and it is a beloved member of our family. I have also put thousands (and more thousands) of dollars in it to update it. I struggle to remember its actual value in the current market. If the owner asking $32K isn't currently active in the GMC community they may well be pricing their coach based on their investment, sentiment and ignorance of the current market. The current market for RV's is white hot. But it is an entirely different buyer interested in a 45 year old vehicle and its maintenance.

It's just my opinion but I think the $32K coach should be road-ready and current with ethanol capable fuel system and alloy wheels with new tires. On your average used car lot "pristine" is worth several thousand dollars premium, but for a GMC Motorhome, it's what's unseen that will cost you and very possibly bite you. I would carefully balance that relatively high purchase price with the condition/quality of the running gear and would inspect the vehicle accordingly.
Just my opinion,
Doug


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Doug,

Agreed.

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 8:57 PM Douglas Smith wrote:

> boybach wrote on Sat, 30 October 2021 18:48
>> My coach was represented as "only needing a little bit of carpet" ..I am
> still to find that "bit of carpet" needed, but everything else in the
>> house systems was needing something!
>> You may as well just buy it if it's as immaculate as you say - just deal
> with the little things that crop up as time goes by.
>>
>> Whatever questions you ask, you aren't REALLY going to know what the
> answers mean til you own one, so just plop down the cash and be done with
> it.
>> :p
>>
>> Larry
>
> Larry,
> For the most part I agree with you, and I think your advice is good. But I
> have been active in several CMC transactions and I've observed what is I
> think a common tendency.
>
> I would quote Richard in a wise previous post:
> "Please be aware that GMC owners frequently age out of ownership, they
> don't sell willingly (they'll be prying mine out of my cold dead hands)"
>
> I have owned my coach for 25 years and it is a beloved member of our
> family. I have also put thousands (and more thousands) of dollars in it to
> update
> it. I struggle to remember its actual value in the current market. If the
> owner asking $32K isn't currently active in the GMC community they may well
> be pricing their coach based on their investment, sentiment and ignorance
> of the current market. The current market for RV's is white hot. But it is
> an entirely different buyer interested in a 45 year old vehicle and its
> maintenance.
>
> It's just my opinion but I think the $32K coach should be road-ready and
> current with ethanol capable fuel system and alloy wheels with new tires. On
> your average used car lot "pristine" is worth several thousand dollars
> premium, but for a GMC Motorhome, it's what's unseen that will cost you and
> very possibly bite you. I would carefully balance that relatively high
> purchase price with the condition/quality of the running gear and would
> inspect
> the vehicle accordingly.
> Just my opinion,
> Doug
>
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> dsmithy18 at gmail,
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The bit of advise I'd add is that there are some nice coaches out there for that kind of money, and you could buy one of them with very little risk (particularly if it was a "known coach" to the likes of this group).

That's not to say that the coach in question isn't a good deal, but personally (being a perpetually cheap SOB) I'd be looking for something pretty special in that price range (and wouldn't come close to selling my own coach for that kind of money).


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Adam -

Having owned and been around quite a number of GMC's over the past 10 years, I can say that buying/selling GMC's is like nothing else out there, and it is really tough to come up with questions and check lists.

This is a new thought because I just assisted a widow in selling her late Husband's GMC. What is a pride and joy to one person, maybe junk to the next. The numerous amount of systems and things going on in these coach's bumper to bumper is immense. labor to pay anybody to do any work to these is very high, and the cost to re-do something that someone else did poorly or not to your taste is also expensive and sometimes very time consuming.

When you start looking over these things, there is almost never an end to what is "wrong".... on the other hand, you can look at what is "right" and put value to that, and come up with coach values that are unaffordable.


the biggest things for these, is time flys by. Owner thinks they just did the brakes and bearings and bought new tires, but you realize that is 6 years ago. owner might say the transmission was rebuilt, but either that was ages ago, or it was just "serviced" rebuilt engines are only as good as who rebuilt them, and who took care of them. Lots of rebuilt engines have blown up on people on their drive home.

they might say "no leaks" and the coach has never driven down the road in a rainstorm.

That is some big $$ for a coach, and I would expect it to be pretty mint. but I have seen some nice $15,000 coaches that people spend $15,000 dollars on brakes, plumbing, tires, black water tank, fresh water tank. new A/C, ect... it ads up fast, especially if someone is doing the work for you. I know of a couple coaches that were dropped at a shop to have basic items done and end up with $12-$15k bills, once people start diving in.

Even my coach that i feel I have worked on almost non-stop for 10 years, still needs items. and some items I worked on 10 years ago now needs to be fixed up again.


lastly! Ask Questions! lots of money, time and a coach's future ride on the best choices made. always trust but verify information out there.



Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
[GMCnet] Re: Key Questions to ask the seller: Hot on the trail for a 1974 Eleganza [message #367438 is a reply to message #367435] Mon, 01 November 2021 15:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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For what it's worth!
I almost believe that it makes sense to buy a cosmeticly passable
coach with some known mechanical faults with the expectation of having to
repair stuff to suit your intended needs. Something like a $5000.00
drivable coach that needs $20,000.00 of sweat equity and parts. That way
you wind up with a safe, usable machine for less than the down payment of a
new RV.
I Drove by a local RV dealer's sales lot a couple of weeks ago, and
they had an Airstream tow behind trailer in the featured special spot, with
a price of $98,000.00 and change. And you provide your own Dodge Ram truck
to tow it with.
Such a deal! It was on their lot less than a week before someone
parted with enough bucks to tow it off.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021, 1:33 PM Jon Roche wrote:

> Adam -
>
> Having owned and been around quite a number of GMC's over the past 10
> years, I can say that buying/selling GMC's is like nothing else out there,
> and
> it is really tough to come up with questions and check lists.
>
> This is a new thought because I just assisted a widow in selling her late
> Husband's GMC. What is a pride and joy to one person, maybe junk to the
> next. The numerous amount of systems and things going on in these
> coach's bumper to bumper is immense. labor to pay anybody to do any work
> to
> these is very high, and the cost to re-do something that someone else did
> poorly or not to your taste is also expensive and sometimes very time
> consuming.
>
> When you start looking over these things, there is almost never an end to
> what is "wrong".... on the other hand, you can look at what is "right" and
> put value to that, and come up with coach values that are unaffordable.
>
>
> the biggest things for these, is time flys by. Owner thinks they just
> did the brakes and bearings and bought new tires, but you realize that is 6
> years ago. owner might say the transmission was rebuilt, but either
> that was ages ago, or it was just "serviced" rebuilt engines are only as
> good as who rebuilt them, and who took care of them. Lots of rebuilt
> engines have blown up on people on their drive home.
>
> they might say "no leaks" and the coach has never driven down the road in
> a rainstorm.
>
> That is some big $$ for a coach, and I would expect it to be pretty mint.
> but I have seen some nice $15,000 coaches that people spend $15,000
> dollars on brakes, plumbing, tires, black water tank, fresh water tank.
> new A/C, ect... it ads up fast, especially if someone is doing the work for
> you. I know of a couple coaches that were dropped at a shop to have
> basic items done and end up with $12-$15k bills, once people start diving
> in.
>
> Even my coach that i feel I have worked on almost non-stop for 10 years,
> still needs items. and some items I worked on 10 years ago now needs to be
> fixed up again.
>
>
> lastly! Ask Questions! lots of money, time and a coach's future ride on
> the best choices made. always trust but verify information out there.
>
>
> --
> Jon Roche
> 75 palm beach
> EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
> St. Cloud, MN
> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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Re: [GMCnet] Re: Key Questions to ask the seller: Hot on the trail for a 1974 Eleganza [message #367440 is a reply to message #367438] Mon, 01 November 2021 16:11 Go to previous message
lqqkatjon is currently offline  lqqkatjon   United States
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That is the truth! We have the cheapest RV on the market by 10's of thousands of dollars. The only issue with the GMC is I don't know of any extended warrantees. but we are also not sitting at home paying a payment while our RV is at the RV place waiting for months to have them fix whatever went bad under warrantee. That is if they can get the part.


they were claiming they had a shortage of RV's to sell. I noticed our local RV sale center seems to have a pretty full lot when I stopped there Saturday to buy a tube of lap sealant. What I found out is 75% of those units sitting in the lot are now on the service shops roster for warrantee work. now that our MN RV season is over, they all brought them in to get the stuff fixed!



Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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