| Airbag Replacement [message #172527] |
Thu, 07 June 2012 23:36  |
grif339
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Me again with another question. With the other repairs I need to make I don't want to spend a big chunk right now on an upgraded replacement airbag system and just want to replace the existing W01-358-9294 bags. A local vendor crossed the number over to a Triangle AS-8423 (I have a drawing of this but it's too big to upload here and I can't get it to show up on gmcphotos.com either) Anyhow, my question is; the air fill side of this replacement bag, as well as most of the others I've found is different than the original. Mine have a threaded stud on each end, these all have one threaded stud on one side, and two seperate fittings on the fill side. Is there an adapter plate or something I can buy to make this work or am I missing something? My company does quite a bit of business with this vendor so he said he would sell them to me for $105 each, which is great if it would work. Thanks again
Kelly G
75 Eleganza II
Central Iowa
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| Re: Airbag Replacement [message #172530 is a reply to message #172527] |
Thu, 07 June 2012 23:47  |
Ken Burton
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I wish there was a picture somewhere on the Internet we could look at. Without seeing it, it is very difficult to visualize what you are trying to make work.
Ken B.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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| Re: [GMCnet] Airbag Replacement [message #172534 is a reply to message #172527] |
Thu, 07 June 2012 23:54 |
sgltrac
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The 9294 is not the original airbag. The original is no longer available new. I make an airbag system very similar to the oem system which uses the 9294 Firestone airbag. I would not recommend the triangle version as it has not been tested with my system nor any other system to my knowledge. Some have purchased my system and had clearance issues to the inner fender well. All but one with this issue has substituted Airtech airbags rather than the Firestone to save a few bucks. The Airtech bags run wider by 1/2" diameter which creates a clearance issue. I dont know what differences there are between the Firestone and triangle airbags and don't care too much to find out. Sometimes going too cheap is just too costly. Check out the different airbag systems available and look at the specs carefully. There is a comparison spreadsheet out here somewhere. May e someone will reply with it. Check out my system here.
Www.bdub.net/sully/
Sully
77 royale
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On Jun 7, 2012, at 9:36 PM, Kelly <grif339@msn.com> wrote:
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> Me again with another question. With the other repairs I need to make I don't want to spend a big chunk right now on an upgraded replacement airbag system and just want to replace the existing W01-358-9294 bags. A local vendor crossed the number over to a Triangle AS-8423 (I have a drawing of this but it's too big to upload here and I can't get it to show up on gmcphotos.com either) Anyhow, my question is; the air fill side of this replacement bag, as well as most of the others I've found is different than the original. Mine have a threaded stud on each end, these all have one threaded stud on one side, and two seperate fittings on the fill side. Is there an adapter plate or something I can buy to make this work or am I missing something? My company does quite a bit of business with this vendor so he said he would sell them to me for $105 each, which is great if it would work. Thanks again
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> 75 Eleganza II
> Central Iowa
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| Re: [GMCnet] Airbag Replacement [message #172537 is a reply to message #172533] |
Fri, 08 June 2012 00:11 |
sgltrac
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Neither the triangle or the Firestone of the part number you listed are the original airbag. On my website there is a picture of the original and the 9294 side by side.
Sully
77 royale
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On Jun 7, 2012, at 9:58 PM, Kelly <grif339@msn.com> wrote:
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> Okay, the drawing at http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/w01-358-9294-firestone-air-spring-sleeve-style looks identical to the Triangle drawing I was referring to in my original post. Am I not seeing this correctly? To me the the airbag looks like there are two fittings in the top of the picture and no threaded stud? Also, is it necessary to replace the cones that I currently have? They appear to be in good shape based on my limited knowledge.
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> 75 Eleganza II
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| Re: Airbag Replacement [message #172538 is a reply to message #172527] |
Fri, 08 June 2012 00:22 |
bwevers
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According to Firestone, there are two threaded studs
at the top of the airbag. One is 3/4-16 with a hole for
inflation. The other stud is 1/2-13. You need the Sully
brackets to mount this airbag.
Bill Wevers GMC49ers, GMC Western States
1975 Glenbrook - Manny Powerdrive, OneTon
455 F Block, G heads
San Jose
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| Re: [GMCnet] Airbag Replacement [message #172543 is a reply to message #172527] |
Fri, 08 June 2012 05:16 |
Mr ERFisher
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here is a link to the spread sheet that compares the airbag / systems.
http://goo.gl/Fdqjj
this link shows a lilnk to the newest version of the spread sheet. go to
the lilnk shown if you can read a spread sheet. There are several "bolt
on" bag replacements. All of the new systems are shown on this
gmcphotostore album so you can look at them
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HERE is a link to the FIRESTONE information on the OEM air bag
http://gmcmotorhome.info/rear.html#BAGS
go to the links to see how to age your bags, and what can cause problems
(but no dimensions ;>)
gene
gene
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Kelly <grif339@msn.com> wrote:
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> Me again with another question. With the other repairs I need to make I
> don't want to spend a big chunk right now on an upgraded replacement airbag
> system and just want to replace the existing W01-358-9294 bags. A local
> vendor crossed the number over to a Triangle AS-8423 (I have a drawing of
> this but it's too big to upload here and I can't get it to show up on
> gmcphotos.com either) Anyhow, my question is; the air fill side of this
> replacement bag, as well as most of the others I've found is different than
> the original. Mine have a threaded stud on each end, these all have one
> threaded stud on one side, and two seperate fittings on the fill side. Is
> there an adapter plate or something I can buy to make this work or am I
> missing something? My company does quite a bit of business with this vendor
> so he said he would sell them to me for $105 each, which is great if it
> would work. Thanks again
> --
> Kelly G
> 75 Eleganza II
> Central Iowa
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| Re: [GMCnet] Airbag Replacement [message #172556 is a reply to message #172534] |
Fri, 08 June 2012 08:23 |
powerjon
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The original Firestone air bag that is used on our coach is still
available new, but is not a good choice dollar wise and only available
from a few sources. Sully's replacement air bag mounts and the 9294
Firestone air bags cost less (about $700) for both sides complete,
than a single new original Firestone air bag (around $800). The
choice is your, but I vote for the Sullybilt system. Best bang for
the buck and it works well.
JR Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMC Eastern States
GMCMHI
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
> The 9294 is not the original airbag. The original is no longer
> available new. I make an airbag system very similar to the oem
> system which uses the 9294 Firestone airbag. I would not recommend
> the triangle version as it has not been tested with my system nor
> any other system to my knowledge. Some have purchased my system and
> had clearance issues to the inner fender well. All but one with this
> issue has substituted Airtech airbags rather than the Firestone to
> save a few bucks. The Airtech bags run wider by 1/2" diameter which
> creates a clearance issue. I dont know what differences there are
> between the Firestone and triangle airbags and don't care too much
> to find out. Sometimes going too cheap is just too costly. Check out
> the different airbag systems available and look at the specs
> carefully. There is a comparison spreadsheet out here somewhere. May
> e someone will reply with it. Check out my system here.
>
> Www.bdub.net/sully/
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> Sully
> 77 royale
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Me again with another question. With the other repairs I need to
>> make I don't want to spend a big chunk right now on an upgraded
>> replacement airbag system and just want to replace the existing
>> W01-358-9294 bags. A local vendor crossed the number over to a
>> Triangle AS-8423 (I have a drawing of this but it's too big to
>> upload here and I can't get it to show up on gmcphotos.com either)
>> Anyhow, my question is; the air fill side of this replacement bag,
>> as well as most of the others I've found is different than the
>> original. Mine have a threaded stud on each end, these all have one
>> threaded stud on one side, and two seperate fittings on the fill
>> side. Is there an adapter plate or something I can buy to make this
>> work or am I missing something? My company does quite a bit of
>> business with this vendor so he said he would sell them to me for
>> $105 each, which is great if it would work. Thanks again
>> --
>> Kelly G
>> 75 Eleganza II
>> Central Iowa
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| Re: [GMCnet] Airbag Replacement [message #172558 is a reply to message #172553] |
Fri, 08 June 2012 08:39 |
grif339
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After looking at that picture, I do have an OEM system. Now it makes sense to me why I couldn't find this type of airbag. Looks like I'll be doing the upgrade too. Thanks
Kelly G
75 Eleganza II
Central Iowa
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| Re: [GMCnet] Airbag Replacement [message #172562 is a reply to message #172558] |
Fri, 08 June 2012 09:06 |
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You're welcome.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly
After looking at that picture, I do have an OEM system. Now it makes sense
to me why I couldn't find this type of airbag. Looks like I'll be doing the
upgrade too. Thanks
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Kelly
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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