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Re: [GMCnet] NEW SULLYBUILT BRACKETS WITH AIR BAGS [message #158201] Fri, 27 January 2012 11:12 Go to next message
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Mark G has posted measurement specs for his original design including a picture of the plate drawing. The Sullybilt system is similar with a few key changes in design. Info on the Sullybilt system can be found on my website. www.bdub.net/sully/ The spec sheet for the firestone spring is there as well. If you are searching for the spring, www.truckspring.com has them available.
In speaking with engineers at Firestone I was informed that this spring is demand built meaning that they are not produced until an order is placed. They will tell you to expect to wait up to three weeks but I had mine in less than two. I like the idea of a fresh born airbag. Worth a little wait to me.
I have stated in earlier e-mails on this forum that I approve of personal individual reproduction of my design for personal use. This is a hat tip to the weekend warrior shade tree fabricator as I consider myself one. If you have questions, don't hesitate to contact me.

Sully
77 royale
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I've looked on ebay and the airspring site, and can't find specifics (part #'s) on the sully built bags. These sound like a good replacement. Would any one have the specs on building the brackets. Sorry if all this was once posted and I missed it.

I had considered the quad bag set up, but have heard it rides quite stiff and rough. And then there is the cost.

Any opinions from quad bag owners would be appreciated.

Thanks.
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Re: [GMCnet] NEW SULLYBUILT BRACKETS WITH AIR BAGS [message #158205 is a reply to message #158201] Fri, 27 January 2012 11:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What company built our original air bags? Wasn't it Firestone?

If so, why couldn't they build exact duplicates upon demand?

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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> To: gmclist-AT-temp-DOT-gmcnet-DOT-org
> From: sgltrac-AT-gmail-DOT-com
> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:12:51 +0000
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] NEW SULLYBUILT BRACKETS WITH AIR BAGS
>
> Mark G has posted measurement specs for his original design including a picture of the plate drawing. The Sullybilt system is similar with a few key changes in design. Info on the Sullybilt system can be found on my website. www.bdub.net/sully/ The spec sheet for the firestone spring is there as well. If you are searching for the spring, www.truckspring.com has them available.
> In speaking with engineers at Firestone I was informed that this spring is demand built meaning that they are not produced until an order is placed. They will tell you to expect to wait up to three weeks but I had mine in less than two. I like the idea of a fresh born airbag. Worth a little wait to me.
> I have stated in earlier e-mails on this forum that I approve of personal individual reproduction of my design for personal use. This is a hat tip to the weekend warrior shade tree fabricator as I consider myself one. If you have questions, don't hesitate to contact me.
>
> Sully
> 77 royale

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Re: [GMCnet] NEW SULLYBUILT BRACKETS WITH AIR BAGS [message #158211 is a reply to message #158205] Fri, 27 January 2012 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Firestone built the original bags. I asked the engineer the same question and the first response was all of the unique tooling required. The second was demand.

Sully
77 royale
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From: D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk-AT-hotmail-DOT-com>
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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:43:44
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What company built our original air bags? Wasn't it Firestone?

If so, why couldn't they build exact duplicates upon demand?

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
_______________
*[ ]....[][ ][]\
*--OO---[]---O-*




> To: gmclist-AT-temp-DOT-gmcnet-DOT-org
> From: sgltrac-AT-gmail-DOT-com
> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:12:51 +0000
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] NEW SULLYBUILT BRACKETS WITH AIR BAGS
>
> Mark G has posted measurement specs for his original design including a picture of the plate drawing. The Sullybilt system is similar with a few key changes in design. Info on the Sullybilt system can be found on my website. www.bdub.net/sully/ The spec sheet for the firestone spring is there as well. If you are searching for the spring, www.truckspring.com has them available.
> In speaking with engineers at Firestone I was informed that this spring is demand built meaning that they are not produced until an order is placed. They will tell you to expect to wait up to three weeks but I had mine in less than two. I like the idea of a fresh born airbag. Worth a little wait to me.
> I have stated in earlier e-mails on this forum that I approve of personal individual reproduction of my design for personal use. This is a hat tip to the weekend warrior shade tree fabricator as I consider myself one. If you have questions, don't hesitate to contact me.
>
> Sully
> 77 royale

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Re: [GMCnet] NEW SULLYBUILT BRACKETS WITH AIR BAGS [message #158218 is a reply to message #158211] Fri, 27 January 2012 16:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The person that owns the Google Docs listing of the various airspring
replacement systems should edit the document to list Sully's system. Sully,
you should provide information whoever the dude is.

As to ride -- it depends on what you want. Firmer or softer and whether
you're always towing a vehicle or not. Some people like riding on rails and
other like riding the waves.

--

Byron Songer
Louisville, KY
http://www.gmceast.com

Sights to see and places to stay
Find or submit a
GMCer recommendation
http://www.gmceast.com/travel



sgltrac-AT-gmail-DOT-com wrote:

> Firestone built the original bags. I asked the engineer the same question and
> the first response was all of the unique tooling required. The second was
> demand.
>
> Sully
> 77 royale
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sender: gmclist-bounces-AT-temp-DOT-gmcnet-DOT-org
> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:43:44
> To: <gmclist-AT-temp-DOT-gmcnet-DOT-org>
> Reply-To: gmclist-AT-temp-DOT-gmcnet-DOT-org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] NEW SULLYBUILT BRACKETS WITH AIR BAGS
>
>
> What company built our original air bags? Wasn't it Firestone?
>
> If so, why couldn't they build exact duplicates upon demand?
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> _______________
> *[ ]....[][ ][]\
> *--OO---[]---O-*
>
>
>
>
>> To: gmclist-AT-temp-DOT-gmcnet-DOT-org
>> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:12:51 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] NEW SULLYBUILT BRACKETS WITH AIR BAGS
>>
>> Mark G has posted measurement specs for his original design including a
>> picture of the plate drawing. The Sullybilt system is similar with a few key
>> changes in design. Info on the Sullybilt system can be found on my website.
>> www.bdub.net/sully/ The spec sheet for the firestone spring is there as well.
>> If you are searching for the spring, www.truckspring.com has them available.
>> In speaking with engineers at Firestone I was informed that this spring is
>> demand built meaning that they are not produced until an order is placed.
>> They will tell you to expect to wait up to three weeks but I had mine in less
>> than two. I like the idea of a fresh born airbag. Worth a little wait to me.
>> I have stated in earlier e-mails on this forum that I approve of personal
>> individual reproduction of my design for personal use. This is a hat tip to
>> the weekend warrior shade tree fabricator as I consider myself one. If you
>> have questions, don't hesitate to contact me.
>>
>> Sully
>> 77 royale
>
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Re: [GMCnet] NEW SULLYBUILT BRACKETS WITH AIR BAGS [message #158221 is a reply to message #158218] Fri, 27 January 2012 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Byron,

I originally thought it to be Rob M who did the air bag comparison sheet but he corrected me. I know not who it was but am happy to supply data.

Sully
77 royale
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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:27:51
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Reply-To: gmclist-AT-temp-DOT-gmcnet-DOT-org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] NEW SULLYBUILT BRACKETS WITH AIR BAGS

The person that owns the Google Docs listing of the various airspring
replacement systems should edit the document to list Sully's system. Sully,
you should provide information whoever the dude is.

As to ride -- it depends on what you want. Firmer or softer and whether
you're always towing a vehicle or not. Some people like riding on rails and
other like riding the waves.

--

Byron Songer
Louisville, KY
http://www.gmceast.com

Sights to see and places to stay
Find or submit a
GMCer recommendation
http://www.gmceast.com/travel



sgltrac-AT-gmail-DOT-com wrote:

> Firestone built the original bags. I asked the engineer the same question and
> the first response was all of the unique tooling required. The second was
> demand.
>
> Sully
> 77 royale
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sender: gmclist-bounces-AT-temp-DOT-gmcnet-DOT-org
> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:43:44
> To: <gmclist-AT-temp-DOT-gmcnet-DOT-org>
> Reply-To: gmclist-AT-temp-DOT-gmcnet-DOT-org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] NEW SULLYBUILT BRACKETS WITH AIR BAGS
>
>
> What company built our original air bags? Wasn't it Firestone?
>
> If so, why couldn't they build exact duplicates upon demand?
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> _______________
> *[ ]....[][ ][]\
> *--OO---[]---O-*
>
>
>
>
>> To: gmclist-AT-temp-DOT-gmcnet-DOT-org
>> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:12:51 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] NEW SULLYBUILT BRACKETS WITH AIR BAGS
>>
>> Mark G has posted measurement specs for his original design including a
>> picture of the plate drawing. The Sullybilt system is similar with a few key
>> changes in design. Info on the Sullybilt system can be found on my website.
>> www.bdub.net/sully/ The spec sheet for the firestone spring is there as well.
>> If you are searching for the spring, www.truckspring.com has them available.
>> In speaking with engineers at Firestone I was informed that this spring is
>> demand built meaning that they are not produced until an order is placed.
>> They will tell you to expect to wait up to three weeks but I had mine in less
>> than two. I like the idea of a fresh born airbag. Worth a little wait to me.
>> I have stated in earlier e-mails on this forum that I approve of personal
>> individual reproduction of my design for personal use. This is a hat tip to
>> the weekend warrior shade tree fabricator as I consider myself one. If you
>> have questions, don't hesitate to contact me.
>>
>> Sully
>> 77 royale
>
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Re: [GMCnet] NEW SULLYBUILT BRACKETS WITH AIR BAGS [message #158223 is a reply to message #158221] Fri, 27 January 2012 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,

It was Andrew that put the spreadsheet together, see new Suspension System Comparison message. He hasn't posted since October,
hopefully he's OK. I sent him a PM asking him to take the credit!

Regards,
Rob M.

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Byron,

I originally thought it to be Rob M who did the air bag comparison sheet but he corrected me. I know not who it was but am happy to
supply data.

Sully
77 royale
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Re: [GMCnet] NEW SULLYBUILT BRACKETS WITH AIR BAGS [message #158259 is a reply to message #158223] Fri, 27 January 2012 23:04 Go to previous message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Fri, 27 January 2012 18:43


It was Andrew that put the spreadsheet together, see new Suspension System Comparison message. He hasn't posted since October,
hopefully he's OK. I sent him a PM asking him to take the credit!



Thanks for the message. It got me off my duff to bring the spreadsheet up to date with all that I could find. As for credit, I'm just the scribe. All the work was done by others.

It looks like most of the popular systems have had price drops in the last six months. And I've added Sully's, of course.

"Sully wrote"


I originally thought it to be Rob M who did the air bag comparison sheet but he corrected me. I know not who it was but am happy to
supply data.



Sully, take a look and let me know if I've captured your system properly. I found the airbags for $140 online, and I used the price for the painted steel brackets, since that's the most directly comparable to the others.

Thanks!
Andrew


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