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| [GMCnet] Tolls & Axle was Hensley GMC Motorhome Airbag Solution [message #118395] |
Fri, 11 March 2011 06:04  |
David L Greenberg
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:20:17 -0600 Frank Condos <fcondos@sti.net> writes:
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> the two vs three axle question did become an issue in California
> back a few years when the State limited 3 axle vehicles to 55 mph.
> GMCs were able to get an exemption I think with the help of Wes
> Caughlin. Today that exemption is still recognized. It does not
> work on the tolls though. Most toll stations use wheel counters.
> The toll takers have to reconcile to the wheel count. It's not
> worth the hassle to wait for the CHP office and have him call his
> supervisor to research the finding.
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> Just what I think I know
> Frank Condos
> Ahwahnee, CA
> 73 Glacier under construction
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I recall the time Dallas Jensen (google 'dallas jensen +me and my
shadow') or http://www.bdub.net/GMCLinks.html went to battle with the
Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel Authority, or the like, and won. But as
Frank states above, the toll takers aren't motivated to check the
instructions. Dallas made large sized copies of a GMC and had them posted
at each toll booth. I suspect those have become dog-eared, lost, etc.
David Lee Greenberg
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tolls & Axle was Hensley GMC Motorhome Airbag Solution [message #118401 is a reply to message #118395] |
Fri, 11 March 2011 07:48  |
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David,
Found Dallas's "blog" and read the last couple; interesting, looks like he
was Dan & Teri Greggs predecessor! ;-)
I was most impressed with the picture of his coach - it was right hand
drive! ;-)
Having said all this I may be thick ('er I am thick) but I really would like
to know why a GMC with six wheels would be considered to have two axles!
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Subject: [GMCnet] Tolls & Axle was Hensley GMC Motorhome Airbag Solution
I recall the time Dallas Jensen (google 'dallas jensen +me and my
shadow') or http://www.bdub.net/GMCLinks.html went to battle with the
Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel Authority, or the like, and won. But as
Frank states above, the toll takers aren't motivated to check the
instructions. Dallas made large sized copies of a GMC and had them posted
at each toll booth. I suspect those have become dog-eared, lost, etc.
David Lee Greenberg
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'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tolls & Axle was Hensley GMC Motorhome Airbag Solution [message #118406 is a reply to message #118395] |
Fri, 11 March 2011 08:50 |
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Rob -- it depends on the state's legal definition of axles. For example, if you use a definition of axles as transverse wheels mechanically connected, then the GMC only has 1. If you use a different definition, for example any pair of transverse wheels, then the GMC has 3. If you define axle as a shaft on which a wheel rotates, then a GMC has 5 (the drive wheels are on the same shaft, which is the key to the definition). You'd have to sort out the legal definitions for each state, but I believe FL, at least when I bought my GMC, used the first definition, transverse wheels mechancially connected. That would lead to a much lower toll. It's also the reason why motorcycles are mentioned as a separate legal category despite being charged the same as a car, no transverse wheels = no axles = no tolls.
I figured it was worth arguing at 1 tollbooth and I lost. I have since stopped bothering. I use the roads, I shouldn't mind paying for them. Or at least that's what I tell myself. Luckily AL does not create the same problem. Haven't found a toll road in the entire state yet.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tolls & Axle was Hensley GMC Motorhome Airbag Solution [message #118408 is a reply to message #118401] |
Fri, 11 March 2011 09:02 |
storm'n
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Rob.
I think that pic. was a mirror image.
Norm
David,
Found Dallas's "blog" and read the last couple; interesting, looks like he
was Dan & Teri Greggs predecessor! ;-)
I was most impressed with the picture of his coach - it was right hand
drive! ;-)
Having said all this I may be thick ('er I am thick) but I really would like
to know why a GMC with six wheels would be considered to have two axles!
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Subject: [GMCnet] Tolls & Axle was Hensley GMC Motorhome Airbag Solution
I recall the time Dallas Jensen (google 'dallas jensen +me and my
shadow') or http://www.bdub.net/GMCLinks.html went to battle with the
Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel Authority, or the like, and won. But as
Frank states above, the toll takers aren't motivated to check the
instructions. Dallas made large sized copies of a GMC and had them posted
at each toll booth. I suspect those have become dog-eared, lost, etc.
David Lee Greenberg
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tolls & Axle was Hensley GMC Motorhome Airbag [message #118451 is a reply to message #118395] |
Fri, 11 March 2011 14:57 |
Gary Casey
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I read the legal definition used on E-470 in Denver - it said something to the
effect that the "number of axles" is the "number of wheels seen when looking at
the vehicle from the side." Not a good way to argue out of that one. They must
know all about GM Motorhomes and the cheapskates that drive them :-(
Gary Casey
Rob -- it depends on the state's legal definition of axles. For example, if
you use a definition of axles as transverse wheels mechanically connected, then
the GMC only has 1. If you use a different definition, for example any pair of
transverse wheels, then the GMC has 3. If you define axle as a shaft on which a
wheel rotates, then a GMC has 5 (the drive wheels are on the same shaft, which
is the key to the definition). You'd have to sort out the legal definitions for
each state, but I believe FL, at least when I bought my GMC, used the first
definition, transverse wheels mechancially connected. That would lead to a much
lower toll. It's also the reason why motorcycles are mentioned as a separate
legal category despite being charged the same as a car, no transverse wheels =
no axles = no tolls.
I figured it was worth arguing at 1 tollbooth and I lost. I have since stopped
bothering. I use the roads, I shouldn't mind paying for them. Or at least
that's what I tell myself. Luckily AL does not create the same problem. Haven't
found a toll road in the entire state yet.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tolls & Axle was Hensley GMC Motorhome Airbag [message #118454 is a reply to message #118451] |
Fri, 11 March 2011 16:39 |
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My parents have a 40 foot diesel pusher Foretravel wirh six 22 or
22-1/2" wheels but the four on the rear are duals so even they weigh
probably more than twice my GMC they can get through the toll booth
and travel on toll roads for a lot less than I can.
Life is not fair, is it? :). :)
Emery Stora
On Mar 11, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Gary Casey <casey.gary@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I read the legal definition used on E-470 in Denver - it said
> something to the
> effect that the "number of axles" is the "number of wheels seen when
> looking at
> the vehicle from the side." Not a good way to argue out of that
> one. They must
> know all about GM Motorhomes and the cheapskates that drive them :-(
> Gary Casey
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> Rob -- it depends on the state's legal definition of axles. For
> example, if
> you use a definition of axles as transverse wheels mechanically
> connected, then
> the GMC only has 1. If you use a different definition, for example
> any pair of
> transverse wheels, then the GMC has 3. If you define axle as a
> shaft on which a
> wheel rotates, then a GMC has 5 (the drive wheels are on the same
> shaft, which
> is the key to the definition). You'd have to sort out the legal
> definitions for
> each state, but I believe FL, at least when I bought my GMC, used
> the first
> definition, transverse wheels mechancially connected. That would
> lead to a much
> lower toll. It's also the reason why motorcycles are mentioned as a
> separate
> legal category despite being charged the same as a car, no
> transverse wheels =
> no axles = no tolls.
>
>
> I figured it was worth arguing at 1 tollbooth and I lost. I have
> since stopped
> bothering. I use the roads, I shouldn't mind paying for them. Or at
> least
> that's what I tell myself. Luckily AL does not create the same
> problem. Haven't
> found a toll road in the entire state yet.
> --
> Thanks,
> Jeremy Knezek
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tolls & Axle was Hensley GMC Motorhome Airbag Solution [message #118458 is a reply to message #118406] |
Fri, 11 March 2011 17:17 |
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Jeremy,
Got it!
Thanks,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Tolls & Axle was Hensley GMC Motorhome Airbag Solution
Rob -- it depends on the state's legal definition of axles. For example, if
you use a definition of axles as transverse wheels mechanically connected,
then the GMC only has 1. If you use a different definition, for example any
pair of transverse wheels, then the GMC has 3. If you define axle as a shaft
on which a wheel rotates, then a GMC has 5 (the drive wheels are on the same
shaft, which is the key to the definition). You'd have to sort out the legal
definitions for each state, but I believe FL, at least when I bought my GMC,
used the first definition, transverse wheels mechancially connected. That
would lead to a much lower toll. It's also the reason why motorcycles are
mentioned as a separate legal category despite being charged the same as a
car, no transverse wheels = no axles = no tolls.
I figured it was worth arguing at 1 tollbooth and I lost. I have since
stopped bothering. I use the roads, I shouldn't mind paying for them. Or at
least that's what I tell myself. Luckily AL does not create the same
problem. Haven't found a toll road in the entire state yet.
--
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tolls & Axle was Hensley GMC Motorhome Airbag [message #118471 is a reply to message #118451] |
Fri, 11 March 2011 19:24 |
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Come on!
Enought is enought.
Give it a rest.
Thank You
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Casey" <casey.gary@yahoo.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Tolls & Axle was Hensley GMC Motorhome Airbag
>I read the legal definition used on E-470 in Denver - it said something to
>the
> effect that the "number of axles" is the "number of wheels seen when
> looking at
> the vehicle from the side." Not a good way to argue out of that one.
> They must
> know all about GM Motorhomes and the cheapskates that drive them :-(
> Gary Casey
>
>
>
> Rob -- it depends on the state's legal definition of axles. For example,
> if
> you use a definition of axles as transverse wheels mechanically
> connected, then
> the GMC only has 1. If you use a different definition, for example any
> pair of
> transverse wheels, then the GMC has 3. If you define axle as a shaft on
> which a
> wheel rotates, then a GMC has 5 (the drive wheels are on the same shaft,
> which
> is the key to the definition). You'd have to sort out the legal
> definitions for
> each state, but I believe FL, at least when I bought my GMC, used the
> first
> definition, transverse wheels mechancially connected. That would lead to
> a much
> lower toll. It's also the reason why motorcycles are mentioned as a
> separate
> legal category despite being charged the same as a car, no transverse
> wheels =
> no axles = no tolls.
>
>
> I figured it was worth arguing at 1 tollbooth and I lost. I have since
> stopped
> bothering. I use the roads, I shouldn't mind paying for them. Or at least
> that's what I tell myself. Luckily AL does not create the same problem.
> Haven't
> found a toll road in the entire state yet.
> --
> Thanks,
> Jeremy Knezek
>
>
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tolls & Axle was Hensley GMC Motorhome Airbag [message #118511 is a reply to message #118454] |
Sat, 12 March 2011 08:13 |
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It makes a difference getting around the ordinances for the county where I
live.
One can have a medium truck parked behind the setback of the house if you
have a lot of 20,000 square feet or less. A self-propelled RV is considered
to be a medium truck. However, the zoning ordinances do not permit a large
truck on a lot of any size in a residential area. A large truck has three
axles. So, my Holiday Rambler (at 20,000 pounds and 37 feet) can stay but
the GMC (at 12,000 pounds and 26 feet) has to go.
The neighbors didn't complain about the size of the GMC since it looks just
a bit bigger than a van. They bitterly complained about the HR. They'll tell
you life isn't fair because the one they don't like is the one that gets to
stay on my corner lot with the pad behind the setback of the garage on the
side street.
Some people have a hard time making laws fit the intent.
Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
Emery Stora wrote:
> My parents have a 40 foot diesel pusher Foretravel wirh six 22 or
> 22-1/2" wheels but the four on the rear are duals so even they weigh
> probably more than twice my GMC they can get through the toll booth
> and travel on toll roads for a lot less than I can.
>
> Life is not fair, is it? :). :)
>
> Emery Stora
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| GMC Tolls+ [message #118516 is a reply to message #118395] |
Sat, 12 March 2011 09:43 |
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A proposal:
Let us get the discounts we deserve under the myriad of laws using a 50-state catalog/database of the relevant statutes that we can show to the toll trolls. This may be simultaneously-
* Carried in our laptops
* Accessed online
* Printed in a single or multiple sheets at a time to suite regional travel
* As an all-inclusive catalog of all states regulations.
Online access could be controlled to member/non-member accounts with as little or as much information as determined by the hosts (us).
This type of thing could also be used to publish our brain trust of experience-proven technical data - complete with pictures - and could accommodate member's annotations.
I use FileMaker Pro for a relational database and can easily put together a portable catalog of pictures showing scanned images & documents and is searchable, sortable, etc. and can distribute it as a standalone application (no license required).
Didn't I read some time ago that Dan does FMP too? I have always thought that we (as a community) could use such a database as a collective technical library; this could be available on a subscription basis on the web and/or carried on our laptops and distributed via CD/DVD and updated online.
Think of all of the questions for noobs that could be answered quickly and consistently. This is a forward-looking concept for when our generations pass the torch, we can be assured that future generations will have the resources we enjoy today.
Mark Scoble, Lunenburg, MA - 1973 23' Palm Beach Stretched to 32' and in residence at the GMC Co-Op in Orlando, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Tolls+ [message #118538 is a reply to message #118516] |
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Mark,
Let's speak in code.
I don't think Dan knows what FMP Advanced is but I sure do. I've been a
developer for quite some time. Of course, I knew FileMaker when it was
marketed by Forethought which was before the breakup and Microsoft buying
PowerPoint from them. Before that is was Nutshell marketed by Nashoba.
Before that Wang believed that his word processor environment was all anyone
needed and Bill Gates thought no one would ever need more that 640 mb or
RAM.
I'd love to get to the developer conference in August since I've missed the
last two years. The rumors on 12 are interesting.
Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
Mark Scoble wrote:
>
>
> A proposal:
>
> Let us get the discounts we deserve under the myriad of laws using a 50-state
> catalog/database of the relevant statutes that we can show to the toll trolls.
> This may be simultaneously-
> * Carried in our laptops
> * Accessed online
> * Printed in a single or multiple sheets at a time to suite regional travel
> * As an all-inclusive catalog of all states regulations.
>
> Online access could be controlled to member/non-member accounts with as little
> or as much information as determined by the hosts (us).
>
> This type of thing could also be used to publish our brain trust of
> experience-proven technical data - complete with pictures - and could
> accommodate member's annotations.
>
> I use FileMaker Pro for a relational database and can easily put together a
> portable catalog of pictures showing scanned images & documents and is
> searchable, sortable, etc. and can distribute it as a standalone application
> (no license required).
>
> Didn't I read some time ago that Dan does FMP too? I have always thought that
> we (as a community) could use such a database as a collective technical
> library; this could be available on a subscription basis on the web and/or
> carried on our laptops and distributed via CD/DVD and updated online.
>
> Think of all of the questions for noobs that could be answered quickly and
> consistently. This is a forward-looking concept for when our generations pass
> the torch, we can be assured that future generations will have the resources
> we enjoy today.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tolls & Axle was Hensley GMC Motorhome Airbag Solution [message #118551 is a reply to message #118548] |
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You're correct. 640K. Like other old farts, I've forgotten a lot about the
kilobyte days. Kilobits, too.
Yes, the space shuttle computers had less than 64K.
As far as I know it's the wheels touching the ground that count.
Byron
Bruce Hislop wrote:
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> I thought it was 640K of memory Bill Gates thought was way more than enough.
> I believe that was more than the original Space Shuttle computers had.
>
> It now takes several hundred Mbs of program to get a windoze computer to
> display "Hello World".
>
> I'm not up on toll roads, so tell me... does an empty transport truck pay the
> same toll charges as a loaded one?
>
> What about raised axles? do they count at the toll booth?
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tolls & Axle was Hensley GMC Motorhome Airbag Solution [message #118556 is a reply to message #118551] |
Sat, 12 March 2011 16:53 |
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If only wheels of an axel on the ground count, then a quadra-bag system designed to temporarily lift a wheel off the ground when pulling up to a toll both would really be a cost saver and make the system even more appealing even though I would lose on some of the extreme leveling needs when dry camping.
We could even just lift the one side visible to the toll troll.<g>
| Byron Songer wrote on Sat, 12 March 2011 16:51 |
You're correct. 640K. Like other old farts, I've forgotten a lot about the
kilobyte days. Kilobits, too.
Yes, the space shuttle computers had less than 64K.
As far as I know it's the wheels touching the ground that count.
Byron
Bruce Hislop wrote:
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>
> I thought it was 640K of memory Bill Gates thought was way more than enough.
> I believe that was more than the original Space Shuttle computers had.
>
> It now takes several hundred Mbs of program to get a windoze computer to
> display "Hello World".
>
> I'm not up on toll roads, so tell me... does an empty transport truck pay the
> same toll charges as a loaded one?
>
> What about raised axles? do they count at the toll booth?
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tolls & Axle was Hensley GMC Motorhome Airbag Solution [message #118558 is a reply to message #118395] |
Sat, 12 March 2011 16:59 |
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Rodney:
Lift one wheel? ONLY one wheel? Why not both and see what that ladder frame can really do!
Byron:
So you're the one! Yep, I first used FileMaker II on a Mac SE30 - and loved it. Fast-forward several years of development and personally contributing many suggestions, I find it really has stayed ahead of the curve. Its my personal Oracle (>g<).
Mark Scoble, Lunenburg, MA - 1973 23' Palm Beach Stretched to 32' and in residence at the GMC Co-Op in Orlando, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tolls & Axle was Hensley GMC Motorhome Airbag Solution [message #118559 is a reply to message #118395] |
Sat, 12 March 2011 16:54 |
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Good way to use the Q Bag system to lift the tire off the ground and
go past the toll taker, then brop it down.
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 4:04 AM, David L Greenberg
<davegreenberg1@juno.com> wrote:
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> On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:20:17 -0600 Frank Condos <fcondos@sti.net> writes:
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>> the two vs three axle question did become an issue in California
>> back a few years when the State limited 3 axle vehicles to 55 mph.
>> GMCs were able to get an exemption I Â think with the help of Wes
>> Caughlin. Â Today that exemption is still recognized. Â It does not
>> work on the tolls though. Â Most toll stations use wheel counters.
>> The toll takers have to reconcile to the wheel count. Â It's not
>> worth the hassle to wait for the CHP office and have him call his
>> supervisor to research the finding.
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>> Just what I think I know
>> Frank Condos
>> Ahwahnee, CA
>> 73 Glacier under construction
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> I recall the time Dallas Jensen (google 'dallas jensen +me and my
> shadow') or http://www.bdub.net/GMCLinks.html  went to battle with the
> Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel Authority, or the like, and won. But as
> Frank states above, the toll takers aren't motivated to check the
> instructions. Dallas made large sized copies of a GMC and had them posted
> at each toll booth. I suspect  those have become dog-eared, lost, etc.
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> David Lee Greenberg
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tolls & Axle was Hensley GMC Motorhome Airbag Solution [message #118598 is a reply to message #118556] |
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| Rodney Hamilton wrote on Sat, 12 March 2011 14:53 |
If only wheels of an axel on the ground count, then a quadra-bag system designed to temporarily lift a wheel off the ground when pulling up to a toll both would really be a cost saver and make the system even more appealing ...
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With our "backwards" shock application, an "off the shelf airshock" would lift the wheel. That and a few air solenoids... hummmm...
You would only need to have the wheel(s) off the ground for a short time.
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