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Any tricks for checking tranny oil? [message #59509] Fri, 09 October 2009 08:44 Go to next message
RF_Burns is currently offline  RF_Burns   Canada
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I've always found that checking the transmission oil was an exercise in frustration. Warm everything up, find a level spot... pull out the dip stick, clean, re-insert and pull out again...
Ok.. were exactly is the oil level, there is oil on the stick but that is about the only thing I can be sure of. Its always been a very hard stick to read..

Does anyone have a trick to get a clear reading?

I understand about removing the modulator, but thats not an easy method either.


Bruce Hislop
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Re: [GMCnet] Any tricks for checking tranny oil? [message #59511 is a reply to message #59509] Fri, 09 October 2009 09:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jim White[1] is currently offline  Jim White[1]   United States
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Bruce-
General rule is when cold, it should show full at the "ADD" mark or 1/8"
to 3/8" below.
This has worked for me during my vast experience of one year.
HTH-
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Bruce Hislop wrote:
> I've always found that checking the transmission oil was an exercise in frustration. Warm everything up, find a level spot... pull out the dip stick, clean, re-insert and pull out again...
> Ok.. were exactly is the oil level, there is oil on the stick but that is about the only thing I can be sure of. Its always been a very hard stick to read..
>
> Does anyone have a trick to get a clear reading?
>
> I understand about removing the modulator, but thats not an easy method either.
>
>
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Re: Any tricks for checking tranny oil? [message #59512 is a reply to message #59509] Fri, 09 October 2009 09:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fred v is currently offline  fred v   United States
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i want to try sand blasting the end of the stick. this should make the oil stick better to it. i too have trouble reading it. the oil on one side is at a different spot than the other side.


Fred V
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Re: Any tricks for checking tranny oil? [message #59513 is a reply to message #59509] Fri, 09 October 2009 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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David,
My issue is there are drops of oil up the dip stick tube from the warm-up and pulling the stick out the first time to clean it. This leaves oil on the stick above the current level and my confusion.

Jim,
Doesn't some oil drain from the converter over time? that would skew the reading depending on how much drained.


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Re: [GMCnet] Any tricks for checking tranny oil? [message #59514 is a reply to message #59509] Fri, 09 October 2009 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Terry Skinner is currently offline  Terry Skinner   United States
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Just a little work to your dip stick will cure all. Drill a small hole
in the dipstick at the low level mark and the full mark. when you
check the level the oil will cover the drilled hole and make it easier
to see.........Terry

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Bruce Hislop <bruce@perthcomm.com> wrote:
>
>
> I've always found that checking the transmission oil was an exercise in frustration.  Warm everything up, find a level spot... pull out the dip stick, clean, re-insert and pull out again...
> Ok.. were exactly is the oil level, there is oil on the stick but that is about the only thing I can be sure of.  Its always been a very hard stick to read..
>
> Does anyone have a trick to get a clear reading?
>
> I understand about removing the modulator, but thats not an easy method either.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Any tricks for checking tranny oil? [message #59518 is a reply to message #59513] Fri, 09 October 2009 09:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You're right, Bruce - that's why you need to check the oil with the engine running - the air centrifuges out of the converter and it fills with oil. The normal rule is that the transmission is supposed to be "hot", but how hot is hot? I would just check it warm and then if there is a problem getting oil pressure on a cold start, add a pint more. Over full is not good.
Gary



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David,
My issue is there are drops of oil up the dip stick tube from the warm-up and pulling the stick out the first time to clean it. This leaves oil on the stick above the current level and my confusion.

Jim,
Doesn't some oil drain from the converter over time? that would skew the reading depending on how much drained.

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Re: Any tricks for checking tranny oil? [message #59530 is a reply to message #59512] Fri, 09 October 2009 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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fred v wrote on Fri, 09 October 2009 09:09

i want to try sand blasting the end of the stick. this should make the oil stick better to it. i too have trouble reading it. the oil on one side is at a different spot than the other side.




I sandblasted and drilled holes in mine. It helps in reading it.



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Hebron, Indiana
Re: Any tricks for checking tranny oil? [message #59537 is a reply to message #59509] Fri, 09 October 2009 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So glad to see I am not the only one with this problem!

Thanks for the tips!


Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
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Re: [GMCnet] Any tricks for checking tranny oil? [message #59538 is a reply to message #59537] Fri, 09 October 2009 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Transmission must be hot if your going to set it at the top mark.
Naturally with the engine running.

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> So glad to see I am not the only one with this problem!
>
> Thanks for the tips!
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Re: [GMCnet] Any tricks for checking tranny oil? [message #59551 is a reply to message #59538] Fri, 09 October 2009 17:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Manny told me to measure the fluid after a drive of more than a few minutes. Let the engine run and open the engine cover. Shut engine off and measure the fluid; I found that very helpful and accurate. I guess it takes a minute or two at least for the converter to drain some fluid.

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Re: [GMCnet] Any tricks for checking tranny oil? [message #59575 is a reply to message #59551] Fri, 09 October 2009 20:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd agree that this seems to be the best way. You run the chance of overfilling if the Converter hasn't had a chance to suck up the juice.

My tranny is about dead. Hoping Manny has one to ship out soon. Weather is getting nice. Maybe I'll invite him out to "help"

ggroth wrote on Fri, 09 October 2009 15:16

Manny told me to measure the fluid after a drive of more than a few minutes. Let the engine run and open the engine cover. Shut engine off and measure the fluid; I found that very helpful and accurate. I guess it takes a minute or two at least for the converter to drain some fluid.



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Re: Any tricks for checking tranny oil? [message #59594 is a reply to message #59509] Fri, 09 October 2009 22:15 Go to previous message
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Chris, When do you think you will replace your tranny? We will be heading to Quartzsite in January. I can come back by and give you a hand if you have not done it by then.
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