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Re: [GMCnet] Can antifreeze/water freeze solid, and do damage at -25 when tested to +5? [message #327637 is a reply to message #327632] Sun, 31 December 2017 22:32 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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You might be confusing the definitions of eutetic point and freezing point. Not many people call it the eutetic point as it is commonly referred to as the freezing point.

Each mixture of ethylene glycol and water would have different points. A 50% /50% would have a -34 F freezing point and that would be the eutetic point of that mixture but a 60% ethylene glycol
Freezes at -49 F and a 70%
Freezes at around -60 F or so. It is difficult to measure the freezing point at 70% as it gets slushy.

So your estimate of -32F is close but only for the 50% mix. You can get a lower eutetic (freezing point) if you add more ethylene glycol up to about 70%. Over that and the freezing point goes up.

Emery Stora
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Frederick, CO

> On Dec 31, 2017, at 8:39 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald wrote:
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> IIRC, the 50/50 ethylene glycol/distilled water ratio provides close to the eutectic point. That is the lowest temperature at which any alloy of metal or liquid mixture moves from liquid to solid state. I believe that is very close to -32 degrees F.
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> Daughter near Omaha said they are supposed to get near -24 tonight.
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> I don't know what is done where temps go to -32 and below.
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> BobDunahugh wrote on Sun, 31 December 2017 12:19
>> UPDATE. I went over first to check the level of protection. -10 was the protection level. Plugging in the block heater that had been installed
>> years ago wasn't going to protect the heater core, or rad. So I cleared away the foot of snow so I could drained the radiator. Filled the rad with
>> just antifreeze before starting. Then ran the engine up to operating temps. Thanks for the post. It's probable a little over the 50/50 mix as to
>> antifreeze. If it is. What affect will that have? I always run 50/50 mix in everything. So I just never knew what happened below the protection
>> level. Love this site with it's members. Bob Dunahugh
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> Bob,
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