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| Front brake part #'s [message #354163] |
Sun, 26 April 2020 21:07  |
6cuda6
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Anyone have the NAPA part numbers handy for stock size front brake calipers and rotors? They don't list motorhome brakes anymore  (they are the closest retailer to me)
Rich Mondor,
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| Re: Front brake part #'s [message #354175 is a reply to message #354163] |
Mon, 27 April 2020 09:22  |
kingd
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Rich M, Jim K is correct that for stock calipers the pads are the same aa a Toronado and the rotor
is sort of the same. You will either need to drill the rotor and get it from a GMCMH supplier as the
car rotor is drilled for 5 wheel studs and the motorhome uses 8 wheel studs.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Front brake part #'s [message #354179 is a reply to message #354165] |
Mon, 27 April 2020 10:08 |
jimk
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Oh, You will need to pull the bearings off the hub.
There are some sharp people that can do it without the special tool, but
the reason for the tool is that it must grab the botton of the bearing to
pull off.
Best you call me so I can explain it .
There are lot of other things one need to know , that is why I offer to
assist.
Learned this from older and wiser men bach in 1980.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 8:01 AM Jim Kanomata wrote:
> Not only re drill the holes. but increase the center bore.
> Again you can see that the mfg do not want to inventory slow moving parts.
> We stock them.
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> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 7:22 AM Dave King via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> Rich M, Jim K is correct that for stock calipers the pads are the same aa
>> a Toronado and the rotor
>> is sort of the same. You will either need to drill the rotor and get it
>> from a GMCMH supplier as the
>> car rotor is drilled for 5 wheel studs and the motorhome uses 8 wheel
>> studs.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Front brake part #'s [message #354180 is a reply to message #354175] |
Mon, 27 April 2020 10:01 |
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Not only re drill the holes. but increase the center bore.
Again you can see that the mfg do not want to inventory slow moving parts.
We stock them.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 7:22 AM Dave King via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Rich M, Jim K is correct that for stock calipers the pads are the same aa
> a Toronado and the rotor
> is sort of the same. You will either need to drill the rotor and get it
> from a GMCMH supplier as the
> car rotor is drilled for 5 wheel studs and the motorhome uses 8 wheel
> studs.
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| Re: Front brake part #'s [message #354183 is a reply to message #354163] |
Mon, 27 April 2020 11:25 |
kingd
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Rich M., to take the hub apart requires a specialized tool. I have a brand new Tom Warner bearing tool in Toronto.
I would consider loaning it to you with a significant deposit. I don't think I want to sell it.
It's probably NOT a tool you can get on a tool loan program.
Google "how to remove GMC Motorhome front brake rotors. I'm not sure if the procedure is the same for a
Toronado but it could be.
DAVE KING
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| Re: [GMCnet] Front brake part #'s [message #354186 is a reply to message #354183] |
Mon, 27 April 2020 11:34 |
jimk
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Toronado is slightly different as the rotor is attached to the hub like
regular cars. Been a long time since I did one,
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 9:26 AM Dave King via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Rich M., to take the hub apart requires a specialized tool. I have a brand
> new Tom Warner bearing tool in Toronto.
> I would consider loaning it to you with a significant deposit. I don't
> think I want to sell it.
> It's probably NOT a tool you can get on a tool loan program.
> Google "how to remove GMC Motorhome front brake rotors. I'm not sure if
> the procedure is the same for a
> Toronado but it could be.
>
> DAVE KING
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| Re: [GMCnet] Front brake part #'s [message #354187 is a reply to message #354183] |
Mon, 27 April 2020 12:15 |
Emery Stora
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Dave
I loaned my Warner tool to a GMC owner who was a stranger to me. No deposit. I gave him a demonstration before giving it to him. After repeated requests, It was over 4 months before I got it back. He had incorrectly used the seal setting disc to push out the bearing and bent the rim of the aluminum disc. He had also lost the cap for the end of the threaded rod and ruined the point on the rod
I pointed out the damages to him in an email but there was no offer to replace or repair the parts and I never heard back from him.
I will never loan out that tool again.
Be sure you get a large enough deposit to replace the whole kit just in case you never get it back. Also provide detailed WRITTEN instructions.
Good luck.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Apr 27, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Dave King via Gmclist wrote:
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> Rich M., to take the hub apart requires a specialized tool. I have a brand new Tom Warner bearing tool in Toronto.
> I would consider loaning it to you with a significant deposit. I don't think I want to sell it.
> It's probably NOT a tool you can get on a tool loan program.
> Google "how to remove GMC Motorhome front brake rotors. I'm not sure if the procedure is the same for a
> Toronado but it could be.
>
> DAVE KING
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| Re: [GMCnet] Front brake part #'s [message #354189 is a reply to message #354187] |
Mon, 27 April 2020 12:35 |
James Hupy
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The only way I loan my bearing tools, is if I come with them as part of the
deal. Owner can pull the hubs and clean up all the nasty grease, I use the
tools, reassemble the bearings, and clean the tools, put them in the
carrier and that way, I get the stuff back in usable condition.
It is like the old saying, poor fences make for poor neighbors.
I have been burned too many times loaning my stuff out. Sounds a bit
selfish, I guess, but those are custom made tools, and unique to that
particular task. I am not sure if the set that I have is even made anymore.
It was made by a guy named Toma, if memory serves me correctly. He is long
since departed.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020, 10:16 AM Emery Stora via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Dave
> I loaned my Warner tool to a GMC owner who was a stranger to me. No
> deposit. I gave him a demonstration before giving it to him. After
> repeated requests, It was over 4 months before I got it back. He had
> incorrectly used the seal setting disc to push out the bearing and bent the
> rim of the aluminum disc. He had also lost the cap for the end of the
> threaded rod and ruined the point on the rod
> I pointed out the damages to him in an email but there was no offer to
> replace or repair the parts and I never heard back from him.
>
> I will never loan out that tool again.
> Be sure you get a large enough deposit to replace the whole kit just in
> case you never get it back. Also provide detailed WRITTEN instructions.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
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>> On Apr 27, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Dave King via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> Rich M., to take the hub apart requires a specialized tool. I have a
> brand new Tom Warner bearing tool in Toronto.
>> I would consider loaning it to you with a significant deposit. I don't
> think I want to sell it.
>> It's probably NOT a tool you can get on a tool loan program.
>> Google "how to remove GMC Motorhome front brake rotors. I'm not sure if
> the procedure is the same for a
>> Toronado but it could be.
>>
>> DAVE KING
>> --
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>> lurker, wannabe
>> Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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| Re: [GMCnet] Front brake part #'s [message #354193 is a reply to message #354189] |
Mon, 27 April 2020 16:03 |
jimk
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We learned the hard way also, so we require a deposit. charge $350 deposit
on their card first.
When they ask , why so much I explain.
I have lost over 2,000 with tools loaning it to Friends, so now EVERYONE
get a deposit.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:30 AM James Hupy via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> The only way I loan my bearing tools, is if I come with them as part of the
> deal. Owner can pull the hubs and clean up all the nasty grease, I use the
> tools, reassemble the bearings, and clean the tools, put them in the
> carrier and that way, I get the stuff back in usable condition.
> It is like the old saying, poor fences make for poor neighbors.
> I have been burned too many times loaning my stuff out. Sounds a bit
> selfish, I guess, but those are custom made tools, and unique to that
> particular task. I am not sure if the set that I have is even made anymore.
> It was made by a guy named Toma, if memory serves me correctly. He is long
> since departed.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
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> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020, 10:16 AM Emery Stora via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> Dave
>> I loaned my Warner tool to a GMC owner who was a stranger to me. No
>> deposit. I gave him a demonstration before giving it to him. After
>> repeated requests, It was over 4 months before I got it back. He had
>> incorrectly used the seal setting disc to push out the bearing and bent
> the
>> rim of the aluminum disc. He had also lost the cap for the end of the
>> threaded rod and ruined the point on the rod
>> I pointed out the damages to him in an email but there was no offer to
>> replace or repair the parts and I never heard back from him.
>>
>> I will never loan out that tool again.
>> Be sure you get a large enough deposit to replace the whole kit just in
>> case you never get it back. Also provide detailed WRITTEN instructions.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick, CO
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>>> On Apr 27, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Dave King via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>>> Rich M., to take the hub apart requires a specialized tool. I have a
>> brand new Tom Warner bearing tool in Toronto.
>>> I would consider loaning it to you with a significant deposit. I don't
>> think I want to sell it.
>>> It's probably NOT a tool you can get on a tool loan program.
>>> Google "how to remove GMC Motorhome front brake rotors. I'm not sure if
>> the procedure is the same for a
>>> Toronado but it could be.
>>>
>>> DAVE KING
>>> --
>>> DAVE KING
>>> lurker, wannabe
>>> Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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| Re: Front brake part #'s [message #354195 is a reply to message #354163] |
Mon, 27 April 2020 17:19 |
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Rich, see if you can find a video on the web as the front hub assembly
On a Gmcmh is most likely something you have never seen before. I think it is unique
To the GMC motoRhome
DAVE KING
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| Re: Front brake part #'s [message #354196 is a reply to message #354195] |
Mon, 27 April 2020 17:43 |
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I've actually read alot on how to do it and also have read the service manual. It's not much different that any other pressed on bearing with the exception of the seal design. Having worked for a GM dealership early on in my career and then Honda plus others, including a vintage vehicle restoration shop i can assure you i've done something very similar before.
NOTE: All 1990's Honda Accords had the rotors behind the hub....to say i have pulled a few hubs is an understatement and i'd be willing to bet no one has ever seen the size of slide hammer we needed to use.....lol.
BTW...the tool is just a basically the same version of the bearing puller we used to pull the pinion bearings off any GM differentials at GM.
kingd wrote on Mon, 27 April 2020 18:19Rich, see if you can find a video on the web as the front hub assembly
On a Gmcmh is most likely something you have never seen before. I think it is unique
To the GMC motoRhome
Rich Mondor,
Brockville, ON
77 Hughes 2600
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| Re: Front brake part #'s [message #354198 is a reply to message #354163] |
Mon, 27 April 2020 17:46 |
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I may even replace the bearings as well....whats another few dollars when your in that deep already.
Rich Mondor,
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| Re: Front brake part #'s [message #354212 is a reply to message #354163] |
Tue, 28 April 2020 07:42 |
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It's a shame that a few GMCers piss in the creek we all swim in. However, requiring a deposit is a necessity to protect a valuable asset. Those who make their living with hand tools and assemblies as a rule never lend them. I understand this - a day late coming home might well mean missing a paying job. Unless you're local (or a friend of many years) I don't lend out my scope or meters or soldering/crimping tools. And I'm retired anyway. Which means I now got to check on a loaner which was passed with permission of the owner to another GMCer to make sure it made it home.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Front brake part #'s [message #354214 is a reply to message #354212] |
Tue, 28 April 2020 08:52 |
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We have had people get ill or pass away and never get the tool back.
I have a coach where the customer owe $7,000 and passed away.
Rather have the cash then to wait for month to sell.
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 5:42 AM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
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> It's a shame that a few GMCers piss in the creek we all swim in. However,
> requiring a deposit is a necessity to protect a valuable asset. Those who
> make their living with hand tools and assemblies as a rule never lend
> them. I understand this - a day late coming home might well mean missing a
> paying job. Unless you're local (or a friend of many years) I don't lend
> out my scope or meters or soldering/crimping tools. And I'm retired anyway.
> Which means I now got to check on a loaner which was passed with
> permission of the owner to another GMCer to make sure it made it home.
>
> --johnny
> --
> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell
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| Re: Front brake part #'s [message #354216 is a reply to message #354212] |
Tue, 28 April 2020 11:34 |
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Yup that was my policy as well and still is BUT if someone is willing to lend me a very rare or expensive tool i will treat it like gold as anyone who has worked with tools alot knows....."if its gonna break, its gonna break when you borrow it"....kinda like snowmobiles, motorcycles, boats etc...
Hell if the tool was still available and realistically price i'd buy it myself to keep in the coach....just in case.
Johnny Bridges wrote on Tue, 28 April 2020 08:42It's a shame that a few GMCers piss in the creek we all swim in. However, requiring a deposit is a necessity to protect a valuable asset. Those who make their living with hand tools and assemblies as a rule never lend them. I understand this - a day late coming home might well mean missing a paying job. Unless you're local (or a friend of many years) I don't lend out my scope or meters or soldering/crimping tools. And I'm retired anyway. Which means I now got to check on a loaner which was passed with permission of the owner to another GMCer to make sure it made it home.
--johnny
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| Re: [GMCnet] Front brake part #'s [message #354220 is a reply to message #354216] |
Tue, 28 April 2020 13:41 |
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I have a personal policy on borrowing tools. If I can’t afford or justify buying the tool myself, I can’t afford to borrow one either.
I’ve been caught in the past where I borrowed tools that were in a “well-used” condition. Upon use, these same tools would occasionally fail or become further damaged. Even though the tool owner was advised of tool condition prior to use, I’ve always returned borrowed tools in equal or better condition than I recieved them. This has occasionally resulted in the purchase of 2 new tools, one to replace the broken tool, and one for myself.
A point often overlooked is what it costs to have someone else do a job requiring special tools. It often costs more than the price of the tool alone. In my case, skills are not often a limiting factor, only tool availability, so purchasing the tool still saves me $$, and I have the satisfaction of doing the job myself.
Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'
> On Apr 28, 2020, at 12:35 PM, 6cuda6--- via Gmclist wrote:
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> Yup that was my policy as well and still is BUT if someone is willing to lend me a very rare or expensive tool i will treat it like gold as anyone who
> has worked with tools alot knows....."if its gonna break, its gonna break when you borrow it"....kinda like snowmobiles, motorcycles, boats etc...
>
> Hell if the tool was still available and realistically price i'd buy it myself to keep in the coach....just in case.
>
> Johnny Bridges wrote on Tue, 28 April 2020 08:42
>> It's a shame that a few GMCers piss in the creek we all swim in. However, requiring a deposit is a necessity to protect a valuable asset. Those
>> who make their living with hand tools and assemblies as a rule never lend them. I understand this - a day late coming home might well mean missing
>> a paying job. Unless you're local (or a friend of many years) I don't lend out my scope or meters or soldering/crimping tools. And I'm retired
>> anyway. Which means I now got to check on a loaner which was passed with permission of the owner to another GMCer to make sure it made it home.
>>
>> --johnny
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