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exhaust header & EFI [message #344079] Sun, 09 June 2019 11:14 Go to next message
jfkarls is currently offline  jfkarls   United States
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I've read a lot of posts regarding fumes inside cabin and it appears that two changes can help: 1) Headers and, 2) EFI system to help burn fuel more efficiently. I do smell like exhaust & gas when I get out of cabin so I know it's running very rich. OK my questions for you professionals are this: 1) what is the best set of headers to buy & should one buy the whole pipe and muffler package? seems kind of expensive, can a local guy do it cheaper? and 2) Whats the best EFI system to buy? Thanks for all your help guys - JFK
Re: exhaust header & EFI [message #344083 is a reply to message #344079] Sun, 09 June 2019 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you don't hear an exhaust leak up front, you probably don't have one.
Your carb may need a simple choke clean/ adjustment and idle mixture adjustment. Only a few minutes job and about $1 in chemicals.


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Re: exhaust header & EFI [message #344087 is a reply to message #344079] Sun, 09 June 2019 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Uh Jody, where are ya and who are ya? Smile For a package system, the Atomic MSD seems to do well. You might look at the Holley Sniper. It's a new product but it has Holley behind it so I'd expect excellent tech support and a good product. FiTech has one out which has had some early hiccups, I expect they're sorted out by now. If you're a tinkerer, and you want to go the whole gallon instead of a bolt on, speak with Jim Kanomata at Applied GMC about a system which uses GM parts and is highly configurable. It isn't 'plug n play' but there are many GMCers who have it, and like it. There are several gurus who can help you get it going properly and tune it to your coach and driving style. It controls timing as well as fuel, and thereby gives you 10% or so increased mileage. Remember, ten percent is probably less than 1 MPG on these coaches. I think Howell Industries makes it, but ask Jimmy the K.

--johnny


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Re: exhaust header & EFI [message #344088 is a reply to message #344079] Sun, 09 June 2019 14:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And, much of the Howell system can be sourced off certain GMC products down at your friendly Men's Mall (junkyard) if you're tool handy and cheap. Applied will sell you pretty much anything from the complete system down to individual pieces. The major selling point is, pretty much all the pieces can be bought across the counter at Advanced or O'Riellys since there are some several million GMC products out there using it. It comes down to how much assembly are you comfortable with.

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: exhaust header & EFI [message #344089 is a reply to message #344088] Sun, 09 June 2019 15:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jfkarls is currently offline  jfkarls   United States
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THANKS GUYS - this site is outstanding - I am really happy to have found you guys. I joined a gmc Facebook group and they seem to be almost hostile. I posted basically these same questions and a couple of guys practically called me an idiot, Yikes - I like it here WAY better - thanks again guys - oh Sorry I'm in Racine Wisconsin, I have to improve my profile with more info- cheers

Joe & Valerie Karls 1976 Eleganza II, & 1976 Palm Beach - Also own 1967 Lincoln Continental Convertible,
Re: [GMCnet] exhaust header & EFI [message #344092 is a reply to message #344088] Sun, 09 June 2019 15:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We have been assisting people on how to have a true 100% up to date EFI,
not just a glorified squirt gun system.
The Howell based system utilizing the EBL Flash drive just require little
time to hook up sensors. Out performs the others and give better mileage as
the ignition timing control is what the others cannot duplicate for the GMC
MH.

On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 1:22 PM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> And, much of the Howell system can be sourced off certain GMC products
> down at your friendly Men's Mall (junkyard) if you're tool handy and cheap.
> Applied will sell you pretty much anything from the complete system down
> to individual pieces. The major selling point is, pretty much all the
> pieces
> can be bought across the counter at Advanced or O'Riellys since there are
> some several million GMC products out there using it. It comes down to how
> much assembly are you comfortable with.
>
> --johnny
> --
> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell
>
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Re: [GMCnet] exhaust header & EFI [message #344095 is a reply to message #344092] Sun, 09 June 2019 16:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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$2100 YIKES

Joe & Valerie Karls 1976 Eleganza II, & 1976 Palm Beach - Also own 1967 Lincoln Continental Convertible,
Re: exhaust header & EFI [message #344098 is a reply to message #344079] Sun, 09 June 2019 17:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And you can do the package systems for half that. You will get what you pay for. You can cut that 2100 substantially by sourcing used parts. For 2100, you get a working system and Applied support which is second to none.
If you bought the GMC to save money on upkeep, you made a poor choice Smile RVs take a bit to keep them going properly. I'm easing up on 20 large in my coach plus another 10 in sweat equity. They're 30 grand, either all at once in cash or piecemeal and valuing your time.
You pays your money and you takes your choice.

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: exhaust header & EFI [message #344160 is a reply to message #344098] Wed, 12 June 2019 10:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for your note Johnny - I used to own a big boat ha ha I know about money pits. No, I went into this fully expecting to spend a considerable amount Smile thanks again for the note

Joe & Valerie Karls 1976 Eleganza II, & 1976 Palm Beach - Also own 1967 Lincoln Continental Convertible,
Re: exhaust header & EFI [message #344187 is a reply to message #344079] Thu, 13 June 2019 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Boat = hole in the water into which you pour money. GMC = the land version which has more fun and utility, but still ain't free.

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: exhaust header & EFI [message #344188 is a reply to message #344187] Thu, 13 June 2019 15:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Johnny Bridges wrote on Thu, 13 June 2019 12:58
Boat = hole in the water into which you pour money. GMC = the land version which has more fun and utility, but still ain't free.

--johnny
But I have never had a reaching spinnaker or gotten into a tacking dual with my GMC.......
Matt


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Re: exhaust header & EFI [message #344238 is a reply to message #344188] Sun, 16 June 2019 11:53 Go to previous message
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Finally got under my unit - fumes are a result of pipe not going all the way back to bumper & the long pipe is split most of its length - always feels good knowing what the fix is!

Joe & Valerie Karls 1976 Eleganza II, & 1976 Palm Beach - Also own 1967 Lincoln Continental Convertible,
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