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| Winch [message #326371] |
Sun, 26 November 2017 17:15  |
Chris Tyler
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One of the drawbacks to the GMC seems to be traction in slippery conditions. Going in, I would have thought it to be better with front wheel drive and such.
Living in FL, I dont have to worry about snow or ice or steep grades- just mud, sugar sand, and maybe the occasional wet boat ramp.
Just upgraded to a 9K winch for my car trailer. I'm fabricating a mounts that will work on several vehicles including my Tacoma, GFs Powerstroke dually, and the Tracker Toad [via the towbar mount] as well as one for a class 3 reciever hitch.
Anyone ever been in a situation they needed o winch out of with the GMC? Where is a good pulling point?
Thoughts were if I had the 4x4 tracker I could use the winch on that to pull the coach if needed or use it on the rear receiver hitch. The winch is a heavy beast and I don't want to lug it everywhere, just when going off ooad camping or boating
Having learned the utility of a front mounted reciever hitch for moving trailers on a couple of trucks before I was looking at fabricating one for the GMC as well. First problem is that I dont have a stock front bumper, rather a custom fiverglass one. Second, looking underneath I dont see any substantial place it could be mounted short of extensive reinforcement. Next thought was a hook mount should it be nesseary to winch it out or onto a trailer [knock on wood] but again, nothing looks all that substantial.
76 Glenbrook
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| Re: Winch [message #326372 is a reply to message #326371] |
Sun, 26 November 2017 17:25  |
kerry pinkerton
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The Burskin Kingsley I had came with a front receiver hitch.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] Winch [message #326373 is a reply to message #326371] |
Sun, 26 November 2017 17:29 |
Ken Henderson
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Chris,
The few times I've had traction problems with the GMC, the CRV has been
hooked up, so SHE got into it, and pushed the GMC with that AWD toy. It's
amazing how well that works, as long as SHE does try to steer. Once, SHE
even pushed me 5 miles to a gas station, up-hills and down-. SHE HATES it,
but will do it in an "emergency".
Ken H.
On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Chris Tyler
wrote:
> One of the drawbacks to the GMC seems to be traction in slippery
> conditions. Going in, I would have thought it to be better with front wheel
> drive and
> such.
> Living in FL, I dont have to worry about snow or ice or steep grades- just
> mud, sugar sand, and maybe the occasional wet boat ramp.
>
> Just upgraded to a 9K winch for my car trailer. I'm fabricating a mounts
> that will work on several vehicles including my Tacoma, GFs Powerstroke
> dually, and the Tracker Toad [via the towbar mount] as well as one for a
> class 3 reciever hitch.
>
> Anyone ever been in a situation they needed o winch out of with the GMC?
> Where is a good pulling point?
>
> Thoughts were if I had the 4x4 tracker I could use the winch on that to
> pull the coach if needed or use it on the rear receiver hitch. The winch is
> a
> heavy beast and I don't want to lug it everywhere, just when going off
> ooad camping or boating
>
> Having learned the utility of a front mounted reciever hitch for moving
> trailers on a couple of trucks before I was looking at fabricating one for
> the
> GMC as well. First problem is that I dont have a stock front bumper,
> rather a custom fiverglass one. Second, looking underneath I dont see any
> substantial place it could be mounted short of extensive reinforcement.
> Next thought was a hook mount should it be nesseary to winch it out or onto
> a
> trailer [knock on wood] but again, nothing looks all that substantial.
> --
>
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| Re: Winch [message #326391 is a reply to message #326380] |
Mon, 27 November 2017 05:51 |
Chris Tyler
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Matt Colie wrote on Sun, 26 November 2017 18:49Chris,
When I got my coach, it already had a pair of forged recovery/towing hooks mounted to the front frame rails. These were sort of a surprise and not something I might have expected. But, as I dug into the coaches paperwork and history, I found it went to Mexico often. The roads (I an told) are even worse than those in Michigan. This could also explain the strike damage to the transmission pan and both fuel tanks.
I have yet to make any use of these and very much hope to never.
Matt
Was thinking it would be better to have 2 points than one. At what point were they attached?
A couple of welded in forged D hooks like I use on the car trailer could work
76 Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] Winch [message #326394 is a reply to message #326389] |
Mon, 27 November 2017 06:31 |
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USAussie
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Chris,
I suggest you look at the front crossmember that Larry's hitch is attached to, I'm sure it's fine to launch a boat, however, there
is no way it is strong enough to hook a winch to that you can pull the GMC with.
To pull the GMC the hitch needs to be attached to the main frame members.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Tyler
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 5:47 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Winch
Exactly what Im looking towards. Did you fabricate this or use an existing hitch?
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| Re: [GMCnet] Winch [message #326407 is a reply to message #326399] |
Mon, 27 November 2017 16:59 |
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USAussie
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Les,
When I first read your email this morning I said to myself "only an Idiot would try and pull a GMC by the ladder, it's bloody
aluminum!"
I just re-read it and I'm the idiot! The word "frame" didn't register this morning!
DOUH!
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Les Burt
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 9:21 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Winch
If you are stuck bad enough that you can't extract your coach with a tug from another vehicle, then you need to be extremely careful
how and where you start pulling. The ladder frame wasn't designed to endure heavy pulls from one corner.
Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Winch [message #326413 is a reply to message #326407] |
Mon, 27 November 2017 19:58 |
GMC.LES
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Rob,
I just had a good chuckle.
I could/should have worded my message a bit differently, which is a common fault of mine. What I think and what I write don't always match.
"Ladder frame" can be interpreted in several ways.
I was obviously trying to refer to the vehicle frame structure (a ladder frame design) which is not tolerant of heavy pulling forces from one corner. One might pull the frame out of square if not cautious.
Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'
> On Nov 27, 2017, at 5:59 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
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> Les,
>
> When I first read your email this morning I said to myself "only an Idiot would try and pull a GMC by the ladder, it's bloody
> aluminum!"
>
> I just re-read it and I'm the idiot! The word "frame" didn't register this morning!
>
> DOUH!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Les Burt
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 9:21 AM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Winch
>
> If you are stuck bad enough that you can't extract your coach with a tug from another vehicle, then you need to be extremely careful
> how and where you start pulling. The ladder frame wasn't designed to endure heavy pulls from one corner.
>
> Les Burt
> Montreal
> '75 Eleganza 26'
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Winch [message #326414 is a reply to message #326413] |
Mon, 27 November 2017 20:20 |
Carl S.
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If you look at the extreme upper ends of this photo., you can see where I mounted a pair of recovery hooks (one black & one chrome - I got them second hand):
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/timing-chain-2fradiator-project-05-2f09/p34493-timing-chain-2fradiator-project-05-2f09.html
Here's a little bit of a close up of one of them:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/timing-chain-2fradiator-project-05-2f09/p34552-timing-chain-2fradiator.html
It might be possible to fabricate a winch mounting plate that would attach at the same place on the bottom, with another mounting point at or near the top of the frame to provide stability to the mount and better load distribution.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Winch [message #326417 is a reply to message #326413] |
Mon, 27 November 2017 20:39 |
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USAussie
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Les,
There was nothing wrong with the way you worded your message, there was a problem with the way I READ it!
Glad you had a chuckle, that was the intent of my reply, if a person can't laugh at themselves they have a problem!
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Les Burt
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 7:58 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Winch
Rob,
I just had a good chuckle.
I could/should have worded my message a bit differently, which is a common fault of mine. What I think and what I write don't always
match.
"Ladder frame" can be interpreted in several ways.
I was obviously trying to refer to the vehicle frame structure (a ladder frame design) which is not tolerant of heavy pulling forces
from one corner. One might pull the frame out of square if not cautious.
Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'
> On Nov 27, 2017, at 5:59 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
>
> Les,
>
> When I first read your email this morning I said to myself "only an Idiot would try and pull a GMC by the ladder, it's bloody
> aluminum!"
>
> I just re-read it and I'm the idiot! The word "frame" didn't register this morning!
>
> DOUH!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Les Burt
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 9:21 AM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Winch
>
> If you are stuck bad enough that you can't extract your coach with a tug from another vehicle, then you need to be extremely
careful
> how and where you start pulling. The ladder frame wasn't designed to endure heavy pulls from one corner.
>
> Les Burt
> Montreal
> '75 Eleganza 26'
>
>
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'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Winch [message #326434 is a reply to message #326372] |
Tue, 28 November 2017 10:09 |
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USAussie
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G'day,
As the current owner of that GMC I can tell you that the front receiver hitch is welded to the front crossmember that has the large
holes in it. I would NOT try and pull the Kingsley by that receiver as that crossmember is NOT strong enough for that or to jack the
front end up.
What I did recently to jack up the front end is to cut two pieces of 2 X 4 hardwood and jammed them in on either side of the cross
bar that the receiver is mounted to and the main frame members. I put the 20 ton air over hydraulic jack under the receiver cross
bar and up she went, no problem.
I intend to weld some steel vertical supports to the main frame rails to replace the 2 x 4's.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Kerry Pinkerton
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 5:26 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Winch
The Burskin Kingsley I had came with a front receiver hitch.
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Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Still have the first a 76 that will be rebodied into an art deco car hauler.
http://www.bdub.net/pinkerton/
'03 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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