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[GMCnet] Smoke Detectors and CO2 Alarm placement [message #324003] Mon, 18 September 2017 19:51 Go to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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Netters
For years my motto was "Safety Last", however as I get older I've now
decided that a 100th birthday party may be in order, so I may start looking
after some basic safety concerns.
I have a smoke detector and a CO2 alarm that require mounting in the GMC I
am told by my Missus. My question is WHERE should they be placed/mounted ??

Thank you for all suggestions...and keep August of 2048 free for the party.
I'll keep you informed as the years pass!

Mike in NS



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Re: [GMCnet] Smoke Detectors and CO2 Alarm placement [message #324008 is a reply to message #324003] Mon, 18 September 2017 21:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jerry Sitzlar is currently offline  Jerry Sitzlar   United States
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I have a fire/co2 monitor mounted on the ceiling in the hallway, and a lone co2 monitor in the rear down low near the generator compartment.

Jerry


Jerry Sitzlar..... 77 Eleganza II, Twin bed, dry bath...... Lenoir City, TN (near Knoxville)
Re: [GMCnet] Smoke Detectors and CO2 Alarm placement [message #324011 is a reply to message #324008] Tue, 19 September 2017 06:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Jerry

The generator...I had forgotten about that and was thinking furnace/fridge.
Thanks

Mike in NS

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Jerry Sitzlar via Gmclist <
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> I have a fire/co2 monitor mounted on the ceiling in the hallway, and a
> lone co2 monitor in the rear down low near the generator compartment.
>
> Jerry
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> Jerry Sitzlar.....
> 77 Eleganza II, Twin bed, dry bath......
> Lenoir City, TN
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Re: [GMCnet] Smoke Detectors and CO2 Alarm placement [message #324012 is a reply to message #324003] Tue, 19 September 2017 06:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike,

Don't just buy and install any detectors. Most are intended for brick
and mortar homes, not rated for RVs. There is a big difference. Go to
MAC THE FIRE GUY's website for examples of those rated for RVs and where to
install them.

See you in 2048. Wink

jim galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
Lake Mary, FL
Re: [GMCnet] Smoke Detectors and CO2 Alarm placement [message #324013 is a reply to message #324003] Tue, 19 September 2017 07:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DetroitDan is currently offline  DetroitDan   United States
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Smoke detectors are mounted at the highest "trap" points for rising smoke.

CO detectors can be mounted near CO producing appliances. CO density is very close to air, but since it is usually warmer than the air when produced, a high trap point should be good for CO detectors too.

LP is heavier than air. So, LP detectors shouild be mounted low and near LP appliances.

At least this is what the 'net says.



Dan Wallace
Detroit Metro
1974 Canyon Lands 260
Headers, 3.55, 16"
Floor plan 26-9
Honda 6010
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Re: [GMCnet] Smoke Detectors and CO2 Alarm placement [message #324014 is a reply to message #324011] Tue, 19 September 2017 07:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
scott cowden is currently offline  scott cowden   United States
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Michael!

I thought that a fellow who had managed live such a long, long time would instinctively know where to put his smoke alarms! :-)

I recommend a combination of three alarms to be installed in an RV. These alarms are smoke, carbon monoxide, and LP gas.

I have my CO and LP detector mounted to the side of the galley. This alarm is hardwired 12 V and has run off the coach battery.

I use a battery-powered smoke alarm that is mounted in the centre of the ceiling in the rear of the coach just where it opens up to the rear bed or dinette depending on your floor plan. This keeps it in close proximity to where are you are likely sleeping, and the furthest convenient spot away from the galley to prevent a bit of smoke or steam from setting off the alarm when you're cooking. This alarm needs to be mounted more than 6 inches away from any of the walls or cabinetry, as this can also affect its ability to sense smoke.

As an additional thought: It is important to remember that smoke and carbon monoxide alarms have a defined of service life.

If your current alarm is more than 10 years old, it is most definitely time for a change. The buzzer may still sound, but the actual sensor has lost about 30% of its capabilities at this point and that number grows greatly over the next couple of years so that by 13 or 14 years old there's actually a fairly remote chance that it will alarm properly at all.

Look after yourself Mike. Daily doses of alcohol as a disinfectant will only carry you so far! :-)

Scott Cowden
Fire Chief (ret)
'74 x-Glacier
Severn ON
Canada


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> On Sep 19, 2017, at 7:12 AM, Kingsley Coach wrote:
>
> Thanks Jerry
>
> The generator...I had forgotten about that and was thinking furnace/fridge.
> Thanks
>
> Mike in NS
>
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Jerry Sitzlar via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> I have a fire/co2 monitor mounted on the ceiling in the hallway, and a
>> lone co2 monitor in the rear down low near the generator compartment.
>>
>> Jerry
>> --
>> Jerry Sitzlar.....
>> 77 Eleganza II, Twin bed, dry bath......
>> Lenoir City, TN
>>
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> Michael Beaton
> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
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[GMCnet] CO Monitors (WAS: Smoke Detectors and CO2 Alarm placement) [message #324032 is a reply to message #324011] Tue, 19 September 2017 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Folks, the BAD stuff is CO (Carbon MONoxide). CO2 is carbon DIoxide, used in fire extinguishers and also sold as dry ice!


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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Smoke Detectors and CO2 Alarm placement

Thanks Jerry

The generator...I had forgotten about that and was thinking furnace/fridge.
Thanks

Mike in NS

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Jerry Sitzlar via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> I have a fire/co2 monitor mounted on the ceiling in the hallway, and a
> lone co2 monitor in the rear down low near the generator compartment.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Sitzlar.....
> 77 Eleganza II, Twin bed, dry bath......
> Lenoir City, TN
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1977 Eleganza II 26-3
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Re: [GMCnet] CO Monitors (WAS: Smoke Detectors and CO2 Alarm placement) [message #324038 is a reply to message #324032] Tue, 19 September 2017 18:24 Go to previous message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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Right you are...
MAJOR difference...

Mike in NS

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 4:03 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald
wrote:

> Folks, the BAD stuff is CO (Carbon MONoxide). CO2 is carbon DIoxide, used
> in fire extinguishers and also sold as dry ice!
>
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald
> Amateur Radio K2GKK
> Since 30 November '53
> USAF and FAA, Retired
> Member GMCMI & Classics
> Oklahoma City, OK
> "The Money Pit"
> TZE166V101966
> '76 ex-Palm Beach
> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Kingsley
> Coach
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 06:11
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Smoke Detectors and CO2 Alarm placement
>
> Thanks Jerry
>
> The generator...I had forgotten about that and was thinking furnace/fridge.
> Thanks
>
> Mike in NS
>
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Jerry Sitzlar via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> I have a fire/co2 monitor mounted on the ceiling in the hallway, and a
>> lone co2 monitor in the rear down low near the generator compartment.
>>
>> Jerry
>> --
>> Jerry Sitzlar.....
>> 77 Eleganza II, Twin bed, dry bath......
>> Lenoir City, TN
> ___________________________________________-
> Michael Beaton
> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> Antigonish, NS
>
> Life is too short to hold a grudge; slash some tires and call it even !
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1977 Eleganza II 26-3
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