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| Re: [GMCnet] This thing was near my house today [message #319471 is a reply to message #319468] |
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Ken Henderson
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Tracking the winds aloft associated with the big storm in the S., huh?
Ken H.
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Ken Burton wrote:
> My Ham Radio APRS station (called an igate or Internet Gateway) picked it
> up today and sent the tracking information on to the Internet.
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> I traced it back and it took off from Kankakee, Illinois and landed near
> Kouts, Indiana which is about 40 or 50 miles away. It reached a maximum
> reported altitude of over 71,000 feet.
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> https://aprs.fi/#!mt=roadmap&z=10&call=a%2FKC9LHW-11&
> timerange=43200&tail=43200
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> It turns out it is somehow connected with the Adler Planetarium, in
> Chicago and they use Ham Radio APRS to track it.
>
> www.adlerplanetarium.org/education/far-horizons/
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| Re: [GMCnet] This thing was near my house today [message #319491 is a reply to message #319471] |
Fri, 23 June 2017 07:46 |
Ken Burton
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Ken Henderson wrote on Thu, 22 June 2017 20:12Tracking the winds aloft associated with the big storm in the S., huh?
Ken H.
I did some more checking and they periodically launch these. This one had two transmitters and two call signs on it. One belongs to the Adler Planetarium and the other belongs to a PhD at the University of Chicago. They launch these things and at about 70,000 feet or so explode the balloon so it comes down again. Then they run out and retrieve it. Had I noticed it sooner, I would have run over to the landing / recovery site to find out what they are doing. I sent a note to the Phd. at the University of Chicago with a bunch of questions.
Winds aloft all right. That is a heck of a lot higher than either I have ever been.
I wonder if an SR-71 can go that high.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] This thing was near my house today [message #319493 is a reply to message #319491] |
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Ken Burton wrote on Fri, 23 June 2017 08:46Ken Henderson wrote on Thu, 22 June 2017 20:12Tracking the winds aloft associated with the big storm in the S., huh?
Ken H.
I did some more checking and they periodically launch these. This one had two transmitters and two call signs on it. One belongs to the Adler Planetarium and the other belongs to a PhD at the University of Chicago. They launch these things and at about 70,000 feet or so explode the balloon so it comes down again. Then they run out and retrieve it. Had I noticed it sooner, I would have run over to the landing / recovery site to find out what they are doing. I sent a note to the Phd. at the University of Chicago with a bunch of questions.
Winds aloft all right. That is a heck of a lot higher than either I have ever been.
I wonder if an SR-71 can go that high.
Ken,
We weren't supposed to know this, but SR-71s could cruise at 90. That is why the crew wore space suits.
Concords transatlantic cruise altitude was about 60K. In US control, they had to come down to 43 because that is the limit of survivability on pure O2 in the case of lost cabin pressure.
During a "Cadet Familiarization" ride (Read the kid gets to ride in the back while they try to scare the stuff out of him), we got an aged out F4 up to 70K, there was this minor problem. There is no air for the engines (110% spool speed a Zip for EPR (thust) and control surfaces to grab on to. That was 40+ years ago and I have no idea what they are doing now.
Matt
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| Re: This thing was near my house today [message #319496 is a reply to message #319468] |
Fri, 23 June 2017 09:52 |
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Ken, I suspect the number of people who know the REAL capabilities of the
SR 71 is VERY small. One of them was at the annual airshow in Toronto many years
ago. Strange colored engine exhaust and all.
DAVE KING
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| Re: [GMCnet] This thing was near my house today [message #319499 is a reply to message #319491] |
Fri, 23 June 2017 10:48 |
Ken Henderson
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Yep, ceiling for the SR71 is supposedly 85,000' but some say it can reach
100,000'.
I've never flown but a few feet above 51,000 (F101B). We weren't supposed
to be there since we didnt have pressure suits, but we HAD to try it. :-)
In the mid-60's we were aerial recovering, all over the western hemisphere,
from Alaska to Panama, instrumentation packages that the AEC had dropped
from balloons at over 115,000'.
Ken H.
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 8:46 AM, Ken Burton wrote:
> Ken Henderson wrote on Thu, 22 June 2017 20:12
>> Tracking the winds aloft associated with the big storm in the S., huh?
>>
>> Ken H.
>
> I did some more checking and they periodically launch these. This one had
> two transmitters and two call signs on it. One belongs to the Adler
> Planetarium and the other belongs to a PhD at the University of Chicago.
> They launch these things and at about 70,000 feet or so explode the balloon
> so it comes down again. Then they run out and retrieve it. Had I noticed
> it sooner, I would have run over to the landing / recovery site to find out
> what they are doing. I sent a note to the Phd. at the University of
> Chicago with a bunch of questions.
>
> Winds aloft all right. That is a heck of a lot higher than either I have
> ever been.
>
> I wonder is an SR-71 can go that high.
> --
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| Re: [GMCnet] This thing was near my house today [message #319500 is a reply to message #319471] |
Fri, 23 June 2017 12:53 |
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Yes!
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> On Jun 23, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Keith V wrote:
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> 51000' seems high enough. Is the view much different that at 30000'?
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> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Ken Henderson
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 10:48:13 AM
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] This thing was near my house today
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> Yep, ceiling for the SR71 is supposedly 85,000' but some say it can reach
> 100,000'.
>
> I've never flown but a few feet above 51,000 (F101B). We weren't supposed
> to be there since we didnt have pressure suits, but we HAD to try it. :-)
>
> In the mid-60's we were aerial recovering, all over the western hemisphere,
> from Alaska to Panama, instrumentation packages that the AEC had dropped
> from balloons at over 115,000'.
>
> Ken H.
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>> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 8:46 AM, Ken Burton wrote:
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>> Ken Henderson wrote on Thu, 22 June 2017 20:12
>>> Tracking the winds aloft associated with the big storm in the S., huh?
>>>
>>> Ken H.
>>
>> I did some more checking and they periodically launch these. This one had
>> two transmitters and two call signs on it. One belongs to the Adler
>> Planetarium and the other belongs to a PhD at the University of Chicago.
>> They launch these things and at about 70,000 feet or so explode the balloon
>> so it comes down again. Then they run out and retrieve it. Had I noticed
>> it sooner, I would have run over to the landing / recovery site to find out
>> what they are doing. I sent a note to the Phd. at the University of
>> Chicago with a bunch of questions.
>>
>> Winds aloft all right. That is a heck of a lot higher than either I have
>> ever been.
>>
>> I wonder is an SR-71 can go that high.
>> --
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] This thing was near my house today [message #319501 is a reply to message #319499] |
Fri, 23 June 2017 12:49 |
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51000' seems high enough. Is the view much different that at 30000'?
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Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 10:48:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] This thing was near my house today
Yep, ceiling for the SR71 is supposedly 85,000' but some say it can reach
100,000'.
I've never flown but a few feet above 51,000 (F101B). We weren't supposed
to be there since we didnt have pressure suits, but we HAD to try it. :-)
In the mid-60's we were aerial recovering, all over the western hemisphere,
from Alaska to Panama, instrumentation packages that the AEC had dropped
from balloons at over 115,000'.
Ken H.
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 8:46 AM, Ken Burton wrote:
> Ken Henderson wrote on Thu, 22 June 2017 20:12
>> Tracking the winds aloft associated with the big storm in the S., huh?
>>
>> Ken H.
>
> I did some more checking and they periodically launch these. This one had
> two transmitters and two call signs on it. One belongs to the Adler
> Planetarium and the other belongs to a PhD at the University of Chicago.
> They launch these things and at about 70,000 feet or so explode the balloon
> so it comes down again. Then they run out and retrieve it. Had I noticed
> it sooner, I would have run over to the landing / recovery site to find out
> what they are doing. I sent a note to the Phd. at the University of
> Chicago with a bunch of questions.
>
> Winds aloft all right. That is a heck of a lot higher than either I have
> ever been.
>
> I wonder is an SR-71 can go that high.
> --
>
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| Re: This thing was near my house today [message #319512 is a reply to message #319468] |
Fri, 23 June 2017 17:51 |
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The str-71 dash 4 manual was on the net. Impressive. Back in the early 70s, there was a guy attending Staff and Command School at Maxwell who had commanded SR-71s in I believe Turkey - someplace far away anyway. He was very close mouthed - wouldn't say much about them but would tell you, after you fly one you pretty much sneer at everything else. He was a fairly young man, and a full bull Colonel at the time. He used to fly out of the Wetumpka airport.
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| Re: This thing was near my house today [message #319517 is a reply to message #319468] |
Fri, 23 June 2017 21:42 |
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The magazine Nuts 'n Volts regularly has articles about "near space" balloon flights usually carried out by high school classes or college classes. Its pretty neat the stuff they do. I remember a recent article where they focused a camera on a large bag of potato chips which burst somewhere in around 60,000ft.
They track elevation, GPS, temperature, light spectrum amoungst other cool things.
GMC content, Potato chips go great with GMC'ing.
Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
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My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
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| Re: [GMCnet] This thing was near my house today [message #319522 is a reply to message #319517] |
Fri, 23 June 2017 23:58 |
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My local ham radio club has flown balloons with transmitter payloads, and
if we only get to 70,000 feet we are kinda disappointed. We've been as high
as 110,000 feet before the balloon burst. The balloon bursts all by
itself--the skin gets cold and brittle, and the little bit of helium we put
in it eventually expands too much.
Chasing down the payload is a challenge.
It's been four or five years since we have flown a balloon, come tothink of
it.
Rick "speaking of ham radio--using the coach for Field Day this weekend"
Denney
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 10:43 PM Bruce Hislop wrote:
> The magazine Nuts 'n Volts regularly has articles about "near space"
> balloon flights usually carried out by high school classes or college
> classes.
> Its pretty neat the stuff they do. I remember a recent article where they
> focused a camera on a large bag of potato chips which burst somewhere in
> around 60,000ft.
>
> They track elevation, GPS, temperature, light spectrum amoungst other cool
> things.
>
> GMC content, Potato chips go great with GMC'ing.
>
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> ON Canada
> 77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.
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> My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
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| Re: [GMCnet] This thing was near my house today [message #319524 is a reply to message #319522] |
Sat, 24 June 2017 01:04 |
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Richard Denney wrote on Fri, 23 June 2017 23:58My local ham radio club has flown balloons with transmitter payloads, and
if we only get to 70,000 feet we are kinda disappointed. We've been as high
as 110,000 feet before the balloon burst. The balloon bursts all by
itself--the skin gets cold and brittle, and the little bit of helium we put
in it eventually expands too much.
Chasing down the payload is a challenge.
It's been four or five years since we have flown a balloon, come to think of
it.
Rick "speaking of ham radio--using the coach for Field Day this weekend"
Denney
Talk about chasing this thing down, It looks like they were worried about finding this one too. For a while I could not figure out why there were two different call signs reporting their position. Now I realize that they had two independent trackers installed in it in case one quit.
Heather and I are spending Field Day installing an intake manifold gasket in Laurie's Jimmy. It is not a fun job. Everything has to come off of the top and front of the engine to get to it.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] This thing was near my house today [message #319548 is a reply to message #319524] |
Sun, 25 June 2017 09:40 |
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Other groups are using Mylar balloons. They are much stronger and typically do not pop. They reach the jet stream, around 37000 feet, and will travel for long distances. Lighter payloads being the trade off.
GMC's make excellent Field Day operations. 6 kw powers lots of radio sets. A/C makes all the difference here in the Deep South. 89 degrees in the shade at our Field Day site.
Tom, MS II
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| Re: [GMCnet] This thing was near my house today [message #319557 is a reply to message #319548] |
Sun, 25 June 2017 17:31 |
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Ham radio is where the Generac falls down--the dedicated inverter sprays RF
from DC to daylight. But a Honda 2KW portable works great, and will run the
whole event with the auxiliary fuel tanks we use.
It was supposed to rain all day Friday, and we baked. I'm the color of a
freshly peeled strawberry. I parked the coach pointed North, so the awning
would be deployed on the leeward side. I also stood my awning legs
vertical, Henderson-style, tied down to screw anchors. That managed the
stiff breeze we had at times.
The coach ran great.
Rick "crispy fried" Denney
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 10:41 AM Thomas Phipps wrote:
> Other groups are using Mylar balloons. They are much stronger and
> typically do not pop. They reach the jet stream, around 37000 feet, and
> will travel
> for long distances. Lighter payloads being the trade off.
> GMC's make excellent Field Day operations. 6 kw powers lots of radio sets.
> A/C makes all the difference here in the Deep South. 89 degrees in the
> shade at our Field Day site.
> Tom, MS II
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| Re: This thing was near my house today [message #319637 is a reply to message #319468] |
Mon, 26 June 2017 19:49 |
Ken Burton
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I just found another one. My station gated one of it's packets today. The station is KF5KMP-8. It looks like he has sent up 7 other of these in the past.
I can not tell where it started from because I can not go back in history that far. The first record I can see is in the Northwest Territories (Canada) a couple of days ago. It is traveling at 30 to 35 mph at 51,500 to 51,900 feet and has been up for days. It has been through Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, and it now in Ontario almost to the Quebec border as of 7PM CDT.
The call sign is registered to some guy from Texas.
https://aprs.fi/#!mt=roadmap&z=11&call=a%2FKF5KMP-8&timerange=86400&tail=86400
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: This thing was near my house today [message #321491 is a reply to message #319637] |
Tue, 01 August 2017 13:34 |
Ken Burton
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I have another balloon (KF5KMP-8) that I have been watching for over a month. It is on it's 3rd trip around the world but disappeared 10 days ago. It was a couple of hundred miles east of Novosibirsk, Russia, and a couple hundred mines north of the western Mongolian border. Novosibirsk was the last ground station to report it. It was only traveling 9 mph at 52,000 feet.
After being missing for 10 days I'm wondering if Putin or Kim Jung Un shot it down.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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