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Dead on the side of the road [message #289253] Fri, 23 October 2015 19:08 Go to next message
thorndike is currently offline  thorndike   United States
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Good evening all,

I am currently sitting on the side of Rt 70w in Missouri just past the 740 and rt 70 interchange. I probably couldn't have chosen a more precarious place to lose poweras I am about 2 feet off of the highway.

I will be reaching out to the blacklist shortly to see if there is anyone nearby.

I had some quirky electrical problems on my drive today that manifested this way; This morning, after a flawless day of driving the day before, I had no battery power when I tried to start the coach. When I pressed the aux battery switch on the console, it started right up. Then during my drive today, I could use the cruise control, but when ever I used the turn signal, or beeped the horn it cut off. I was going to ask board for suggestions tonight when I got to my hotel room, but it doesn't look like I am going to make it to a hotel

At the moment, I am inches off of rt 70 with battery power, but can not start the engine. It turns over but never catches. I am wondering if my fuel pump died, or if the electrical issue has caused it to lose connection. I have headlights, and flashers at least so hopefully people wont hit me.

If you have any thoughts, I can be reached at 571 235 3564

Thanks,

Bob


Robert Peesel 1976 Royale 26' Side Dry Bath Conifer, Colorado
Re: [GMCnet] Dead on the side of the road [message #289256 is a reply to message #289253] Fri, 23 October 2015 19:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sgltrac is currently offline  sgltrac   United States
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Alternator or voltage ref?

Sully
77 royale
Seattle

On Friday, October 23, 2015, Robert Peesel wrote:

> Good evening all,
>
> I am currently sitting on the side of Rt 70w in Missouri just past the 740
> and rt 70 interchange. I probably couldn't have chosen a more precarious
> place to lose poweras I am about 2 feet off of the highway.
>
> I will be reaching out to the blacklist shortly to see if there is anyone
> nearby.
>
> I had some quirky electrical problems on my drive today that manifested
> this way; This morning, after a flawless day of driving the day before, I
> had
> no battery power when I tried to start the coach. When I pressed the aux
> battery switch on the console, it started right up. Then during my drive
> today, I could use the cruise control, but when ever I used the turn
> signal, or beeped the horn it cut off. I was going to ask board for
> suggestions
> tonight when I got to my hotel room, but it doesn't look like I am going
> to make it to a hotel
>
> At the moment, I am inches off of rt 70 with battery power, but can not
> start the engine. It turns over but never catches. I am wondering if my
> fuel
> pump died, or if the electrical issue has caused it to lose connection. I
> have headlights, and flashers at least so hopefully people wont hit me.
>
> If you have any thoughts, I can be reached at 571 235 3564
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
> --
> Robert Peesel
>
> 1976 Royale 26'
>
> Side Dry Bath
>
> Morrison, Colorado
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Dead on the side of the road [message #289257 is a reply to message #289256] Fri, 23 October 2015 19:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thorndike is currently offline  thorndike   United States
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during the last two days the voltage gauge on the dash was constant at 14 v.

Robert Peesel 1976 Royale 26' Side Dry Bath Conifer, Colorado
Re: Dead on the side of the road [message #289258 is a reply to message #289253] Fri, 23 October 2015 19:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thorndike is currently offline  thorndike   United States
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Well, it appears that there is no one nearby on the black list.

I will give coachnet a call, but am not sure where to have them take me. Any thoughts?

Bob


Robert Peesel 1976 Royale 26' Side Dry Bath Conifer, Colorado
Re: Dead on the side of the road [message #289259 is a reply to message #289253] Fri, 23 October 2015 19:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert, do you have a working generator? Your problem may be nothing more than
a engine battery that died. It happened to me once in SC on I-95. Try this:
Unhook the positive cable from the engine battery and tape up the end. Now hit the boost
and see if the house battery will kick her off. If not, start the generator and try
to charge the house battery for a while. Then try starting again after charging for say
an hour. If your alternator is at fault and the generator works you can motor down the road
with the generator doing the work replacing the alternator.

jim galbavy
'73 x -CL ANNIE
Lake Mary, FL
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Re: [GMCnet] Dead on the side of the road [message #289260 is a reply to message #289253] Fri, 23 October 2015 19:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Randy VanWinkle is at Battlefield Mo. He is on the blacklist and a huge
help on most things GMC. Don't know how far that is from you.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or.
On Oct 23, 2015 5:09 PM, "Robert Peesel" wrote:

> Good evening all,
>
> I am currently sitting on the side of Rt 70w in Missouri just past the 740
> and rt 70 interchange. I probably couldn't have chosen a more precarious
> place to lose poweras I am about 2 feet off of the highway.
>
> I will be reaching out to the blacklist shortly to see if there is anyone
> nearby.
>
> I had some quirky electrical problems on my drive today that manifested
> this way; This morning, after a flawless day of driving the day before, I
> had
> no battery power when I tried to start the coach. When I pressed the aux
> battery switch on the console, it started right up. Then during my drive
> today, I could use the cruise control, but when ever I used the turn
> signal, or beeped the horn it cut off. I was going to ask board for
> suggestions
> tonight when I got to my hotel room, but it doesn't look like I am going
> to make it to a hotel
>
> At the moment, I am inches off of rt 70 with battery power, but can not
> start the engine. It turns over but never catches. I am wondering if my
> fuel
> pump died, or if the electrical issue has caused it to lose connection. I
> have headlights, and flashers at least so hopefully people wont hit me.
>
> If you have any thoughts, I can be reached at 571 235 3564
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
> --
> Robert Peesel
>
> 1976 Royale 26'
>
> Side Dry Bath
>
> Morrison, Colorado
>
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Re: Dead on the side of the road [message #289262 is a reply to message #289258] Fri, 23 October 2015 19:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert,

Find an auto / electrical shop to be towed to.

jim galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
Lake Mary, FL
Re: [GMCnet] Dead on the side of the road [message #289263 is a reply to message #289253] Fri, 23 October 2015 19:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob,

First off, minimize all electrical loads except for those hazard warning
flashers.

If you have plenty of gas in the main tank, start the generator.

Open the engine hatch and remove the air cleaner. Shine a light into the
forward carb throats while pulling the throttle cable at the left of the
carb. If gas squirts into the carb throats, your problem is probably
electrical.

Rather than waste time and electrons on another step, get back to us with
that result.

Ken H.


On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 8:08 PM, Robert Peesel wrote:

> Good evening all,


>
>
I am currently sitting on the side of Rt 70w in Missouri just past the 740
> and rt 70 interchange. I probably couldn't have chosen a more
> ​​
> precarious
> ​ ​
> place to lose power
> ​ ​
> as I am about 2 feet off of the highway.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Dead on the side of the road [message #289264 is a reply to message #289253] Fri, 23 October 2015 19:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Bob,

Tell us more clearly where you are: I presume by "Rt 70w" you mean
"Interstate 70W". Since I470 is in Kansas, I presume you mean either MO 70
or a county road -- neither of which I can find in Google Maps. Give us an
exit number or at least the last town you passed.

Ken H.
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Re: Dead on the side of the road [message #289265 is a reply to message #289253] Fri, 23 October 2015 20:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thorndike is currently offline  thorndike   United States
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Well, there is an awful lot of gas squirting into the carb! So that might eliminate the fuel filter....

Robert Peesel 1976 Royale 26' Side Dry Bath Conifer, Colorado
Re: [GMCnet] Dead on the side of the road [message #289266 is a reply to message #289264] Fri, 23 October 2015 20:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thorndike is currently offline  thorndike   United States
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Ken,

I am about 2 feet off of route 70 W outside of Columbia Mo. I am a mile or two west of the rt 740 interchange.


Robert Peesel 1976 Royale 26' Side Dry Bath Conifer, Colorado
Re: Dead on the side of the road [message #289267 is a reply to message #289253] Fri, 23 October 2015 20:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Paul Leavitt is in Warrenton Missouri -- may not be too far away if you are in east St Louis area.
He does not appear on the Blacklist but someone may have his phone number.

Dennis


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Re: Dead on the side of the road [message #289268 is a reply to message #289253] Fri, 23 October 2015 20:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thorndike is currently offline  thorndike   United States
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Here is another data point.

After looking for gas at the carb, I turned it over and it ran for several seconds before dying. I was then unable to start it again.

Bob


Robert Peesel 1976 Royale 26' Side Dry Bath Conifer, Colorado
Re: [GMCnet] Dead on the side of the road [message #289269 is a reply to message #289264] Fri, 23 October 2015 20:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob said 70 and 740. I'd guess he's some distance west of St Louis, MO

Mac in OKC, OK

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On Oct 23, 2015, at 19:49, Ken Henderson wrote:

Bob,

Tell us more clearly where you are: I presume by "Rt 70w" you mean
"Interstate 70W". Since I470 is in Kansas, I presume you mean either MO 70
or a county road -- neither of which I can find in Google Maps. Give us an
exit number or at least the last town you passed.

Ken H.
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Re: Dead on the side of the road [message #289270 is a reply to message #289253] Fri, 23 October 2015 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok. I have called Coach-net and they are coming to get me. Will be at least an hour or so. They will tow me to a hotel and then work with me in the morning to get me to a repair shop. So while I am stranded at the moment, it won't be for too much longer.

I had just filled up with gas not too long ago, so the generator is running to keep my laptop and phone charged.

I would like to keep diagnosing the problem so I can make intelligent decisions in the morning. Jim G. said this same sort of thing happened to him and that it was a fuel filter issue. Those are easy and I will get a few tomorrow just in case. I assume though, that if it were a filter issue, I wouldn't have that gas in the carb.

I guess it could be an ignition/electrical issue. If so, what should I be looking for?...and buying?

Bob


Robert Peesel 1976 Royale 26' Side Dry Bath Conifer, Colorado
Re: Dead on the side of the road [message #289271 is a reply to message #289253] Fri, 23 October 2015 20:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Symptoms point to low voltage getting to the coil.
Re: [GMCnet] Dead on the side of the road [message #289272 is a reply to message #289264] Fri, 23 October 2015 20:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob said 70 and 740. I'd guess he's some distance west of St Louis, MO

Mac in OKC, OK

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On Oct 23, 2015, at 19:49, Ken Henderson wrote:

Bob,

Tell us more clearly where you are: I presume by "Rt 70w" you mean
"Interstate 70W". Since I470 is in Kansas, I presume you mean either MO 70
or a county road -- neither of which I can find in Google Maps. Give us an
exit number or at least the last town you passed.

Ken H.
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Re: [GMCnet] Dead on the side of the road [message #289273 is a reply to message #289272] Fri, 23 October 2015 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob's near Columbia, MO.
Interchange is I-70 and MO Rte 740.

MAC IN OKC, OK

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On Oct 23, 2015, at 20:20, D C _Mac_ Macdonald wrote:

Bob said 70 and 740. I'd guess he's some distance west of St Louis, MO

Mac in OKC, OK

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On Oct 23, 2015, at 19:49, Ken Henderson wrote:

Bob,

Tell us more clearly where you are: I presume by "Rt 70w" you mean
"Interstate 70W". Since I470 is in Kansas, I presume you mean either MO 70
or a county road -- neither of which I can find in Google Maps. Give us an
exit number or at least the last town you passed.

Ken H.
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Re: Dead on the side of the road [message #289274 is a reply to message #289271] Fri, 23 October 2015 20:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Since most of my tools are already in Colorado, I don't have much to use with me, so I won't be able to use my volt meter to track things down. Would a bad ignition module act this way?

A Hamilto wrote on Fri, 23 October 2015 19:29
Symptoms point to low voltage getting to the coil.



Robert Peesel 1976 Royale 26' Side Dry Bath Conifer, Colorado
Re: Dead on the side of the road [message #289275 is a reply to message #289253] Fri, 23 October 2015 20:39 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Oh, and in case anyone is worrying, I DO have a can of coke with me (warm) and some REALLY good Crispy Coconut Rolls that I picked up on a whim at Costco, so I won't starve. FYI, these coconut rolls are really good.

Robert Peesel 1976 Royale 26' Side Dry Bath Conifer, Colorado
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