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| [GMCnet] Practical Considerations / Propane Tank [message #274704] |
Wed, 01 April 2015 08:46  |
Dolph Santorine
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I have the propane tank out of the coach, and I’ve been in touch with Manchester Tank, who tells me that replacement valves are no longer available.
From a practical standpoint, should I just sandblast, paint and put it back in? It seems to work fine.
Replacement valve sets for current tanks are about $65, and I thought it might be a good upgrade for safety.
Thoughts?
Dolph
DE N8JPC
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Practical Considerations / Propane Tank [message #274709 is a reply to message #274704] |
Wed, 01 April 2015 09:44  |
emerystora
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What do you mean “for safety”? Is your current valve leaking?
If you are thinking of putting on an OPD (overfill prevention device) valve, forget it. The tank is not designed for that.
I know that you can get new valves. I assume that Manchester just doesn’t stock them anymore. You might check with a good propane distributor.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Apr 1, 2015, at 7:46 AM, Dolph Santorine wrote:
>
> I have the propane tank out of the coach, and I’ve been in touch with Manchester Tank, who tells me that replacement valves are no longer available.
>
> From a practical standpoint, should I just sandblast, paint and put it back in? It seems to work fine.
>
> Replacement valve sets for current tanks are about $65, and I thought it might be a good upgrade for safety.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Dolph
>
> DE N8JPC
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> Wheeling, West Virginia
>
> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
> 1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
>
> “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Practical Considerations / Propane Tank [message #274711 is a reply to message #274709] |
Wed, 01 April 2015 09:54 |
Dolph Santorine
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It’s not leaking. It’s a 40 year old valve of fairly conventional design and that concerns me.
Dolph
DE N8JPC
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
> On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Emery Stora wrote:
>
> What do you mean “for safety”? Is your current valve leaking?
>
> If you are thinking of putting on an OPD (overfill prevention device) valve, forget it. The tank is not designed for that.
>
> I know that you can get new valves. I assume that Manchester just doesn’t stock them anymore. You might check with a good propane distributor.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
>
>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 7:46 AM, Dolph Santorine wrote:
>>
>> I have the propane tank out of the coach, and I’ve been in touch with Manchester Tank, who tells me that replacement valves are no longer available.
>>
>> From a practical standpoint, should I just sandblast, paint and put it back in? It seems to work fine.
>>
>> Replacement valve sets for current tanks are about $65, and I thought it might be a good upgrade for safety.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Dolph
>>
>> DE N8JPC
>>
>> Wheeling, West Virginia
>>
>> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
>> 1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
>>
>> “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Practical Considerations / Propane Tank [message #274712 is a reply to message #274709] |
Wed, 01 April 2015 09:55 |
James Hupy
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Replacing a known to be good old part with an offshore produced new
untested one is a sure fire recipe for disaster, or at the least, trouble
that you did not have before you "upgraded" to the new component. This
applies to water pumps, fan clutches, alternators, starters, and so on as
well. If it ain't broke, don't be fixin' on it.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or.
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Apr 1, 2015 7:45 AM, "Emery Stora" wrote:
> What do you mean “for safety”? Is your current valve leaking?
>
> If you are thinking of putting on an OPD (overfill prevention device)
> valve, forget it. The tank is not designed for that.
>
> I know that you can get new valves. I assume that Manchester just doesn’t
> stock them anymore. You might check with a good propane distributor.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
>
>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 7:46 AM, Dolph Santorine
> wrote:
>>
>> I have the propane tank out of the coach, and I’ve been in touch with
> Manchester Tank, who tells me that replacement valves are no longer
> available.
>>
>> From a practical standpoint, should I just sandblast, paint and put it
> back in? It seems to work fine.
>>
>> Replacement valve sets for current tanks are about $65, and I thought it
> might be a good upgrade for safety.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Dolph
>>
>> DE N8JPC
>>
>> Wheeling, West Virginia
>>
>> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
>> 1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission,
> EV-6010
>>
>> “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Practical Considerations / Propane Tank [message #274713 is a reply to message #274711] |
Wed, 01 April 2015 10:07 |
James Hupy
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Would you replace a 40 year old wife or girlfriend just because they are
40? What do you get to replace her? Two 20 year olds? You are likely to
find out that you are not wired for 220. (Grin) Hey Dolph, in all reality,
that valve has probably been used very little during those 40 years. RV
propane tanks don't see the use of a home tank. I would be willing to bet
that it hasn't been used more than 20 or 30 times in that 40 year span. But
what the heck, it's your money, spend it how you want.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Apr 1, 2015 7:55 AM, "Dolph Santorine" wrote:
> It’s not leaking. It’s a 40 year old valve of fairly conventional design
> and that concerns me.
>
>
> Dolph
>
> DE N8JPC
>
> Wheeling, West Virginia
>
> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
> 1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
>
> “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Emery Stora wrote:
>>
>> What do you mean “for safety”? Is your current valve leaking?
>>
>> If you are thinking of putting on an OPD (overfill prevention device)
> valve, forget it. The tank is not designed for that.
>>
>> I know that you can get new valves. I assume that Manchester just
> doesn’t stock them anymore. You might check with a good propane
> distributor.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick, CO
>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 7:46 AM, Dolph Santorine
> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have the propane tank out of the coach, and I’ve been in touch with
> Manchester Tank, who tells me that replacement valves are no longer
> available.
>>>
>>> From a practical standpoint, should I just sandblast, paint and put it
> back in? It seems to work fine.
>>>
>>> Replacement valve sets for current tanks are about $65, and I thought
> it might be a good upgrade for safety.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Dolph
>>>
>>> DE N8JPC
>>>
>>> Wheeling, West Virginia
>>>
>>> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
>>> 1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission,
> EV-6010
>>>
>>> “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Practical Considerations / Propane Tank [message #274715 is a reply to message #274713] |
Wed, 01 April 2015 11:16 |
roy1
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If the tank is empty you might consider replacing the o ring behind the gage and have a look see at the float valve. A propane vender would have the correct o ring. Mine sprung a leak with the tank half full.
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] Practical Considerations / Propane Tank [message #274718 is a reply to message #274713] |
Wed, 01 April 2015 11:59 |
Kingsley Coach
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Wire brush, a little sanding and paint it.
Put it back in....end of story !
Mike in NS
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:07 PM, James Hupy wrote:
> Would you replace a 40 year old wife or girlfriend just because they are
> 40? What do you get to replace her? Two 20 year olds? You are likely to
> find out that you are not wired for 220. (Grin) Hey Dolph, in all reality,
> that valve has probably been used very little during those 40 years. RV
> propane tanks don't see the use of a home tank. I would be willing to bet
> that it hasn't been used more than 20 or 30 times in that 40 year span. But
> what the heck, it's your money, spend it how you want.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
> On Apr 1, 2015 7:55 AM, "Dolph Santorine" wrote:
>
>> It’s not leaking. It’s a 40 year old valve of fairly conventional design
>> and that concerns me.
>>
>>
>> Dolph
>>
>> DE N8JPC
>>
>> Wheeling, West Virginia
>>
>> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
>> 1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission,
> EV-6010
>>
>> “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Emery Stora wrote:
>>>
>>> What do you mean “for safety”? Is your current valve leaking?
>>>
>>> If you are thinking of putting on an OPD (overfill prevention device)
>> valve, forget it. The tank is not designed for that.
>>>
>>> I know that you can get new valves. I assume that Manchester just
>> doesn’t stock them anymore. You might check with a good propane
>> distributor.
>>>
>>> Emery Stora
>>> 77 Kingsley
>>> Frederick, CO
>>>
>>>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 7:46 AM, Dolph Santorine
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have the propane tank out of the coach, and I’ve been in touch with
>> Manchester Tank, who tells me that replacement valves are no longer
>> available.
>>>>
>>>> From a practical standpoint, should I just sandblast, paint and put it
>> back in? It seems to work fine.
>>>>
>>>> Replacement valve sets for current tanks are about $65, and I thought
>> it might be a good upgrade for safety.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Dolph
>>>>
>>>> DE N8JPC
>>>>
>>>> Wheeling, West Virginia
>>>>
>>>> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
>>>> 1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission,
>> EV-6010
>>>>
>>>> “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Practical Considerations / Propane Tank [message #274743 is a reply to message #274704] |
Wed, 01 April 2015 17:15 |
George Beckman
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Dolph Santorine wrote on Wed, 01 April 2015 06:46I have the propane tank out of the coach, and I've been in touch with Manchester Tank, who tells me that replacement valves are no longer available.
From a practical standpoint, should I just sandblast, paint and put it back in? It seems to work fine.
Replacement valve sets for current tanks are about $65, and I thought it might be a good upgrade for safety.
Thoughts?
Dolph
Dolph,
Our original '74 tank got so it leaked when the fill nozzle was attached, even cranked extra tight. I was looking at it and had a new tank fill receiver made for remote filling. The rubber gasket inside was the same. I pulled out the old hard one and slipped the new pliable one in and filling has been fine ever since.
I guess my one worry is that the inside flap valves would begin to leak... that could cause big problems is propane were slipping out. So far all is well, but I think about these things, as you are.
'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George
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| Re: [GMCnet] Practical Considerations / Propane Tank [message #274756 is a reply to message #274704] |
Wed, 01 April 2015 19:51 |
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Matt Colie
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Dolph,
Give Cinnabar a call. A few years ago, they had not problem supplying the valve I needed. It just takes about a 5 foot long wrench to get the old one out.
Matt
Dolph Santorine wrote on Wed, 01 April 2015 09:46I have the propane tank out of the coach, and I've been in touch with Manchester Tank, who tells me that replacement valves are no longer available.
From a practical standpoint, should I just sandblast, paint and put it back in? It seems to work fine.
Replacement valve sets for current tanks are about $65, and I thought it might be a good upgrade for safety.
Thoughts?
Dolph
DE N8JPC
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26' ex-PalmBeach
1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
"The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Practical Considerations / Propane Tank [message #274773 is a reply to message #274704] |
Wed, 01 April 2015 23:36 |
sgltrac
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I just replaced the service valve in recherché due to a leak when in the
open condition. I made a ton of phone calls to rv places, Manchester tank,
suburban propane, etc and was told everything from the tank needed to be re
certified to replaced to the valve was no longer available or that the new
style overfill protection valve would need to be substituted. I finally
found a propane place that had the exact valve in stock and it was $45. I
installed the valve with tape and paste as suggested by the guy who sold me
the valve and it is leak free. I can post the info if anyone needs it but
need to go dig the invoice out of the file in the coach. Lemmeno.
Something I learned in the process. If the tank is vented rapidly to drain
it for service the liquid propane can freeze and give you the impression
that the tank is empty when it is not which could be a major safety
problem. I suggest having a certified propane tech drain the tank or use
the propane up normally prior to removing the valve.
Sully
77 Royale
77 eleganza 2
Seattle
On Wednesday, April 1, 2015, Dolph Santorine wrote:
> I have the propane tank out of the coach, and I’ve been in touch with
> Manchester Tank, who tells me that replacement valves are no longer
> available.
>
> From a practical standpoint, should I just sandblast, paint and put it
> back in? It seems to work fine.
>
> Replacement valve sets for current tanks are about $65, and I thought it
> might be a good upgrade for safety.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Dolph
>
> DE N8JPC
>
> Wheeling, West Virginia
>
> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
> 1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
>
> “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>
>
>
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Practical Considerations / Propane Tank [message #275224 is a reply to message #274711] |
Mon, 06 April 2015 21:21 |
Len Novak
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Just put a new valve in mine, easy to do
Len and Pat Novak
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Dolph Santorine
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 7:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Practical Considerations / Propane Tank
It’s not leaking. It’s a 40 year old valve of fairly conventional design and that concerns me.
Dolph
DE N8JPC
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
> On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Emery Stora wrote:
>
> What do you mean “for safety”? Is your current valve leaking?
>
> If you are thinking of putting on an OPD (overfill prevention device) valve, forget it. The tank is not designed for that.
>
> I know that you can get new valves. I assume that Manchester just doesn’t stock them anymore. You might check with a good propane distributor.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
>
>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 7:46 AM, Dolph Santorine wrote:
>>
>> I have the propane tank out of the coach, and I’ve been in touch with Manchester Tank, who tells me that replacement valves are no longer available.
>>
>> From a practical standpoint, should I just sandblast, paint and put it back in? It seems to work fine.
>>
>> Replacement valve sets for current tanks are about $65, and I thought it might be a good upgrade for safety.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Dolph
>>
>> DE N8JPC
>>
>> Wheeling, West Virginia
>>
>> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
>> 1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
>>
>> “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Practical Considerations / Propane Tank [message #275313 is a reply to message #274711] |
Tue, 07 April 2015 17:41 |
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I am with you Dolph, does anyone have a link to a supplier of the valve, a new direct fit regulator and the hose ?
Dolph Santorine wrote on Wed, 01 April 2015 16:54It's not leaking. It's a 40 year old valve of fairly conventional design and that concerns me.
Dolph
DE N8JPC
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26' ex-PalmBeach
1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
"The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
> On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Emery Stora wrote:
>
> What do you mean "for safety"? Is your current valve leaking?
>
> If you are thinking of putting on an OPD (overfill prevention device) valve, forget it. The tank is not designed for that.
>
> I know that you can get new valves. I assume that Manchester just doesn't stock them anymore. You might check with a good propane distributor.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
>
>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 7:46 AM, Dolph Santorine wrote:
>>
>> I have the propane tank out of the coach, and I've been in touch with Manchester Tank, who tells me that replacement valves are no longer available.
>>
>> From a practical standpoint, should I just sandblast, paint and put it back in? It seems to work fine.
>>
>> Replacement valve sets for current tanks are about $65, and I thought it might be a good upgrade for safety.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Dolph
>>
>> DE N8JPC
>>
>> Wheeling, West Virginia
>>
>> 1977 26' ex-PalmBeach
>> 1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
>>
>> "The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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And sold my 1973 26'-2 # 581 White Canyon lands under the name Dobbelt trøbbel
in Norway
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