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| Re: [GMCnet] I THINK I fixed the bathroom shower diverter [message #203105 is a reply to message #203103] |
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hnielsen2
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Kerry;
Thank You
All is well with my Lord
Howard
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the
average voter
(Winston Churchill)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerry Pinkerton" <Pinkertonk@MCHSI.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 15:39
Subject: [GMCnet] I THINK I fixed the bathroom shower diverter
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> The last time my wife was with me and used the shower, the diverter didn't
> divert very well. About 70% of the water ran into the sink and only a bit
> made it to the shower head.
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> I promised her I'd get this fixed before Bean Station and had planned on
> just biting the bullet and putting in a separate faucet for the shower
> head.
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> AFTER I took the bulkhead down and made a trip to Lowes to get the various
> Tees and Elbows to hook up the new faucet, I decided to make one more go
> at fixing the diverter valve. It has a single slotted screw that holds
> the whole assembly in the spout. The shop manual shows 4 O rings, two
> small and two large. One of the small ones is INSIDE the assembly and the
> knob has to be unscrewed in order to get it apart. It looked OK but I
> replaced it anyway.
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> What I had missed previously is the front O ring on the main body. In the
> shop manual it looks kind of 'fat' but there is no groove for it to sit
> in. Apparently it rides on top of the taper. The first one I tried was
> too small and managed to go up inside the main body. So I tried a larger
> one that just barely will stay on the top of the taper. SUCCESS!
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> Now when the water is running, I pull the knob and with a small SNAP the
> divert closes 100% and the shower starts doing it's thing. I did it about
> 30 times but before I put everything away and back together, I'll do it a
> bunch more. The last thing I want is for it to not work when the wife
> wants it to... 8o 8o :lol:
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> I have one of the big variety pack of O rings I got somewhere. The one on
> the taper isn't right. I need a bit fatter ring but it appears to work
> and I'll look around for the correct size.
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> I can take photos if anyone is interested.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
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> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
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> 77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, also a 76 Eleganza being re-bodied as
> an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] I THINK I fixed the bathroom shower diverter [message #203361 is a reply to message #203343] |
Mon, 01 April 2013 21:15 |
kerry pinkerton
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| hnielsen2 wrote on Mon, 01 April 2013 20:11 |
...Have you tried the O rings from Harbor Freight?
I have a set....
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I had a neighbor who moved a few years ago and gave me a bunch of these 'assortment' boxes. Orings, spring pins, Speedometer gears, a whole bunch of stuff. I expect it's all offshore made and the orings are very likely Chinese made. No reason that they should not work fine however. Next time I'm at HF, I'll look and see if they have any better fits for that fat inside ring.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: I THINK I fixed the bathroom shower diverter [message #203376 is a reply to message #203372] |
Tue, 02 April 2013 06:27 |
kerry pinkerton
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| Ken Burton wrote on Tue, 02 April 2013 00:51 |
Ok I looked at the pictures several times. Are there a total of 5 o-rings or only 4?
Ken B.
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Only four Ken. Two small ones, on the small shaft, one medium one in the groove on the slider, and a FAT one that fits on the small shaft and actually does the seal when you pull the diverter.
I looked at this think for quite a while before I figured out how it worked.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: I THINK I fixed the bathroom shower diverter [message #203460 is a reply to message #203103] |
Wed, 03 April 2013 05:09 |
kerry pinkerton
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As I understand it, the two small O rings and the outside (closest to the knob) O ring just keep the unit sealed from drips. The inside O Ring is the one that does the diverting work.
The outer sleeve is stationary and held in place by the screw on the outside of the snout. It fits in a the bore of the spout and cannot move. There is an inner and outer bore. You can see the outer bore in the photo but the inner did not show up. The inner bore is what the small end of the assembly fits in and it goes to the shower. Under normal operation, the inner shaft is pushed inward and water flows around the small shaft, around the smaller radius in the center, and through two 3/16" holes in the outer sleeve, and into a cavity in the snout that leads to the water nozzle. At the same time, the passage to the shower is closed by the shaft an
In diverter mode, the knob and inner shaft are pulled out and the larger inside O ring (which can be seen in the first photo inside the bore of the snout) seals between the tapered end of the sleeve and the flange of the inner shaft. This seals off any water flowing into the sink. As the knob is pulled out, the inner shaft comes out of the inside bore and water is forced through it to the shower.
I still have the original 'telephone handset' shower head and it works fine. With it shut off and the diverter diverting (knob pulled out) there are absolutely NO leaks or drips from either the shower head or the faucet.
Does this help? If you take your diverter out and look up inside the faucet it will probably make more sense. I'll try and get a better photo that shows the inner and outer bores.
This is the O-Ring assortment I have:
http://www.harborfreight.com/382-piece-o-ring-assortment-67554.html
8 bucks from Horror Freight or probably anywhere that sells cheap import tools and assorted Chinese stuff. While the inside O ring is not the exact one needed, it seems to work fine.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: I THINK I fixed the bathroom shower diverter [message #203461 is a reply to message #203103] |
Wed, 03 April 2013 05:44 |
rcjordan
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For reassembing on o-rings, faucet stems, etc. and greasing threads that are in contact with potable water stop by an old-time pharmacist and see if he has some lanolin. Won't harm rubber or plastic.
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
76 Eleganza
Elizabeth City, NC
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| Re: [GMCnet] I THINK I fixed the bathroom shower diverter [message #203548 is a reply to message #203544] |
Wed, 03 April 2013 15:32 |
kerry pinkerton
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| hnielsen2 wrote on Wed, 03 April 2013 14:46 |
Ours would not come apart....
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I had to put the small end in a vice and grab the knob with large channel locks to break the threads loose. It left a mark or two on the knob but nothing really objectionable.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: I THINK I fixed the bathroom shower diverter [message #203581 is a reply to message #203543] |
Wed, 03 April 2013 21:55 |
Ken Burton
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I did not make it out to my coach today. I'll try to get to it before next Monday. Also I have no water in the coach so I will not be able to test it. I am working on the water tank so I thought I would just replace the o-rings again making sure I get all 4 of them. Then I'll test it after I finished fixing the tank. It is gonna be a while.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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