| Kuuma Hot water heater [message #192194] |
Tue, 04 December 2012 10:11  |
tphipps
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My hot water heater died after working for 2 days in Iowa, at International.
1. Testing the element with a meter, it reads closed circuit. This leads me to believe that the element did not burn out.
2. Testing the thermostat with a meter, (air temperature conditions) it reads a closed circuit, not open. At air temperature, this is what I expect.
3. Testing the high temperature regulator, it reads complete circuit, again at room temperature.
Since both the thermostat and the temperature regulator are each about $30, I would like some opinion without just throwing money at the problem.
Related, when the high temperature regulator fails, does it die? Or, restore to it normal status?
Plenty of 110 to the heater, not a failure of the breaker.
Tom, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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| Re: Kuuma Hot water heater [message #192196 is a reply to message #192194] |
Tue, 04 December 2012 10:21  |
rcjordan
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I play the odds. High limit controls rarely fail. Thermostats fail, but no where near as often as elements. Since elements are the cheapest, I start there without even pulling out the multi-meter. So far, an element has solved the problem every time that I can recall.
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| Re: Kuuma Hot water heater [message #192199 is a reply to message #192198] |
Tue, 04 December 2012 10:40 |
tphipps
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Unfortunately, Kuuma uses a solid state high temperature sensor, sealed unit. Repair by replacing.
Ugly.
Tom, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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| Re: [GMCnet] Kuuma Hot water heater [message #192203 is a reply to message #192196] |
Tue, 04 December 2012 11:24 |
Ray Erspamer
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I would agree on this.
Our hot tub heating element recently failed. It metered fine. Everything in
the manual said the problem was the element so I replaced it, problem solved.
Ray
Ray & Lisa
78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Kuuma Hot water heater
I play the odds. High limit controls rarely fail. Thermostats fail, but no
where near as often as elements. Since elements are the cheapest, I start there
without even pulling out the multi-meter. So far, an element has solved the
problem every time that I can recall.
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| Re: Kuuma Hot water heater [message #192206 is a reply to message #192194] |
Tue, 04 December 2012 12:32 |
roy1
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If you think it is a defective heating element and not a limit stat. With the power turned on measure the voltage across the element. If you read 120 volts and the water isn't heating up the element is bad. If you don't read 120 volts you have other problems like a bad connection ,bad breaker,open limit,thermostat etc.
Roy Keen
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| Re: [GMCnet] Kuuma Hot water heater [message #192221 is a reply to message #192194] |
Tue, 04 December 2012 15:40 |
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Tom,
I did a Google search and found this:
http://www.kuumaproducts.com/6gal.html
This heater looks just like the Atwood EH-6 I removed from Double Trouble and replaced with a Seaward unit.
When you note "Plenty of 110 to the heater, not a failure of the breaker" have you checked for 110 at the heater element? If there's
110 there then despite reading a closed circuit on the element it shot.
If there's no power there you could jumper the thermostat and see if you get power to the element. If not then jumper the high
temperature regulator and see if you get power again.
I wish I was in the USA, I think I have a spare thermostat and high temperature regulator I took out of the Atwood EH-6 when I
replaced it at the COOP. The tank had corroded through and leaked. Come to think of it I think I have an element too!
If you're not in a hurry I will be back to the USA in February and could send you the parts then.
The high temperature regulator on my Atwood has a little red button to reset it. I drilled a hole through the cover that goes over
the electrics so I could reset it without having to take the cover off. See the picture below:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/xantrex-inverter-install/p31262-xantrex-sw-2000-instal.html
If you look in the upper left hand corner of this picture you'll see the wiring schematic for the unit. If you'd like I can send you
the owners manual for an EH-6 Atwood Water Heater.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Phipps
My hot water heater died after working for 2 days in Iowa, at International.
1. Testing the element with a meter, it reads closed circuit. This leads me to believe that the element did not burn out.
2. Testing the thermostat with a meter, (air temperature conditions) it reads a closed circuit, not open. At air temperature, this
is what I expect.
3. Testing the high temperature regulator, it reads complete circuit, again at room temperature.
Since both the thermostat and the temperature regulator are each about $30, I would like some opinion without just throwing money at
the problem.
Related, when the high temperature regulator fails, does it die? Or, restore to it normal status?
Plenty of 110 to the heater, not a failure of the breaker.
Tom, MS II
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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